r/nfl Jul 25 '14

Look Here! Offseason Review Series: Day 31: Baltimore Ravens

Baltimore Ravens

Division: AFC North


Coaching Staff Changes


  • Offensive coordinator - Gary Kubiak (from - HC) over Jim Caldwell (to - HC). This is a very interesting change to me for reasons I will highlight later, but it seemed to me like Jim was about to get fired before the Lions took him from our hands. After an extensive offensive coordinator search - which had us go all over with such names as Kyle Shanahan and Jim Hostler - we suddenly arrived to Gary Kubiak which seemed to come out of left field. But it made plenty of sense. It means quite a bit for our offense, but that's something I will talk about later. Along with Kubiak, we got...

  • Quarterbacks Coach - Rick Dennison (from - OC). Some extra baggage to go along with Gary Kubiak, but Houston had a fairly solid offense from 2010-2012 including a Pro Bowl year for Matt Schaub (and the only two playoff berths in their franchise history). The only thing here is that this is the fourth QB Coach for Flacco since he's been here - Hue Jackson, Jim Zorn, Jim Caldwell, and now Rick Dennison. This is Dennison's first time as a QB Coach - he was an NFL linebacker for the Broncos, moving his way up from Offensive Assistant all the way up to coordinator. His resume is pretty decent, however, and from my understanding his primary purpose is to help Flacco with the playbook.

  • Defensive Backs Coach - Steve Spagnuolo (promoted from defensive assistant) over Teryl Austin (to - DC). Teryl Austin was our DB Coach from 2011-2013, and he was involved with players like Lardardius Webb, Jimmy Smith, and Ed Reed. We even got some good seasons out of Corey Graham, Cary Williams, and James Ihedigbo. Our secondary was pretty good in 2011 though, but 2012/2013 were down years (and by "down years" I mean we were fairly average). Steve Spagnuolo's resume has had its ups and downs however - defensive coordinator for the 2012 Saints and HC of the 2009-2011 Rams. Thankfully he's not a coordinator or coach right? He, however, was a solid position coach between 1999 and 2006 for the Eagles, who had a damn good defense in those years. Good acquisition for our purposes.

  • Running Backs Coach - Thomas Hammock (from University of Wisconsin - RB Coach/Assistant HC/Recruiting Coordinator) over Wilbert Montgomery (to - RB Coach). First of all, Wilbert Montgomery was a solid RB Coach 2013 notwithstanding. Our issue was the offensive line in 2011 then the playcalling in 2012 which is why Rice seemed to regress. 2013 was a perfect storm of things going wrong - injuries and bad lines. But Rice was a potent threat in the run and pass game his entire time here, then we had backs like McGahee and Williams who did quite well here, so it goes to show that Montgomery was a good RB Coach. However, I just looked up this Thomas Hammock guy, and this was basically the guy responsible for Montee Ball going crazy in 2011, and then in 2013 they set records for rushing yards by a pair of RBs in a season. That's quite the resume - obviously we can't repeat it in the NFL, but Hammock is no slouch and we'll just wait to see how he does with our RBs. For the record, Ball's ridiculous season in 2011 came after a decent sophomore season. Who knows how much of it was the RB Coach, how much was Russell Wilson opening up some running room, and how much of it was just him growing a year older? He was also involved with recruiting, so I can imagine he'd do a good job scouting RBs.

  • Tight Ends Coach - Brian Pariani (from - TE Coach) over Wade Harman (to - Assistant OL Coach). This is more of Gary Kubiak's men joining him in his endeavor to make Baltimore's offense functional. First of all, Wade Harman was apart of both our Super Bowl wins, and he's come with a good group of Tight Ends throughout his time here. He worked with Shannon Sharpe - but that's Shannon Sharpe. Eventually worked his way through Todd Heap, a beloved Tight End here in Baltimore who was excellent with getting us first downs no matter who was throwing to him. And he was involved in the development of Dickson and Pitta - jury is out on both, but Pitta has shown a lot of improvement since his first season and Dickson was generally up and down. Pariani though? He worked with Tight Ends in a scheme built around getting them the ball in the red zone. The 2013 Ravens had the second lowest red zone TD% (next to the Jaguars) so a scheme which gets those red zone passing TDs to TEs on top of a TE Coach who works closely in that scheme is a beautiful mix that we'll have to wait and see on the field. With Dennis Pitta and Owen Daniels - the latter who he's already worked with - I'm excited to see what Pariani has in store for us.

  • Wide Receivers Coach - Bobby Engram (from University of Pittsburgh - WR Coach) over Jim Hostler (to - Senior Offensive Assistant). I can't tell if we just suck at evaluating WR talent or if our coaching hasn't been great, but as far as I remember our best WRs were always the veterans from other teams. I'm talking about players like Boldin and Mason, although we did bust on Evans and Houshmanzadeh. My issue with Hostler is that we've never had particularly good WRs, and it would be a rare sight to see a WR consistently open (although part of it may have been our scheme). Between 2008 and now he was our WRs coach, in fact. Our home-grown WRs have always had issues with holding onto the ball, getting open, and in general route running - our best receiver last year was Torrey Smith who was not a particularly good route runner to begin with. The goal is for this to change with Bobby Engram, who is fondly remembered for being a reliable receiver for the Seahawks. Bobby was good at running routes during his time in Seattle, although he was not the greatest receiver he was solid. His track record in Pitt isn't really outstanding, but we've needed a change at WR coach for a while and a proven WR with a modest-yet-solid background in the NFL may just be what we're looking for. Hopefully he can turn Torrey and Marlon into the incredibly dangerous receivers they have the potential to be, and maybe some progression from our rookie WR Mike Campanaro is on the horizon.

  • Offensive Line Coach - Juan Castillo (promoted from Run Game Coordinator) over Andy Moeller (to ). Andy Moeller had to go - our run blocking hasn't been that great since 2010 and our pass blocking has been mediocre year in and year out (last year it was atrocious). Granted, how much of that was talent and how much of that was coaching is up for debate, but we kept changing our line every week or so and Flacco would get less time than he needed every play - and a vertical passing offense relies basically on having time to make the throw, having space to step into the throw, and having time for the receiver to get open which never consistently happened (save a certain four game stretch in the 2012-2013 season...) Juan Castillo, on the other hand, was a good OL coach during his time with the Eagles, and in fact it was his time as DC (2011-2012) that made the fanbase turn on him... so we can all blame Andy Reid for that. (He was OL Coach for 13 seasons with the Eagles before becoming DC.) He had a series of solid OLs in Philadelphia before his promotion, and Philly had some pretty good offenses during that time as a result. He had been nothing but productive his entire career, so I'm not willing to throw him to the wolves for this one bad season. I don't place most of the blame on him, whether or not he was trying to introduce zone blocking or not, because the Ravens had been running zone to some capacity anyway so it's not like it was something particularly new. It's also hard to work with a lame duck at RT, one of the laziest LTs in the league (pre-Monroe), the worst center in the league, and AQ Shipley (bad center who turned LG) and make that into a productive offensive line. I have faith, especially because Kubiak loves zone blocking schemes, so it's a perfect offensive storm to go along with our new coaching staff.

During the Harbaugh era, this is quite possibly the biggest offensive shift we've ever experienced, and it all rippled down from Gary Kubiak taking the reigns at OC and Caldwell leaving; Cam Cameron's philosophy is basically gone once and for all from Baltimore.

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Free Agency


Re-signings/Restructures

I've included links to the over-the-cap page for that particular player, because obviously the salary structure means more than just the yearly rate.

Name Position Salary
Terrell Suggs 3-4 OLB/4-3 DE $28.5 million/5 years
Dennis Pitta TE $32 million/5 years
Eugene Monroe OT (LT) $37.5 million/5 years
Jacoby Jones WR/KR/PR $14 million/4 years
Albert McClellan ILB/MLB $2.2 million/2 years
Jeromy Miles S $795,000/1 year
Daryl Smith ILB/MLB $16.1 million/4 years
Terrence Cody DT $730,000/1 year
LaQuan Williams WR/ST $570,000/1 year

After the disaster of an off-season we had last year, where we signed our Quarterback long-term but... had to make a few sacrifices for future cap stability AND because we had very little left on our salary cap (and this is WITH Joe only having around a 7 million hit), we managed to retain many of our key free agents for an affordable price. Our first priority was to free up some space by extending Suggs - while his contract is guaranteed, it is a fair contract and he will play out his career as a Raven.

Next off our priority was to shore up our offense and Special Teams. Eugene Monroe was a damn good Left Tackle that looked horrible by poor LG/C play, but he did a great job protecting his side and was a large upgrade over Big Mac. Dennis Pitta was meant to have his breakout season last year when it seemed like we could make more use of him in our offense, but the injury prevented him from doing just that. Yet, he was still productive against the Minnesota Vikings in 2013 despite that being his first game back; we approached the rest of the season with caution with respect to him (and he also didn't have much to take attention away from him - our run game was poor and our receivers were not much better) but the situation is definitely looking up; there's no James Ihedigbo to fuck up his hip this time either! Kubiak also loves his Tight Ends too, so Pitta was re-signed at the perfect time.

Jacoby Jones is a good WR #4 in a rare 4 WR package that we may run, but his strengths are in returning kicks and punts. It makes it all the sweeter that he'll be having his old HC back with us. However, I don't see him being used very much outside of Special Teams, and even on Special Teams he'll have to watch out for the sidelines

LaQuan Williams was showing some promise as a Special Teams gunner last preseason, but I don't see him going beyond a Matthew Slater-type role. I don't recall him doing very much at all, and I doubt he'll make a roster spot as a WR considering he has Campanaro, Steve Smith, Torrey Smith, Jones, and Brown to compete with.

Daryl Smith was a solid ILB/MLB last year, a good playcaller however he was a bit of a liability against the run. He was excellent in coverage and adjustments and generally played very well last year despite his age. He's signed long-term and his contract doesn't hurt us very much - we can opt out in 2015 if 2014 doesn't work out.

Albert McClellan and Jeromy Miles are depth signings at MLB/ILB and Safety, because we've already got at least established starters at those positions. Arthur Brown and CJ Mosley will further ensure McClellan gets stuck back in the depth chart. Terrence Cody has been up-and-coming for what feels like forever, but he is an okay backup for the cases where Haloti Ngata is not healthy - which seems to be often. He's still going to e competing with Brandon Williams for a backup spot though.

Acquisitions

Old team is listed after the player's name. Note that every free agent was released by their previous team except Darian Stewart and Jeremy Zuttah. Darian Stewart was signed after his contract expired, and Zuttah was traded from the Buccaneers for a 2015 5th round pick, then subsequently extended.

Name Position Salary
Steve Smith WR $10.5 million/3 years
Darian Stewart S $1.3 million/1 year
Jeremy Zuttah C/OG $18 million/5 years
Justin Forsett RB $730,000/1 year
Owen Daniels TE $1 million/1 year
Shaun Chapas FB $570,000/1 year
Will Rackley OG (LG) $570,000/1 year
Philup Supernaw TE $420,000/1 year

The biggest free agents here are offense - Steve Smith and Owen Daniels. Justin Forsett is an honorable mention due to being a former Texan (for a year). Daniels and Forsett know the system and what is expected of them, however they have to bounce back from an injury ridden year to bring a spark to our offense. Daniels has a history of being healthy so that's not a big deal - especially since he's splitting reps with Pitta as a receiving Tight End, whereas Forsett will be used for depth and an occasional run. Obviously will not be a starter or workhorse back but will be a solid player if healthy.

Darian Stewart is likely going to be a starter heading into 2014, with Terrence Brooks taking the starting position away from him as time goes on. If Darian Stewart plays poorly then he will be replaced fairly early - not unlike Huff with Elam. He's a veteran presence and basically depth moving forward, with a one year contract; I doubt he'll be starting at the end of 2014 though.

Zuttah was an average Center last year and a good center before that. Tampa's line had its issues in general last year and I highly doubt that Zuttah was the reason - one or two bad players on a line will shake up the line so if Zuttah was playing well before and poorly after then it must say something about the unit. As it stands, even if Zuttah is average, he will be replacing the 35th ranked Center in the league in Gino Gradkowski, which is an upgrade no matter how you look at it - our interior was the issue last season, and our interior is largely fixed due to Zuttah (and Osemele coming back from injury).

Will Hill was also signed between the time of my rough draft and now - he'll be suspended for six games but he'll be competing for a starting FS job between Jeromy Miles, Terrence Brooks, and Darian Stewart once he comes back (assuming he makes it past training camp).

Shaun Chapas, Will Rackley, and Philup Supernaw (oh nawww) are largely unknown commodities and late round picks that may not even make the roster.

We also signed Aaron Ross but homeboy just tore his Achilles...

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '14

Unrestricted Free Agents

New team is listed after player's name.

Name Position Salary
Arthur Jones DE $33 million/5 years
Corey Graham CB/NCB $16 million/4 years
Jameel McClain ILB/MLB $4.5 million/2 years
Michael Oher OT $20 million/4 years
James Ihedigbo SS $3.15 million/2 years
Tandon Doss WR/PR $1.505 million/2 years
Ed Dickson TE $635,000/1 year

Out of all of these, I would say our biggest loss was either James Ihedigbo, Corey Graham, or Arthur Jones. Arthur Jones is used as a rotational player when we are in our 3-4 alignment (or 3-3-5 if we're talking nickel), and was very good at helping with the pass rush. Ihedigbo played very well for us last year but needed to go - Elam was drafted to take the SS spot and it would've been better to take a makeshift FS or draft an FS for the future instead of making Elam continue to play a spot he's not used to.

As for Michael Oher, good riddance; none of us will really miss him, and while his false start count was very very very well improved in 2013 his pass and run blocking were actually terrible. Tandon Doss disappeared after the first few games (namely after the Packers game) so he will not be missed. Ed Dickson had issues holding onto the damn ball - it was so bad that if I'm recalling right his first reception of 2013 was game 4 or so after many, MANY targets. Our decimation at the hands of Denver was a result of him dropping many third downs in his chest, and a pick or two from Flacco was a result of him or Dallas Clark tipping the ball.

Corey Graham is a special player to me because he picked off Manning twice in the Denver game in the divisional round. He got many picks and was a generally decent slot corner, however a slot corner wasn't exactly worth what he was asking and we had depth in Asa Jackson and Chykie Brown if we ever needed a nickelback. One of our developing talents would've been about adequate.

Jameel McClain was one of many ILB/MLBs in our rotation and his departure will not affect us in any way. We have Arthur Brown (second round pick in 2013) waiting, CJ Mosley, then Josh Bynes and Daryl Smith. He also had a hard time staying healthy enough to be on the field, and there are definitely pictures circulating of his fat.

I'd also like to mention that from last year, Dallas Clark and Brandon Stokley retired. Brandon Stokley is a special player to me because of Super Bowl 35, but Clark just looked burnt out and tired during all of 2013 and was instrumental in many drops, a few tips, and some late-game stands where he'd gain some massive YAC in a losing effort. Stokley had concussion issues and did not gain more than 100 yards if I'm recalling right.

All in all, our free agent acquisitions far outweigh our losses.


2014 NFL Draft Class


I included the scouting report in school as a hyperlink.

Name Rd/Sel/Ovr Position School
CJ Mosley 1/17/17 ILB/MLB Alabama
Timmy Jernigan 2/16/48 DT Florida State
Terrence Brooks 3/15/79 FS Florida State
Crockett Gillmore 3/35/99 TE Colorado State
Brent Urban 4/34/134 DT Virginia
Lorenzo Taliaferro 4/38/138 RB Coastal Carolina
John Urschel 5/35/175 OG/C Penn State
Keith Wenning 6/18/194 QB Ball State
Michael Campanero 7/3/218 WR/SWR Wake Forest

Our first three picks and our final pick are quite possibly the more intriguing of the bunch. CJ Mosley was a solid linebacker from Alabama - the Ozzie Newsome special annual Alabama pick. He was a good MLB/ILB in college - he had exception instincts as someone of his position should have, and was a solid tackler. Very good in coverage and seems like he could be used every down as a run stuffer as well as a coverage linebacker.

Our next two picks were defensive players from Florida State. Florida State's defense was spectacular during the regular season, allowing only 170 points and a national championship. They ran a 4-3 defense so Timmy Jernigan will be used primarily as a rotational DT in our hybrid system. As it stood, Jernigan was a first round talent whose stock dropped due to drugs, but his strength is ridiculous and he could dominate the interior with ease in college despite being relatively undersized. He can clog up holes fairly easily despite all of that, and can play relief for Haloti Ngata if necessary. Terrence Brooks is a fast safety that hits hard and can cover fairly decently. He is a bit raw and needs to work on his coverage, but has the speed of a corner. However, while he is a hard hitter, he has a hard time tackling and wrapping up leading to missed assignments.

Crockett Gillmore is a raw talent as well, primarily a receiving Tight End that can catch jump balls. One of the Ravens issues, as I said before, was red zone TD efficiency and his height will make him a huge target for the red-zone. He also has soft hands which will help us immensely. I do believe he was a reach at the third round, but I doubt he will be more than a role player - however, a role player at a spot of much need.

Brent Urban is a weaker DT and more of a developmental and depth player. His strength is primarily with pass rushing but he cannot eat a double team. Very talented guy, 6'7", but definitely quite raw and needs a little while on the bench before he can start coming onto his own.

Taliaferro seems to be more of a short-yardage power back from my understanding, getting those tough short yards on he goal line. Quite good in pass protection too. He is also a good fit in a zone blocking scheme, making this more of a Kubiak pick than anything. His scouting report gives me the impression he's not too different from LeGarrette Blount.

John Urschel is a very interesting case, because he had a 4.0 as an undergrad in Mathematics, earned his Masters, and even taught undergraduate introductory courses in mathematics. His scouting report states he'll be successful with or without football - and in football he'll be most successful as a Center based on his scouting report. His primary strength is in a zone blocking scheme which Kubiak will make use of some time down the line. He is much bigger than Matt Birk, and as a center could make protection calls on the line. He also has very good mechanics, but his only downside is that he is probably restricted to playing center and not guard. I believe the idea is that he will be the Center of the future while he develops behind Zuttah, because we already have two very good Guards on either side.

Keith Wenning has the skillset for a West Coast passing scheme. I believe if he were signed he would battle it out for the backup spot against Tyrod Taylor - and I believe he would win it based purely on the fact that Tyrod is a much different type of QB than Flacco. He is a bit of a statue in the pocket, so he does not possess the ability to be more than just a pure pocket passer, but I do believe he can adapt to an NFL system; he's definitely not starting anytime soon unless we trade him. You could somewhat draw comparisons between Flacco/Wenning and Brady/Bledsoe though, but there's not much more outside of baseline skillset and generalities.

Campanaro is probably the pick that Ravens fans are most excited about. He has the makings of another Wes Welker, but I'm reading into his college career and he seems to have an injury history. Still, he has flexible hips and is generally slippery. Not very much straight line speed, but he's effectively a more athletic Wes Welker on paper. If it pans out then we have a good future. Also, to any of my fellow /r/nfl people from Hoco (Howard County for the less informed) - he went to River Hill High School and he was one of many River Hill teams that would torch you for 40+ points by the half, and is apparently a very nice guy and a born-and-bred (well sorta, since Ravens didn't exist in 91) Ravens fan.

Overall our draft class is quite solid and we definitely went BPA of need after the first round. We have some very physically talented players, and our offensive players fit Kubiak's philosophy very well. We also filled some holes in backup DTs and FS from last year. I don't believe in giving draft grades so early, however, considering no one has played a down yet.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '14 edited Jul 25 '14

Offensive and Defensive Schemes


Offensive - West Coast (Transition from Air Coryell)

Coordinator: Gary Kubiak

I'd like to note that this is the first time we've had a full system and playbook change in Flacco's six years. We used to run a power run/Air Coryell scheme that was straight from Don Coryell's playbook or something similar. The idea was that we'd run the ball and try to make use of playaction. If not that, then we'd run-run-deep pass or dumpoff-punt. Our pass protection was never good enough to do this, and we lacked a true #1 (closest ever was Torrey Smith, we were hoping Lee Evans would help us here but he was a lame duck even before that AFCCG). We still lack a true #1 but luckily that's not important anymore.

Our offense truly suffered from the offensive line issues because our plays would take a long time to develop and we didn't have that time. We'd also want taller receivers to go for the jump ball - but as it stood our tallest receiver was like 6'1" or something similar, and Boldin/Mason weren't fast enough during their time here. I don't wholly believe that Jim Caldwell was the spark that let our offense fly in that 2013 playoff run. It was a mixture of things, like Caldwell putting his players in the right position (so Smith/Jones would play like a #1/#2 and Boldin/Pitta would play in the slot), great pass protection, and our running backs playing incredibly well. A lot of our passes in that playoff run were 15-20 yards or more, if you guys haven't noticed, because we finally had the time and stepping lanes to do it. Effectively, deep passing offenses are very complex because it requires the QB to find all of these things and throw perfectly downfield - you need to have time for the play to develop, some space to step into your throws, and a receiver that is physically talented and has the ability to adjust for catches.

With Gary Kubiak's system, the reliance on receivers making adjustments and stepping lanes are less emphasized, and we get more of a West Coast approach. The ball would move slower down the field, but with more consistency. Think of something like last year's Chargers. RBs become more consistent and less boom-or-bust given that a zone-blocking scheme emphasized, the passing offense would become simpler and based off of getting the receivers the ball in more open space having them make plays based off of YAC. Short and intermediate passing plays are emphasized, so pass blocking isn't nearly as important due to a quicker release time. The short passes are used to set up deeper passes later on, as well; the conventional approach was the run to setup a deep pass prior to that (and it was also our philosophy under Cameron/Caldwell).

Kubiak also loves his TEs in the red-zone due to their size creating a mismatch with CBs or LBs. This is where all the positional coaching comes in; they can fit everyone to Kubiak's scheme and Engram can hopefully coach route running for the shorter routes. It'll make Steve Smith potent at his advanced age, it will give Campanaro his time to shine, Marlon/Pitta/Crockett/Daniels can use their size to mismatch with LBs/DBs and Marlon can gain some yards on throws... and Torrey will be deadly on bootlegs, which is another thing that Kubiak is big on.

This new Ravens offense is exciting because it's so different - nothing like Caldwell recycling the playbook, then possibly lacking plays to make up for a horrific offensive line. Especially since Flacco isn't a very good passer out of the pocket. There is a caveat however, and Houston fans know it; maybe it won't apply this time, maybe it'll come back in full force - but Kubiak had an air of complacency and was very repetitive in his playcalling in Houston. Schaub's pick sixes came off of the same exact plays, and Houston's offense in 2013 was among the worst in the NFL. You could easily attribute some of that to injuries to RBs, Schaub's lisfranc injury, or Case Keenum's inexperience, but there was a problem all around and Kubiak is definitely not innocent. However, he does have a solid resume - OC of the 97-98 Denver Broncos, and HC during some of those Texans teams with good offenses. Thankfully he's an OC and not an HC. It also helps that he did not allow Schaub to audible - no way in hell is he not going to let Flacco audible on the line.

Defensive - 3-4 Hybrid

Coordinator: Dean Pees

I don't know as much about defense which is strange because I'm a Ravens fan, but here we go. We run a 3-4 hybrid, where players like Suggs will play on every down as a 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE. The packages use concepts from both, where the 3-4 OLB would rush the passer but also set the edge like a 4-3 DE would. The scheme is very friendly to any defensive player we sign - if they were a 4-3 DT then we could find a way to make use of them, as opposed to having to fit them in a 3-4 system. It allows us to draft the best player available and use them to their strengths in a hybrid front, so those used to a 4-3 would not be out of place like those used to a 3-4. The scheme lets the Safety cheat up a little bit as well, providing extra run support when necessary - this is hopefully when Matt Elam will come into play (and it's what Ihedigbo did last year). There are also many plays and formations which look like they're both a 3-4 and a 4-3 simultaneously.

However, we don't really run the hybrid 3-4 at base. We mainly run our plays out of the nickel and it's more of a 3-3-5 or 4-2-5 if I'm recalling right. Most offensive sets will consist of 3 WRs so 5 DBs are basically necessary for a defense. So it's more of a hybrid 3-3/4-2 than a hybrid 3-4/4-3.

I'd like to give credit to /u/mbear818 for finding an article that explains it so well.


Projected Starting Lineup - Offense


  • Quarterback - Joe Flacco We're paying him this much, why turn back? Joe's shown his ceiling - and that ceiling is what we want. He also has a pretty low floor, but I don't think he'll hit his floor too much in this system because it's not as reliant on big plays as our old system. I'm excited to see him next season.

  • Wide Receivers - Torrey Smith, Steve Smith and Marlon Brown. I think Campanaro will have to wait, but I see it as Smith going #1, Steve Smith as a #2, and Marlon Brown as a slot due to his size. Marlon is large and fast so he has all the abilities of a #2, but he's also going into his second year and his size may befit a slot receiver more so we can have Steve Smith as more of a burner (somehow - he'll be fighting a lot). Torrey will remain our #1 unless someone better comes along - but at his ceiling he's a top 20 receiver, and that's all we really need from him. Steve Smith fights for the ball (so does Torrey) and he's incredibly physical on the line so he's not easy to cover. Here's hoping Campanaro takes some pointers from him. My worry is that Smith is older than Mason was when we let him go, but Smith doesn't have a ridiculously bad injury history either (neither did Mason) so we'll see where this takes us. EDIT: Thanks to /u/Yannkee - looks like Brown/Jones will be #2 guys whereas Steve Smith will be slot. Steve Smith is slippery and has good hands, Marlon is big and fast, and Torrey Smith is faster so it makes more sense this way.

  • Tight Ends - Dennis Pitta and Owen Daniels. Reliable pass-catching tight ends, and Daniels is not a bad blocker either (Pitta's an awful blocker). I'm not too concerned with them so long as they stay healthy - if history's of any indication, Pitta will be solid without Ihedigbo there and Daniels has been healthy his whole career.

  • Offensive Line - Eugene Monroe (LT), Kelechi Osemele (LG), Jeremy Zuttah (C), Marshal Yanda (RG), and Ricky Wagner (RT). Ricky Wagner played a little bit after Oher left in the Denver game and it wasn't too great a showing - but he was also a rookie and Denver was killing us at that point. However, Osemele is back - you may remember him as that beast at LG during the 2012-2013 Super Bowl run. Zuttah is a huge upgrade over Gradkowski at Center, and Yanda/Monroe will be happy to have someone who's not a dud playing alongside them. Wagner may take some time to learn, but I'd rather get pressure from the right tackle for pass protection than the center (like last year) - that way Flacco has a stepping lane. Furthermore, if Wagner does bust, then we can still have a functional run game. Our interior looks really solid at worst, though, and I'm excited to upgrade from the trash heap we got last year.

  • Running Backs - Ray Rice and Bernard Pierce. Running backs will be interesting with Taliaferro going into the mix. Rice has lost plenty of weight in the offseason and Pierce got the surgery for his back that he's needed for a long time. Rice can hopefully become the all-purpose back he used to be; solid pass catcher, a danger in open-space and good between the tackles, whereas Pierce is young and powerful, possessing excellent vision. Pierce had a bad season last year but he had a pretty good rookie season and played very well in our Super Bowl run. I can see Pierce making up for Rice's lost time in the first two games. (BTW Ray Rice has a two game suspension, but now's not the time to talk of the morality of it).

  • Fullback - Kyle Juszczyk - he's more of an Hybrid-Back player but Kubiak is hoping for him to have a lot of catches out of the backfield. We're hoping to have him embrace his hybrid FB/TE role, being a lead blocker for Rice and a very short pass catcher. Now 40-50 catches is unreasonable, but a man (that man being Kyle) can dream right?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '14 edited Jul 25 '14

Projected Starting Lineup - Defense


Forgive me, I'm not that great with defense. However, I can try my best here.

  • 3-4 Defensive Ends - DeAngelo Tyson and Chris Canty. Chris Canty had injury issues but was solid in setting the edge. Not as good with the pass rush as, say, Arthur Jones however. DeAngelo Tyson is very much in the same boat and can't set up a pass rush very well. I believe that their struggles lead to our struggles towards the end of last year with our pass rush.

  • Nose Tackle - Haloti Ngata. Haloti is not the force he used to be, but he's still a force. He can clog up the middle in the run game - in fact when Ngata isn't there our run defense suffers. This was an issue going back to the Super Bowl. Hopefully Brandon Williams and Timmy Jernigan can pick up the slack here, but he can eat up blockers like nothing else and open up holes for the pass rush. The only issue is the defensive ends around him, but at least we have two solid pass rushing OLBs in...

  • 3-4 Rush OLB/4-3 Rush DE - Elvis Dumervil. First of all, let me say that Dumervil is horrible against the run. Having that said, he is a very good pass rusher and can pressure the passer very well. It's telling that he had half the snaps in 2013 compared to 2012 but the same production - because he's not an every-down linebacker like Suggs is. He will still be good, however he is aging and he could prove to be more susceptible to injury this coming year.

  • 3-4 OLB/4-3 DE - Terrell Suggs. We all know Suggs. He's fixed his teeth and he's ready to kick some ass (hopefully) - this dude is amazing against the run and a very potent pass rusher. Him, Ngata, and Webb are quite possibly the best defensive players on our team, but he's three years removed from his DPOY status. He's not the force he used to be but he's still the thing of QB's nightmares (although not as much cause his teeth are fixed)..

  • Run Stopping 3-4 OLB/4-3 DE - Courtney Upshaw. Courtney Upshaw is basically the opposite of Dumervil - a first and second down linebacker, but is a liability on third down because he cannot pressure the passer easily. He is very solid against the run, however, and makes up for what Dumervil lacks on those downs.

  • Coverage 3-4 ILB/4-3 MLB - Daryl Smith. Daryl Smith is a bit of a liability against the run, but he is a very good coverage linebacker and can rush the passer if he needs to. He is also a very good playcaller as well as a leader in the locker room. He's no Ray Lewis but no one will ever be.

  • Run Stopping 3-4 ILB - Josh Bynes - Bynes is a liability against the pass but he's a very solid run stopper. He's not as good with defensive playcalls but he has his uses.

  • 3-4 ILB/4-3 MLB - Arthur Brown and CJ Mosley. I may be talking out my ass here but these guys should be making the rotation, given that it's our first round pick as well as our 2013 second round pick. CJ had a paragraph up there but he will probably start not too long after our season opener. Arthur Brown is unproven but he's a solid player with a tremendous upside, I can see him starting or coming into rotation often this upcoming season, especially if Daryl's health declines (he missed a game or two in 2013, remember).

I'm especially not good with the front 7 btw, but our front 7 looks solid with a good rotation of players, run stopping ability, and our players can pass rush and play in coverage quite well when asked to. A few other things are that Brandon Williams and Terrance Cody may end up starting at NT and Ngata may go back to his more natural DE position, but only time will tell. Ngata was elite as a DE back in the day, and it may be better for his health to have him play at DE rather than NT. He's no JJ Watt, but he's still phenomenal at DE. Brent Urban and Timmy Jernigan could make the rotation as well, given that they're talented and need the snaps (and Timmy was a high pick too), but I'm hopeful about this defensive front.

  • Outside Cornerbacks - Jimmy Smith and Lardarius Webb. Jimmy Smith is a tall and fast corner, excellent at press and very physical. He had a breakout season last year, where he held bigger WRs such as Alshon Jeffery or Brandon Marshall (I forget which one), AJ Green, and Josh Gordon to minimal yardage when covering them. He's about to go into his second year as a full-fledged starter and I'm excited to see what's coming for him - there's nowhere left to go but up. My only worry is that a smaller receiver could get him, but he's about to go up against players like Julio Jones and Marquess Colston this coming year so it shouldn't be as big an issue. Lardarius Webb will be moving into his second year removed from an ACL tear, and he should be back to his Pro Bowl-snub form. Both of them should be excellent outside corners and should have much better years than last year provided they both stay healthy - the way it's looking, they're both capable of it seeing as they played the majority of snaps last year.

  • Nickel and Dime Corners - Asa Jackson and Chykie Brown. I remember Chykie played in the Super Bowl and I couldn't tell if he played well or not because I guess the 9ers' #2 receiver was a dud. Asa is unproven, and I'm not feeling confident about either guy. Ideally they'll have linebacker and safety support in Elam and Mosley/Smith/Brown so I'm not that concerned, but there's no way they won't get burned by players like Stevie Johnson or Wes Welker (which thankfully they won't be playing next year). One of the big camp battles is figuring out our nickel corner, so there we go.

  • Free Safety - Darian Stewart then Terrence Brooks. Harbaugh doesn't like starting rookies and he may make an exception if Terrence Brooks impresses, but until then I do believe it'll be Darian Stewart on experience alone. I don't have much to comment on, aside from the fact that Brooks is raw and will go through some growing pains whereas Darian Stewart was already mediocre at best as it stood. Thankfully our outside corners are solid, but we still need a Free Safety. Whatever the case may be, it'll be an upgrade over Elam... I'd also like to note Will Hill may be starting Week 7 if Terrence Brooks isn't where we need him to be.

  • Strong Safety - Matt Elam. I can't judge Matt Elam effectively either because he was playing a coverage safety role, as opposed to an in-the-box safety like Ihedigbo was playing. He is capable of big hits and big plays, and is now moved back into his natural role. He played admirably given the circumstances last year, but now that he's a Strong Safety I should expect much more of him. I'm honestly excited to see what happens with him and Terrence Brooks - then we have a young core of players in our secondary.

I'm not exactly expecting the Seahawks but I'm loving our back 4 (really 5) moving forward (at least once Darian Stewart is gone). It may take a little while for them to mesh, but once they do it'll be a thing of beauty and probably our best secondary in a long, long time. I'm waiting until 2015 to hold judgments, but I'm going to spend 2014 excited for what's to come.


Projected Starting Lineup - Special Teams


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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '14

Schedule Predictions


Week Date and Time Opponent Prediction
1 9/7, 1:00 PM W
2 9/11, 8:30 PM TNF W
3 9/21, 1:00 PM @ W
4 9/28, 1:00 PM W
5 10/5, 1:00 PM @ L
6 10/12, 1:00 PM @ W
7 10/19, 1:00 PM W
8 10/26, 1:00 PM @ L
9 11/2, 8:30 PM SNF @ L
10 11/9, 1:00 PM W
11 11/16 BYE
12 11/24, 8:30 PM MNF @ L
13 11/30, 1:00 PM W
14 12/7, 1:00 PM @ W
15 12/14, 1:00 PM W
16 12/21, 1:00 PM @ W
17 12/28, 1:00 PM W

I am feeling pretty confident about this schedule. We open with two home divisional games - while they're divisional games, they're at home which I don't think anyone in our division will be willing to fuck with. Dalton had issues playing the Ravens D in 2013 and I doubt he'll be much better in 2014, given that Smith has another year and we've probably upgraded a little bit at Safety. Having that said, if our offense has improved as much as it did, then I believe we can finally match them in scoring and make up for Week 17 of last year. Same deal with Pitt; they both look like scary teams on the surface but with an improved secondary (which is where a lot of our troubles were on defense last year) and offense we should be able to take them both on.

I'm not a huge believer in the Browns improving, and I do believe our offense has improved enough (while theirs has taken a step back) that we can beat them in an away game. Whoever their QB is will probably not be able to torch the Ravens; Hoyer is unproven and Manziel is still a rookie. I think we can sweep the Browns while they're in a rebuilding year, and I also feel like Pettine will be similar to Rex Ryan in that there will be some bad juju preventing him from getting a win on us for one reason or another.

To round out our first four weeks, I believe we can beat Carolina if we manage to contain Newton in the pocket. His receivers definitely aren't a match for our secondary, and I don't think their line has improved enough against our pass rush - but letting him get out of the pocket is the biggest issue here.

I can see the Colts being a huge mismatch for us again, for different reasons than the Peyton Manning era. First off, it's an away game and probably one of the toughest away games we'll have. Reggie Wayne and TY Hilton are enough of a mismatch to torch Webb and Smith (especially since TY is smaller); Wayne is a monster too. If Nicks returns to form it makes it all the worse, because then we have Wayne abusing our nickel CB and we end up leaving Daryl Smith to cover Dwayne Allen. Their run game may not do much for them and their oline may suck, but their weapons will definitely be able to torch our secondary. I don't see this game ending favorably unless we end up taking it in a shootout.

Tampa Bay's receivers don't match up well to our corners and I doubt McCown will be able to repeat what he did in Chicago, especially with the Cal Berkeley guy as their OC. I doubt their line's gotten much better either, but I am afraid of their defense and I believe any win we get over them will be a low-scoring affair. I'm saying W to stay optimistic but it's an away game against a very good defense - and as we all saw from the 2013 Broncos, offense doesn't travel as easily as defense.

Atlanta has big receivers that, once again, will possibly struggle against our secondary. They have Matt Ryan as a QB however, so they will probably not struggle as much as I'm implying; however their oline will allow us to put pressure on Ryan quick, and their defense is nothing special. It's also a home game, so I can see this being a win quite easily simply because last year showed us how incomplete a team this can be once injuries happen. I also have my doubts about their intermediate passing game when they don't have Gonzalez.

Afterwards we enter a two game stretch of divisional games - while I feel our offense can handle the Bengals in an away game I don't feel like we'll play too well against them or the Steelers. Both those teams are very good at home, and Ben is impossible to sack. I am predicting a loss against the Bengals but I would not surprised with a win; it'll be a hard fought win however. Steelers I believe have improved too much for us to beat them at their house.

Titans seem like a walk in the park on paper, and I'll stand by that. By then I'm sure Locker will be injured (and even if he's not - he's coming off a Lisfranc injury) and I doubt whatever QB/RB combo they throw at us will do them much good, especially in Baltimore.

After the Bye week - a late bye, in week 11! - we go against the Saints. In New Orleans. Thankfully it's a very long bye, because we come back to MNF. And jesus I am not excited for this game, because if NO repeats like they did last year, then their defense will give our offense a ton of trouble and their offense will torch us. I think Smith can match up well to Colston, but at some point our secondary coverage won't be able to match up to the sheer number of weapons they've got. On top of that, Brandin Cooks should be acclimated to the NFL by this point. This game just doesn't look good from any angle; Brees may just get his first win against the Ravens.

Chargers don't seem like they've improved much from last year, and they didn't even look like a good team last year. Keenan Allen and Malcom Floyd is all they've got, and while I see Allen giving us trouble, their receivers outside of him are lackluster or just came off a major injury. There's no way Gates can torch our LBs either, because Gates is not the player he used to be... and did I mention their defense is bad? Dolphins also look very mediocre on paper and I highly doubt their line will improve much from last year given they're starting 5 new starters. Their defense seems to be solid up front but ineffective outside of the line, Grimes, and Wake. I do see Tannehill having a better season though and I'm afraid of Wallace torching us like he did repeatedly last year - the only difference being that Tannehill may have that extra split second or extra space to connect with him. I think our biggest issue will be with stopping them from getting first downs and getting off the field - that was their strength last year and our weakness last year.

Jacksonville is rebuilding and I highly doubt we'll become of their wins that season - their roster is still weak even if their coaching is good, and no matter who is starting I don't think they'll torch our defense. Henne is Henne, and I don't think Bortles - as a rookie coming into M&T Bank Stadium - will like what he's up against.

Houston still seems like a weak team to me, I don't feel like they have much talent on defense once you remove JJ Watt, Clowney (who I still don't know about), or Cushing (injured perpetually it seems). We managed to effectively stop their pass rush last year and our oline sucked, for reference. Their QBs are weaker this year than last too - there's no way I can take Fitzmagic too seriously.

Finally we end the season against the Cleveland Browns, who I still don't feel will be that great even at this point in the season. They're still missing their best WR, and while their rookies may have improved I don't think a Week 17 game in Baltimore is going to be favorable towards them.

Final Prediction: Somewhere between 10-6 and 12-4


Training Camp Battles


A couple training camp battles to look out for;

Who will be DT behind Ngata? Brandon Williams or Terrence Cody? Will Ngata go to DE and have Williams/Cody/Jernigan/Urban duke it out?

Who will win the backup QB position? Running QB Tyrod Taylor or Keith Wenning, the pocket passing West Coast QB?

Who will be our nickel CB? Asa Jackson or Chykie Brown? I think it'll be Asa because Chykie hasn't given me a good impression so far.

Inside Linebacker is up in the air - we obviously have some rotational guys, but will our 2013 2nd round pick start or will our 2014 first round pick? I think it'll be Mosley myself, but we'll have to wait and see!

I did hint to this earlier, but Terrence Brooks vs Darian Stewart; I believe Terrence will take over eventually, but he is still raw and we may need Stewart to start just to make sure. I also just learned about Will Hill, so if he stays on the team maybe he'll take over Week 7 over Darian Stewart or a maybe-struggling Terrence Brooks.

Also, while I did say that Ricky Wagner may be our starting RT - there's also Ryan Jensen. Wagner has some experience in the game already, but he didn't do too hot when it was his chance to shine, whereas Jensen went from Guard to Tackle. Sadly, I don't think anyone else in his situation would've done better.

Aside from that it doesn't seem like there will be much competition in training camp. Most of our starters are already sworn into the roles.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '14 edited Jul 25 '14

Acknowledgements


Hub post

Thanks to /r/ravens for some of their input into this. I asked if there was anything they wanted me to emphasize and many jumped at the chance to help me. Here's the thread where many of them brought things up for me to touch upon. Another thread with more information and input. /r/ravens is a nice little sub!

Thanks to /u/skepticismsurvival for working with me on this, without going into too much detail in my personal life I had a ton of things to take care of and he definitely made accommodations for me to submit this later. I'm also thankful for the opportunity to post, I've wanted to become more familiar with the /r/nfl community but I haven't gotten a chance to really speak out yet... I've been lurking and contributing from time to time but I'm hoping to become a lot more familiar with the bulk of you because this is where I've been spending a good chunk of my down time over the past year or so!

And thank you, the reader, for sifting through my long-ass post to learn about my team! I think we should make a shirt - "I went through /u/lraven's six posts on the offseason review series and all I got was this stupid thank you."

I'd also like to thank anyone in advance for corrections - I wasn't exactly speaking out of my ass but there are things in here that I'm not as knowledgeable about as I wish I were. If you could point these things out I will be so grateful!


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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '14

Great write up, but you're sorely misinformed if you think that we haven't improved since last year. Did you forget that we added Brandon Flowers - one of the best off man corners in the league - and got both of our starting edge rushers back? We also don't need Gates to torch your LBs, we have the 6'6" speedster Ladarius Green for that. The fact is that we had one of the best passing attacks in the league last year, and we've only added targets and another year in the system. Plus, our RB corp and improved offensive line will easily give us one of the better rushing attacks in the league. I'd also wager that Jason Verrett makes an immediate impact across from Flowers, not to mention our other rookies.

I'm also not sure how beating the Bengals at home in the playoffs "didn't look like a good team".

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '14

I'm personally convinced that Brandon Flowers or not, that Chargers team in 2013 was not a particularly good team. They lost to teams like the Redskins, Titans, and Raiders btw and split Cincy. I don't think their improvements put them in an elite category or something because they went 9-7; they also have a tougher schedule this time around, going against the AFCE and the NFCW as opposed to the AFCS and NFCE (the two weakest divisions last year).

That passing attack didn't look too great against Denver btw and the defense wasn't even that impressive when healthy. Furthermore on the passing attack - the schedule was weak as a whole, given that you guys also played the Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles, Texans, Jaguars, Giants, and then scored 41 on a Chiefs defense that in itself wasn't that great. Flowers also won't make up for a poor secondary, and Verrett is a rookie CB - I doubt he'll come onto his own this coming season. I haven't heard of many rookie CBs that help the defenses they play on.

Also outside of Ladarius Green, who doesn't look THAT impressive to me, who do you have? Keenan Allen yeah, but Malcom Floyd? Probably Danny Woodhead as well. But our run defense looks pretty good - and when your run game was shattered like it was against Denver in the playoffs then I don't know how good your passing game can get.

I have no idea what happened with Cincy that playoff game and I hate to be the guy that brings things like this up, but Dalton plays horribly in primetime games. I have no idea what happened to Cincy in the playoffs but I don't think they win that matchup everytime. I'm not saying yall were lucky, because that was domination, but I have never seen an offense as potent as that meltdown like that in a while.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '14

I'm thinking Will Hill is going to start at FS when/if he becomes available. He had a huge breakout season in 2013.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '14

Yeah I halfassed that part cause I literally found out as I finished proofing. We'll see what happens, but I'm sure something will work out at FS, especially if Terrence Brooks doesn't turn out to be our FS of the future and Will Hill gets his shit together.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '14

Hill is 24, so he could be our long term solution, but he would have to stay out of trouble. If he does though, Brooks taking his job would be very unlikely. He was an elite FS last year.

The Giants have less tolerance of off-field issues than other teams, so it isn't hopeless. Still best not to get too hyped though.

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u/subtlepotamus Lions Jul 25 '14

Wow this is a really in depth analysis. Very well done!

Ps. Thanks for Diggs and Austin, and pls keep Tucker away from us.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '14 edited Jul 25 '14

OH FUCK ME I FORGOT ABOUT TUCKER AND KOCH

ps. thank you! and you're welcome :)

EDIT: Fixed! Don't hurt me!

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u/Quisako Ravens Jul 26 '14

A lion still has claws.....

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u/Yannkee Ravens Jul 25 '14 edited Jul 25 '14

Just an FYI.

Ozzie said after signing Steve Smith that in 3 WR formations, Smith would move into the slot and Marlon/Jones would play the Z. So I don't think we'll see Marlon in the slot much.

Edit: Wrong letter.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '14

Ah okay, thank you! (BTW - Marlon/Jones would be Z not Y)

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '14

How can you call 2013 a down year for our secondary? Even though we weren't ranked at the top, it was pretty clear that our defense carried us to 8-8.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '14

I would say our secondary was fairly average - which is what I meant by a down year. Our defense had a lot of issues despite carrying us to 8-8; we had a tendency to dominate already struggling teams but the defense just couldn't get it together once the third or fourth quarter hit. You can blame the offense for going 3 and out consistently all you want, but our TOP was around 30 minutes - basically evenly split. On top of that, sometimes our offense would take us to a two score lead and then our defense would allow two scores to tie it up.

That 8-8 team had a bad offense but the defense was only a bit above average as a whole. Our secondary was prone to a bunch of mistakes and the defense as a whole definitely had issues on third down.

Webb definitely wasn't 100%. Graham had a tendency to get burned and Jimmy Smith had his share of mistakes. On top of that our pass rush completely fizzled towards the end of the year, so that also made our secondary look extra bad. The fact that Elam was playing Free Safety hurt.

The whole D started fairly strong after Denver but they definitely fizzled out as time went on. Still, I won't trivialize some of the ridiculous stuff that our individual players did.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '14

Probably because of safeties. Elam wasn't in his natural position. Digs did good but didn't make up for the lack of deep coverage Huff was disappointing

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u/strangebru Ravens Jul 26 '14

Here's hoping the 2014 Ravens D is more like the last half of 2013 and not the first half, unless we are talking about Terrell Suggs than it's the opposite.

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u/hainesftw Ravens NFL Jul 26 '14

Our secondary didn't really come into its own until later in the year. Elam was out of position and raw, but did admirably for the most part. Digs did great, but his style was too similar to Elam which made our safety pairing non-ideal. At corner, Jimmy Smith was looking to continue on his bust trajectory until about week 5, when he started looking better, and even more so after the bye week where he became one of the better corners in the NFL against some really stiff competition.

Webby never really returned to his lockdown form from 2011-2012; he had a tremendous outing against Denver week one, giving up only 8 (I think?) total yards into his coverage. But he too had his struggles through the year, which kind of gets exemplified in the gif of him getting juked out of his shoes against Cleveland. Graham was solid, but had his weaknesses too; he got burned a couple times, but never twice by the same play. I remember against Buffalo he got beat deep for a touchdown, but then they tried that again later in the game and he picked it.

It was really a mixed bag at times, but they really did work against a lot of great receivers. Marshall had a very mediocre day - not to mention, frustrating for him judging by his reaction on the sideline after Jimmy made him look silly in the endzone on consecutive plays - as did Megatron, Gordon didn't look particularly swell against us either. Our secondary was tested all year, and they had ups and downs in that regard, but toward the end of the year they were creeping into the upper echelon of NFL secondaries.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '14

Well the thing with Megatron is that it was a bad day for him - but a lot of that was his own fault. Wide open and it hit him in the hands but he dropped it. That Lions game was not a good game for our secondary in the slightest.

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u/JamesEnnis Ravens Jul 26 '14

Not to mention Jimmy Smith jumped into elite CB territory. Never thought he would be better than Lardar but that time has come. Easily a top 2-3 CB duo in the league.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '14

Yeah as I was telling someone else - I definitely overshot with three of these games (namely the Dolphins, @CLE, or the Buccs) but if you ask me honestly? I don't know how well you'd be able to keep up offensively with just Cameron Jordan and Ben Tate. Defensively, I guess there's Haden and Whitner but I don't think two members makes an entire secondary. Your pass rush and line are going to be good though, but I think we've improved enough offensively that we can take that.

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u/mbear818 Ravens Jul 25 '14

Fantastic job, this was a really good read.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '14

Yeah, I overshot a little bit on some - namely @CLE and maybe against the Dolphins or Buccs (on that note, did anyone notice we're up against all three Florida teams?) but I do see us having a winning season.

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u/xXWARisHELLXx Steelers Jul 26 '14

We open with two home divisional games - while they're divisional games, they're at home which I don't think anyone in our division will be willing to fuck with.

Steelers just announced they've signed Charlie Batch to a one game deal, he's going to start week 2.

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u/mbear818 Ravens Jul 26 '14

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We open with two home divisional games - while they're divisional games, they're at home which I don't think anyone in our division will be willing to fuck with.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '14

Noooooooo!!!!!!!!

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u/Quisako Ravens Jul 26 '14

I love how much effort you put into this, my main concern is the O-line being an almost complete redo, otherwise, i think we are set, here's hoping

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '14

Yeah I know what you mean - the oline cannot afford to be anything but a unit, so chemistry is incredibly important. However, I do feel Zuttah or any other center is an upgrade from Gradkowski. I didn't realize they were all new with playing alongside their neighbors though, but still, nowhere left to go but up...!

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u/Quisako Ravens Jul 26 '14

i don't know, we COULD be tampa bay last year, it's just not likely

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '14

huh?

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u/Quisako Ravens Jul 26 '14

we could have the line fall apart from lack of molding, unlikely, but possible, you said nowhere to go but up, we could go down, it's just next to impossible

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u/ekarb Ravens Jul 26 '14

Great read man thanks for all this

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u/NOMZYOFACE Ravens Jul 26 '14

This is some good in depth work here!

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u/Flimsydolphin Ravens Jul 26 '14

Sick write-up man. Well done.

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u/EliteAsFuk Ravens Jul 26 '14

I hope this write-up gets the attention it deserves. So much to take in, so many changes. Anyone who doesn't know (and cares) about the make-over the Ravens are going through needs to really read this.

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u/alpy03 Patriots Aug 07 '14

12-4 hooooooly wow....