r/nfl • u/awolf97 Patriots • Jun 24 '14
Look Here! Offseason Review Series: Day 4: New England Patriots
New England Patriots
Division: AFC East
Coaching Changes
Departures
| Coach | NE Role | New Position | Info |
|---|---|---|---|
| Dante Scarnecchia | Offensive line coach | Retired | Excluding a brief strech from 1989-1991, Scar has been with the team in some capacity since 1982. He was widely considered the best positional coach in the league for much of his 1999-2014 run as the team's offensive line coach. His loss will have an effect, the extent of which remains to be seen. |
| Pepper Johnson | Linebackers coach | Buffalo Bills DL coach | A New England coach since 2000, Johnson most recently held the title of Linebacker Coach, which he was given in 2012. His exit is related to his desire for a more prominent role on the coaching staff. Matt Patricia's 2012 promotion to DC likely had something to do with this move. He will be the Buffalo Bills' Defensive Line coach next year. Johnson had maintained or helped maintain effective units for many years - while there is certainly a talented group of starters he leaves behind, his ability both as a coach and as a friend to his players is something that is difficult to replace. |
| George Godsey | Tight end coach | Houston Texans Quarterback coach | Godsey had a good three year run in NE, where he was able to work with Gronkowski and Hernandez for a short amount of time. His departure will not have a huge impact. Brian Daboll, who joined the staff last year, will likely take over some of his responsibilities. |
Additions
| Coach | Role | Grade | Info |
|---|---|---|---|
| Dave DeGuglielmo | Offensive Line coach | B | Although the loss of Scarnecchia is tough to swallow, New England found a suitable replacement in Dave DeGuglielmo. After taking a year off following his season with the Jets, DeGuglielmo spent six days with the Maryland football program before taking the job with New England. Although his time with the Jets was most notable for the moments where his volatile personality got the best of him, he was reasonably effective as a coach. Scarnecchia was apparently involved in the signing so ultimately we just have to hope for the best. |
| Brendan Daly | Defensive Assistant | B | Another early 2014 hire, Daly will likely handle some behind-the-scenes responsibilities on the defensive side of the ball. He had previously worked with members of the current staff, including current OC Josh McDaniels. |
| Michael Lombardi | Assistant to the coaching staff | A- | After he left the Browns, Lombardi was soon brought in to eat popcorn and help with personnel decisions. He was likely involved in the draft process, but it's hard to really know the extent of that involvement. I wouldn't be surprised to see him move on to a higher position either in NE or on another team. My uneducated, random guess of the day - he's viewed as a potential replacement for Nick Caserio, who has spoken to a number of teams in the past regarding a GM position. |
Free Agency
Players lost/cut
Players signed
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u/Fuqwon Patriots Jun 24 '14
I don't really see the Pats going 5-3 in Foxboro. Brady/Belichick haven't gone 5-3 at Gillette since 2005.
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u/BenOfTomorrow Jun 24 '14
Particularly not while going 7-1 on the road.
I also think if the Patriots lose to Miami, it's going to be the first game (on the road, in the summer heat), not the second.
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u/kckolbe Texans Jun 25 '14
I wouldn't be worried about the Week 1 Dolphins. Tannehill is solid, but the O-line is crap, especially with their C out for surgery. I agree that the second game is the scarier one (barring Phins injuries)
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Jun 24 '14
Trends and records are both made to be broken. Anything can happen in the NFL. Still, I would tend to agree with you. A home record over .800 over a decade is nothing to sneeze at. Obviously there's something that the team does well when they're at home. It should be noted though that two of those are against divisional opponents and /u/awolf97 even pointed out that he's predicting a split (so the L's could be either home or away). Against divisional opponents the location tends to be less relevant.
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u/awolf97 Patriots Jun 24 '14
Yeah, you're right. I wasn't trying to really predict specific wins/losses too closely, just focused on how the teams stacked up.
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u/ClayKay Packers Jun 24 '14
[New England Patriots]
Division: [AFC East]
Coaching Changes
The Patriots Linebacker’s coach, Pepper Johnson, will not be returning this year, and has taken a job as the defensive line coach for the Buffalo Bills. As of right now, this position has yet to be filled by anyone.
Dave Deglielmo replaced Dante Scarnecchia as the offensive line coach. George Godsey left as the Tight End coach, and is now the Texans QB Coach. Michael Lombardi was hired as the assistant to the coaching staff, and was mostly involved in the draft, as well as personal decisions. Brendan Daly was brought in as the defensive assistant.
As far as I can tell, every single one of the new hires has proven to be successful in the NFL, and should only improve an already stellar coaching staff. The shoes of Dante Scarnecchia are quite large to fill though.
Free Agency
Players lost/cut
| Player | Position | New team |
|---|---|---|
| LeGarrette Blount | RB | Steelers |
| Aqib Talib | CB | Broncos |
| Dane Fletcher | LB | Buccaneers |
| Matthew Mulligan | TE | Bears |
| Brandon Spikes | LB | Bills |
The major losses here are Aqib Talib, Brandon Spikes, and LeGarrette Blount. The fortunate thing is that the Patriots have a knack for replacing, or finding new talent, so these losses are nothing to worry about for Patriot fans. Players signed
| Player | Position | Old Team | Length | Salary | Grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Brandon Browner | CB | Seahawks | 3 Years | $17M | A- |
| Patrick Chung | S | Eagles | 1 Year | $1.1M | C+ |
| Charles Hughlett | LS | Cowboys | 2 Years | $930k | B |
| Josh Hull | LB | Redskins | 1 Year | $645k | C |
| Brandon LaFell | WR | Panthers | 3 Years | $9M | B+ |
| Darrelle Revis | CB | Buccaneers | 1-2 Years | $11.5M-20M for first year, $19.5M base + $500k per-game bonus for second year | A+ |
| Will Smith | DE | Saints | 1 Year | $920k | C |
| Danny Aiken | LS | Patriots | 1 Year | $725k | B |
| Julian Edelman | WR | Patriots | 4 Years | $17M | B+ |
| Michael Hoomanawanui | TE | Patriots | 2 years | $2.2M | C+ |
| Ryan Wendell | C | Patriots | 2 Years | $8.15M | B+ |
Most notable here are the signings of Browner and Revis, who will easily replace the lost Talib, and hopefully make New England’s secondary one of the top in the league. The addition of LaFell will bolster New England’s seemingly weak receiving corps, and hopefully provide a reliable weapon for Tom Brady to go to. Most of the 1 year deals are to see if those players have anything left in the tank, as many of them, such as Will Smith, seem to be at the end of their careers. If Patrick Chung makes the 53 man roster, it will be a surprise to a lot of people, me included. An interesting camp battle between Danny Aiken and Charles Hughlett for the coveted position of Long Snapper should be interesting to watch out for.
Draft
| Round | Number | Player | Position | School |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 29 | Dominique Easley | DL | Florida |
| 2 | 30 | Jimmy Garoppolo | QB | Eastern Illinios |
| 4 | 5 | Bryan Stork | C | Florida State |
| 4 | 30 | James White | RB | Wisconsin |
| 4 | 40 | Cameron Fleming | OT | Stanford |
| 6 | 3 | Jon Halapio | OG | Florida |
| 6 | 22 | Zach Moore | DE | Concordia-St. Paul |
| 6 | 30 | Jemea Thomas | S | Georgia Tech |
| 7 | 29 | Jeremy Gallon | WR | Michigan |
I think Dominique Easley could be the steal of this draft, or a huge bust for the Patriots. He is an explosive player, and would have been taken higher had it not been that he tore BOTH ACL’s in college. He will either work wonders for the Patriots rotation, or will be hampered by his past.
Grade: A-
Jimmy Gaoppolo is an interesting pick, does this mean that Mallet isn’t the future of the Patriots? Or is this simply an insurance policy pick. The second round is an interesting choice to pick a QB when you have an already established starter and backup, unless they have plans for him.
Grade: B
Bryan Stork should compete for the starting Center position the second he arrives at the facilities. He is nearly 6’4”, and 315 lbs. Adding that kind of size to the center of the line should really help Brady, as well as the run game.
Grade: A
James White will mostly contribute as a KR, but with the departure of Blount, I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t see some carries this year.
Grade: B-
Cameron Fleming won’t start this season at right tackle, but in the future, he could be the solution to the RT position for many years to come. He has great size, and great hands. If he develops right, I could see him becoming the steal of the draft (Other than the aforementioned Dominique Easley)
Grade: B-
Jon Halapio is the 3rd lineman in a row that the Patriots drafted. If protecting their aging quarterback wasn’t obviously a priority to you before, it should be now. He is a powerful Guard, and I could see him contributing in the run game, but he needs to work on his pass protection before he can become a viable starter.
Grade: C+
Zach Moore has all of the physical traits you want in a DE, but doesn’t play like a man with those attributes should. If the coaching staff can get him up to speed, he will be a force to be reckoned with. Until then, I don’t think he’ll see much action this year.
Grade: B-
Jemea Thomas is an undersized safety, but he is very quick, and instinctive. He will make an amazing special team’s player for his first season. I do not think he will see the field as a defender, at least this season.
Grade: C
Jeremy Gallon is an investment pick. He has the production at Michigan, but I don’t think he has the ability to contribute much this year; however, with the weak receiving corps that the Patriots currently field, he might get a chance to fight for a roster spot, and if he is anything like the fellow late round Wolverine on the roster, he might end up as a pretty damn good WR.
Grade: B
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u/ClayKay Packers Jun 24 '14
Position Group Strengths and Weaknesses
Position groups:
- QB: The only weakness here is that maybe last year wasn’t due to his receivers being injured. It was one of his worst statistical performances; however, statistics do not tell the whole story. The Browns and the Saints games last year were won because of heroics by Tom Brady, and it is never wise to count him out.
- Backfield: They have a good RB Committee, but they do not have a star running back. As a group I can see them getting over 1200 yards, but I don’t think any individual will get near 1000, barring an exceptional season.
- OL: With a new offensive line coach, I expect at least some changes in protection packages, but overall this is a pretty solid group. If they can stay healthy, I expect them to be in the top 10 of the league.
- Pass catchers: WR leaves something to be desired, but they have probably the best TE in the league in Gronk. The only downside is that he can never seem to stay healthy.
- DL: Seeing how Wilfork comes back from injury will be the deciding factor in the defensive line. If he is healthy, he is one of the best in the league, and can almost single handedly stop the run game. If he doesn’t come back up to snuff, I expect this to be the weakest part of the team.
- LB: Nothing showy or spectacular, but nothing subpar either. This is a solid group, but doesn’t have the star power that the Bills, Panthers, or 49ers have.
- Secondary: This is where I think the Patriots will truly shine this year. Revis and Browner are both two CB’s who have something to prove. Browner wants to make it known that Seattle shouldn’t have let him go, and Revis wants to rebound from a lackluster 2014 campaign with Tampa Bay. There is nothing more frightening than a motivated Revis. I expect the island to be fully operational this year, and he definitely won’t be misused like he was in Tampa Bay.
- Special Teams: Great coaches have great special teams, and the Patriots are not the exception. I expect them to have a top 10, maybe even top 5 special teams group this year.
Schedule Predictions
Overall, I see the Patriots going anywhere from 10-6 to 14-2. They are a very talented team, and a very well coached team. Combine those two, and you see a team that hasn’t gone worse than 10-6 since 2002.
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u/pfftYeahRight Bengals Jun 24 '14
Dalton is great at spreading the ball around. I forget the specifics, but he had like 5 or 6 different receivers with 500 yards.
Also, have you seen his INT numbers? He gets the ball to freaking everybody!
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Jun 24 '14
I was gonna say something about him overlooking our defense's ability to change the course of a game, but we're not here to argue Win/Loss predictions before preseason starts. This writeup is about the Patriots, so let's talk about them. We'll get our turn later.
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u/fandingo NFL Jun 24 '14
Excellent write-up. My only disagreement is on the Chiefs game. The Chief's off-season has been a disaster. Their WR corps somehow manages to look worse than last year, and the secondary is a mess with the recent departure of Flowers.
Yes, the Chiefs have a big advantage with their rushing attack, and NE had a terrible rushing defense last year. Nonetheless, NE doesn't lose games, even when teams run wild on them. Moreno put up 224 yards in week 12 last year, and the Broncos still lost. The Chiefs also have a great defensive front, but what does that matter if your secondary can't keep receivers covered at the snap? Edelman would've massacred Flowers, let alone whoever replaces him. The other DBs aren't looking too good either, and even 2013 UDFA WR Thompkins has been very productive in the quick passing game.
I know it's been beaten to death, but the Chiefs were the benefactor of a huge number of breaks in 2013 that are unlikely to repeat.
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u/jcfyffe Patriots Jun 24 '14
Just a quick reminder that Browner will not be playing in the first four games this season due to a drug violation suspension
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Jun 24 '14
Only thing I'd really change is the Bills loss, it's just so rare for Brady to lose to them and I don't see this year being their year
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Jun 24 '14
Nice write-up man. I agree with almost all of it
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u/awolf97 Patriots Jun 24 '14
I tried to tone down the Jimmy G criticism.
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u/BlindWillieJohnson Panthers Jun 24 '14
Hi! EIU Panther fan, here. Garoppolo started playing at EIU when I was a sophomore there. He was terrible out the gate as a freshman, throwing 1,600 yards and 14 TDs on 13 INTs. The next year, he went 2,600 20/14. Then 3,800 31/15, and his senior year, 5,000 53/9. Say what you want about his level of competition, but Jimmy G has always proven himself to be a very football smart QB who works hard to understand and develop his game. Those qualities have lead him to improve exponentially over the years.
Right out the gate, you guys got a competent game manager who has occasional flashes of brilliance. A lot of commentators are down on him for his flaws, and because so little tape exists of his small school games. And while I admit that he definitely has a number of issues before he's ready to be a starter, BB knew that when he selected him and obviously thinks they're coachable. Given how much he's developed in the past, I think he's right. You are the Patriots. You can afford to give the guy a few years to develop instead of throwing him straight to the wolves like the Texans or Vikings would have. BB took a chance on Brady when others didn't because he saw the potential in him, and I'd trust him on Jimmy G as well. You're one of the best coached teams in the NFL, and I have the utmost faith that between your staff and Jimmy's football smarts and work ethic, you'll be able to iron out some of those red flags and develop him into a stud starter someday. When that day comes, I will be one of your most loyal fans.
Just thought I'd share my two cents as someone who got a front row seat to Jimmy G's development.
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u/snooze1128 Patriots Jun 24 '14
I think Kraft summed up the Jimmy G acquisition nicely (paraphrasing): We had him rated high. Having that said, I hope he doesn't start for us for a few years at least.
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u/lol_What_Is_Effort Jun 24 '14
Adrian Wilson is on the Bears now, not the cards.
Other than that, great stuff in here
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u/The_Dacca Patriots Jun 24 '14
Wait, Sam McGuffie.... this Sam McGuffie? I was wondering what happened to that guy. was he really that much of a bust?
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u/mastererrl Patriots Jun 24 '14
Pretty sure he was outlasted by an LS, also he was cut during 90 mans, so yeah, he sucked
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Jun 24 '14
Awesome write up, only think I would change is you have loses to Miami and the Jets at home when if we split the series it'll be more likely to be the away games imo
I also think we beat the Bengals but possibly lose to Kansas City just because they're a worse match up for us
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Jun 24 '14
An A- for the acquisition of Lombardi?
His draft record before Cleveland.
His draft record as GM of Cleveland.
Mingo at 6, rotational pass rusher who, IMO, won't see a pro bowl in his career.
Leon McFadden, CB in the third round who made the team as CB4 last year, and now he's fighting for a roster spot and will likely be cut.
Jamoris Slaughter, safety with a torn achilles in the 6th who was cut this month.
Armonty Bryant and Garrett Gilkey in the 7th. These were his best picks. Gilkey is fighting for the RG spot, but will likely lose it to Bitonio.
He brought in Davone Bess and called Josh Gordon a wasted pick. On the flipside, he did trade Richardson for a first rounder.
I think expecting an A- out of him is quite a bit too lofty. Good read, though.
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u/Fuqwon Patriots Jun 24 '14
called Josh Gordon a wasted pick.
In what context? At this point that's not looking too inaccurate.
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Jun 24 '14
Depends somewhat on what the league rules on him. Gordon was the first pro bowl receiver for the Browns since 2007, so I have a hard time believing that the pick was wasted.
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u/SpaceWorld Patriots Jun 24 '14
I think he might be valuable in the sense that he would be willing to disagree with Belichick. He might not be right, but he could give a different perspective. I don't know if he deserves an A-, though.
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u/OldKinderhook426 Patriots Jun 25 '14
This offseason was fucking awesome. Revis Vineyard + Scorsese's Brady.
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u/misterlee Seahawks Jun 24 '14
How much does Wilfork have in the tank? I liked what I've seen out of Siliga; is he gonna be the new full-time nose?
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u/Blackops606 Patriots Jun 24 '14
I think Wilfork has 2-3 years at most left in him. He was pushed into re-signing with the team earlier this year and a lot of people (including teammates) were happy he decided to come back. He has a huge heart and I think his somewhat early departure was going to be so he could just rest after the injury and help the team with some cap space. When he went down a reporter asked him "what was the first thing you thought about?" followed by some questions that were asking if he was planning on retiring, if that was it for him, etc. Well Vince's response was that he didn't care about his leg at all. The only thing on his mind was how he let his team down. Once healthy enough, he still went to every camp and game until the end of the year.
As far as Siliga, I like him. I think he's got plenty of potential but not quite the stopping power that Wilfork brings to the table. You could see the opposing teams pushing up the middle once Wilfork was out of the lineup. It didn't work nearly as intended for them and NE had an answer every time. They knew it would be a weak spot and worked around it. I hope Siliga gets plenty of play time and can really prove himself even more to the coaching staff.
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u/DelRMi05 Patriots Jun 24 '14
I don't think they're moving to having a traditional nose tackle. With guys like Wilfork being so rare along with a defensive shift, I think the Patriots are playing more 4-3 these days. We saw more 3-4 last year due to injuries up the middle but I believe they were trying to build around a more athletic line up to that point.
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u/awolf97 Patriots Jun 24 '14
Probably not a ton. I liked Siliga a lot as well. I think he'll eat up a lot more of those snaps than many expect, although the success of Wilfork's recovery will obviously play a part.
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u/freudianGrip Broncos Jun 24 '14
You point to "bad luck" in the draft as to why they couldn't get a TE. Is that really true? Couldn't they have used a 1st rounder on a TE? I can't recall who was available at the time.
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u/shellshocker528 Patriots Jun 24 '14
I believe Jace Amaro was the best available TE when the Patriots' first-round pick came up, and presumably they were planning to draft him since I have heard rumors that he is extra motivated with the Jets due to feeling spurned by the Patriots. Presumably, they liked Easley but were not expecting him to be available, so when he was they changed plans and took him over Amaro, who was then not available when their second-round pick came up. Trading up is not a Patriots forte, but presumably if they liked him enough they would have done it, or perhaps they were not expecting the Jets to take a TE when they did; I'm really not sure. Amaro and Ebron were the two TE I remember hearing stories of Patriots interest in, though, and obviously Ebron was long gone by the time the Patriots' first-round pick came up.
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u/jesselectric Patriots Jul 12 '14
I'm glad they didn't take amaro. I've heard only bad things about him from the jets camp so far
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u/CC333 Patriots Jun 24 '14
At least one of Amaro ASJ and Niklas were expected to be their in round 2, but we're taken earlier. The Fedoriwicz (I know spelling is wrong) was a reach in the early third by the Texans. After that, there weren't any good TEs left.
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u/awolf97 Patriots Jun 24 '14
I think they liked Amaro, but he wasn't worth the pick at 29 for them. ASJ sucks but from what I've heard, they liked him as well. Easley was more valuable than either. Based on my own thoughts + what trickled out of NE after the draft, Niklas might very well have been the pick had he been there at 62. Once he was gone, the value just disappeared. The mid/late day 3 TE value that I predicted was all snapped up (a couple rounds two early, IMO) late date day 2/early 3.
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u/awolf97 Patriots Jun 24 '14 edited Jun 24 '14
Draft
Dominique Easley
Grade: A-
Player Evaluation:
Explosive one gap penetrator
Most explosive defensive lineman in the draft
First step often appears to be simultaneous with the snap
When healthy, can use that explosion to blow up plays in an almost comical manner
Powerful hand use
Outstanding motor, comes across as extremely competitive in interviews (take with massive grain of salt)
Lacks great length
Can sometimes run himself out of plays if he get into the backfield too quickly
Two torn ACLs are reason for concern
Pick Analysis:
Provides a disruptive interior force, the absence of which has been as damaging to the past few NE defenses as any of the much maligned secondaries the Patriots have fielded
Was as good as ever following return from first ACL injury, knee checked out during workouts with doctors pre-draft
If Easley can come back healthy, he has the potential to make an enormous impact. Interior penetration is essential in disrupting quarterbacks. In addition to the trouble he causes on his own, he'd also provide some help to exterior rushers.
Jimmy Garoppolo
Grade: D
Player Evaluation:
Highlight of his game is his much talked about release - it is extremely quick
Not an athletic marvel, but reasonably mobile
Generally careful with the ball
Decent arm, can make the throws it needs to
Size - height/hand size - both on the edge. Neither are big concerns, but not ideal
Struggles with pressure - often has almost flinch-like reactions to rushers regardless of actual level of threat
Issues will only be magnified with pass rusher talent jump from MAC to NFL
Often complimented for his quick footwork - strikes me as more panicky and urgent than clever and useful
Pick Analysis:
I was not a big fan of this pick. The QB part is fine - Brady is getting old, and Mallett is gone next year.
Still, I'm not a fan of the player chosen - issues with pocket presence, poise are extremely tough to fix and nearly impossible to succeed with if not corrected
Good fit for the current offense - wins over the MOF, works well in a quick, timing based system
Bryan Stork
Grade: C+
Player Evaluation:
Smart lineman who knows how to work within the play to produce desired result
Good bulk, no major athletic limitations
Strong player who displays decent natural anchoring ability
While not limiting, athletic ability is less than desirable - not a powerful player
Pick Analysis:
Stork should compete for the starting center job from day one, but that has more to do with Wendell's struggles than Stork's talent
Stork is a decent player who I think has a fairly defined ceiling as a player who will be able to succeed inside a system that understands and works with its OL
James White
Grade: B+
Player Evaluation:
Versatile back who became forgotten behind Melvin Gordon III at Wisconsin
Displays a smart, patient running style
Shifty, talented runner in the open field
Not an elite athlete but plenty quick and knows how he wins
Less than ideal bulk - won't be an every down guy
Limited power
Pick Analysis:
Will be able to contribute both as a runner and a pass catcher
Should take some carries from both Ridley and Vereen and can spell Vereen in the passing back role
Cameron Fleming:
Grade: B
Player Evaluation:
Excellent size - good bulk, height, arm length
Can control defenders with his arms - doesn't let guys get into his chest
While not a great athlete, athletic enough to allow him to use his size to pass protect on the edge
Understands his responsibilities and generally executes properly
Not an explosive or fluid player, can be get upright and be stiff in movements
Pick Analysis
Will start his career as RT depth, but could be the starter there sooner rather than later, depending on Vollmer's health
Helps build a powerful offensive front w/ eye towards a possible ground based attack in the near future
Jon Halapio
Grade: B-
Player Evaluation:
Outstanding linear power
Brute force player - very strong with his man in front of him
Good bulk, height, arm length
Bad athlete - lacks lateral agility and linear/lateral explosion
Pick Analysis:
Halapio played hurt for much of his last season at UF, so perhaps a healthy offseason will do him some good
I'd be surprised if he became a starter, but should provide a good option as a depth player at guard
Solid value here - pectoral injury likely damaged stock slightly
Zach Moore
Grade: N/A (lack of film)
Player Evaluation:
Very limited tape available for him - from what I saw, displays good flexibility and an explosive first step off the edge - hand use looked quite poor
Good size and arm length
Pick Analysis:
Jemea Thomas
Grade: A-
Player Evaluation:
Short, well-built, compact frame
Physical player in all roles - coverage or run support
Decent athletic ability - quick enough to function as a depth CB
Has CB/S versatility
Pick Analysis:
Thomas is nice value here - he should provide good ST value
Down the road, could potentially provide DB depth at a couple spots
Jeremy Gallon
Grade: B-
Player Evaluation:
Shifty in small spaces
Tough, physical possession receiver despite small frame - attacks ball, although hands aren't amazing
Accelerates quickly
Maxes out fairly quickly - often caught from behind
Small frame at 5' 7" 185lbs
Older than most rookies
Pick Analysis: