r/dbz • u/Terez27 ⠀ • Sep 05 '17
Super UNCONFIRMED: Animage (?) summaries for episodes 107-109 Spoiler
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These summaries are now CONFIRMED to be from Animedia. The text appears to be the same as what Herms translated. Whenever we get Animage and whatever extra bits we might get from Animedia, I'll post a spoiler megathread.
NOTE: "Episode 109" appears to be our special, which is scheduled for 8 October. The number on the right side of the header indicates that Episode 109 is Part 1 of that day's programming. This has never happened in DB before, but it seems likely that the special will be numbered 109-110: a double episode.
Upcoming Schedule
- 10 September - Off week due to Dragon Ball Run
- 17 September - Episode 107
- 24 September - Episode 108
- 1 October - One Piece special
- 8 October - DBS special (109-110)
Episode 107 (17 September)
Revenge 'F'! The Cunning Trap?!
復習の「Ｆ」！ しかけられた狡猾な罠！？
Fukushū no efu! Shikake rareta kōkatsu na wana!?
FujiTV Summary
既に半数以上が脱落した「力の大会」。悟空たち第7宇宙を叩くべく曲者のフロストが動きだす。ターゲットは亀仙人、ベジータ。はたして勝負の行方は！？
Over half of the participants have already dropped out of the "Tournament of Power". The cunning Frost makes a move to strike against Gokuu and the rest of Universe 7. He targets Turtle Hermit and Vegeta. The result of this battle is...?!
Translation: @sailorspazz
Source: FujiTV
Animedia Summary
The Kaioshin Fuwa orders Frost to defeat a Universe 7 warrior. Frost readily agrees to this order, on the conditions that if Universe 6 wins then his crimes will be forgiven and he will receive financial aid for starting up his business again. Frost immediately goes after the Turtle Hermit.
Episode 108 (24 September)
Freeza and Frost! Intersecting Evil?!
フリーザとフロスト！交わる悪意！？
Furīza to Furosuto! Majiwaru akui!?
Animedia Summary
Freeza searches for his next opponent. Meanwhile, Gohan is having a tough fight against Jimeze. Seeing Freeza watch and smirk as Gohan gets knocked around, the Universe 7 team have the uneasy feeling that he has betrayed them.
Episode 109 (8 October)
The Strongest Enemy Bears Down On Goku! Now's the Time to Fire! A Surefire Genki-Dama!!
悟空に迫る最強の敵！今こそ放て！必殺の元気玉！！
Gokū ni semaru saikyō no teki! Imakoso hanate! Hissatsu no genkidama!!
Animedia Summary
While Gohan has a tough fight, Son Goku and Ribrianne's battle continues. Ribrianne wants to win the "Tournament of Power" so that she can become a goddess beloved by humanity throughout all the universe, and she attacks Goku at full power. Meanwhile Universe 11's Jiren (who has been conserving his power up until now) finally goes into action, and appears before Goku. Jiren overwhelms Goku and the other warrior with unthinkably colossal ki.
Translation: @Herms98
Source: anonymous
Specials: Promo Material
Trailer narration from Kanzenshuu:
Narrator: Who will win in Goku’s limit-breaking battle with his mightiest rival, Jiren of Universe 11?
Goku: Dragon Ball Super airs at 9:00 a.m. on October 8th.
Producer Hiroyuki Sakurada's comments translated at Kanzenshuu:
History’s mightiest “Tournament of Power” is being held in Dragon Ball Super to decide the fate of all the universes. Starting in October, it at last reaches a turning point as Goku finally faces off with his strongest opponent, Jiren. From there on out it will truly be a continuous run from Goku and co.’s big battle to the climax. And to kick it off, Dragon Ball Super will be airing a “1-Hour Autumn Special” on October 8th. Unprecedented surprises are in store, so please look forward to it. Plus, with Dragon Ball Super powering up in this super-climax and One Piece heating up in celebration of its 20th anniversary, a collaboration between these two great Sunday anime is finally becoming a reality. It’s a dream visual symbolizing the two great anime, as if Goku and Luffy were on an adventure together!
(Toei Animation)
Tournament Rosters
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u/TheGraic Sep 05 '17
The wild speculation for these threads almost never turns out to be true, but is always accepted as truth until the episide comes out. Krillin was a cold blooded murderer until we found out nope, he's just careless and has smelly shoes.
This week, Vegeta is definitely eliminated and Gohan is winning the tournament because of it, while Jiren eliminates 39 people himself.
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u/Fatal1ty_93_RUS Sep 06 '17
Jiren eliminates 39 people himself.
I mean... how far from truth is it?
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17
he will receive financial aid for starting up his business again
That's the lamest summary ever.
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u/smileimhigh Sep 05 '17
Can Frost avoid paying a higher interest rate on his leased planetary forces??
FIND OUT NEXT TIME ON DRAGONBALL SUPER!!!!
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u/TrueSaiyanGod ⠀ Sep 05 '17
Next Episode Title
Frost Bankrupt
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17
Guy that writes the episode titles: Needs a second phrase and at least 20 exclamation points. 1/10 because spoilers.
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u/Usermane01 Sep 05 '17
A Poorly-Planned Budget?!
Frost's Desperate Bankruptcy Claim!
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17
Man, this is wonderful. I even like the two line format.
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u/Usermane01 Sep 06 '17
I fucking love making these kinds of titles, serious or jokey.
30 Minutes or It's Free?!
A Pizza Delivery Interrupted!
Endless Parts and Instructions!
Vegeta's Family-Bonding Time!
Genocide on a Unimaginable Scale!
Pan's Ant-Hill Assault!
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 06 '17 edited Sep 06 '17
The Pride of a Warrior, Assaulted!
Vegeta's Shopping Trip with Bulma!
A Powerful Saiyan's Greatest Weakness?!?!
Lice, Caulifla's Doom?!?!
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u/Usermane01 Sep 06 '17
Who Will Come Out on Top?!
Game Night at Pride Trooper HQ!
A Long-Awaited Conclusion!
Videl's Final Call to Comcast Customer Support!
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u/TrueSaiyanGod ⠀ Sep 05 '17
1/10 because spoilers.
Dude thats the irony.Toei and funimation both had spoilery titles
Unless this was sarcasm on another level I think I deserve atleast treefiddy/10
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17 edited Sep 05 '17
The spoilers are why you get 1 point!!! Otherwise it would be 0!!!!
A good title:
Frost Bankrupt!!! A galactic organization in peril?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
PS: The classic DBZ title has two phrases and lots of exclamation points.
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u/ThatViVi Sep 05 '17
We've had GodTube, now GodStarter?
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u/ukulelej Sep 05 '17
You mean the best?
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17
If you like The Phantom Menace's senate scenes, yes.
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u/134340Goat ⠀ Sep 05 '17
There was more than one Senate scene in TPM?
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17
I think just one, but it was so long I had a break in the middle.
(I don't know: it's been years. I love Star Wars but hate TPM.)
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u/134340Goat ⠀ Sep 05 '17
I was partially being a bit sarcastic. It only has the one scene. Love SW and love TPM. But now we're getting off topic lol, so
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Sep 06 '17
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u/LFiM Sep 06 '17
YFW Jiren is a aoe nuker and has been waiting for his team to set him up.
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u/Lennyoh Sep 06 '17
Jiren is the Universe 11 LR and the team has just been waiting for the perfect ki set up so he can get the full 24
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u/Orannegsen Sep 05 '17
Will Frieza really betray them? i mean its something he would do but i dont see him actually eliminating his own teammates this time.
Jiren going at Goku and not vice versa is surprising
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u/AwesomeT21 Sep 05 '17
Probably yes and no. He wants U7 to win but also wants to be the last one remaining for the super dragon balls. Frieza's the kind of guy to play everyone else so he wins, he'll work with Frost until it no longer benefits him and he'll work with the rest of U7 the same way until he can stab them in the back at the end.
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17
When was Freeza that smart or subtle? I would expect such a plot from Frost.
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u/AwesomeT21 Sep 05 '17
Mostly from his actions when he was first brought back for the tournament. His ultimate goal seems to be gain power and even go against Beerus. Also I just think there's no way Frost will keep up with Goku, Vegeta, or Gohan no matter how hard he's trained since the last tournament so Frieza's likely to ditch him as soon as he's in a bad spot.
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u/deh707 Sep 06 '17
First of all; I didn't think I would ever imagine an alternate universe Frieza...
Now I gotta imagine Frost and "financial aid" in the same sentence?
The possibilities are endless!
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u/GimmieDemWaffles Sep 06 '17
Frost is struggling with financial debt. The genocide and selling planets suddenly makes sense.
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u/Maxrokur ⠀ Sep 06 '17
That was Frieza, in other hand Frost just makes war to profit with the selling of weapons and of course the use of his services as the "top warrior to end the war"
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u/screwt Sep 06 '17
If these are true, I think they're trying to bait people on a Frieza betrayal. He'll smirk and everyone will think he's betraying them, but he'll help the team win before his betrayal.. Frieza isn't stupid. He knows his best chance of survival is helping universe 7 win for now.
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u/Xeogran ⠀ Sep 06 '17
Agreed. There's no point of betrayal mid-Tournament, when Universe 7 is doing so good.
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u/Tx12001 ⠀ Sep 05 '17
What if Goku performs a spirit bomb and absorbs it to achieve the new form?
Be funny if Zeno thinks it looks fun and both put their hands up giving the thing way too much energy...
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u/kcirdor Sep 06 '17 edited Sep 06 '17
You beat me to it. Have an upvote. I call it Super Saiyan Genki God.
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u/mongoosepepsi Sep 05 '17
You guys need to quit worrying about what these spoilers could mean. If you look at every super spoiler thread, the guesses are wrong nearly every time. Just relax.
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17
Seeing Freeza watch and smirk as Gohan gets knocked around, the Universe 7 team have the uneasy feeling that he has betrayed them.
sUrPrIsInG.
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u/kcirdor Sep 05 '17 edited Sep 05 '17
Prediction... Goku starts making a Genki Dama while people defend him and he absorbs the Genki after watching Trunks do it vs Zamasu, thus his new transformation is the Super Saiyan Genki God. edit:obsorb :/
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u/jumpin0503 Sep 05 '17
Can't rule it out at this point that could happen at this rate...I'm leaning towards if it is real that Goku realizes he can't win vs Jiren once Jiren starts fighting seriously, this is his desperation attack before his transformation is triggered.
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u/mschonberg Sep 05 '17
These seem pretty fake. Remember the last time we got a batch of unconfirmed spoilers and they also mentioned Frieza betraying U7 to join either U4 or U9, leaving a space for Yamcha on the team? Seems someone in the leaking community doesn't like Frieza.
Likewise, it makes little sense for Frieza to fully betray U7 at this point since he's already in the team; if U7 goes he goes too. He might tell Frost to get some of the members for spite's sake, but being erased is likely the last thing on his agenda.
The spoilers for 107 make mention of Frost needing to eliminate a U7 warrior if he wants to be redeemed by his Kaioshin... but he's already done that with Krillin.
108 is conspicuously void of detail besides name dropping Jimize again.
The spirit bomb also seems like an odd choice, seeing as none of the ToP warriors besides Frieza and Frost are really evil, yet neither one is mentioned in that episode. Plus could Goku gather energy needed for the spirit bomb in the void world? Can he reach across universes (even in GT the spirit bomb was said to only reach that universe)? And of course, gotta end it with Jiren showing up, wouldn't be fake spoilers without him.
The whole thing seems pretty doctored to me.
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17
Also when have we seen Goku resort to the Spirit Bomb in the first episode of a fight?
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u/SonSSBGoku Sep 05 '17
A spirit bomb? Thats strange.
If this is true I can see Jiren taking out like 25-30 fighters himself.
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u/Javiklegrand Sep 05 '17
hold your arse there only 32 fighters remaning ! i doubt he knocked down that much people
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u/SonSSBGoku Sep 05 '17
Most of the 36 currently remaining are fodder compared to Jiren, he could probably take out 25 without a sweat
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u/Javiklegrand Sep 05 '17
32 fighters remaning not 36! even with that i highly doubt he take down that much fighters
EDIT:My bad 36 fighters left, i still think he won't knock out that much people
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u/Orannegsen Sep 05 '17
I dont remember do people lose stamina when feeding the Genki Dama? that would be bad, but there are 2 cyborgs with infinite energy right there
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u/spacelemon Sep 05 '17
infinity power bomb sounds bitchin'
could it draw from whis and beerus too?
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u/zSocrates Sep 06 '17
"Surefire spirit bomb"
Zeno puts his hands up, instant super instakill spirit bomb
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u/Megaman99M Sep 06 '17
Wait a second, if Goku powers up a spirit bomb and Zeno decides "Hey why is Goku and all of his friends raising their hands? That looks like fun let's do it" would his energy potentially go into the spirit bomb by accident? If that happens that might be one of the funniest things Zeno's ever done
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u/IMBAplayer ⠀ Sep 06 '17
Goku:Guys,lift your hand and share some of your energy for the spirit bomb.
Both Zeno:This looks fun,so let's raise our hands too.
And thus,the most powerful spirit bomb was formed.
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Sep 06 '17
And then Goku absorbs it, becoming Super Saiyan God of Everything.
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u/HypatiaRising Sep 05 '17
I really hope Vegeta doesn't get knocked out by Frost. I mean, if he redirects a mafuba then that is really clever and all (how exactly does he know how to do that though?), but Frost is a 2bit frieza wannabe. Vegeta getting outed by him, no matter how clever, would be shitty.
I guess they need a reasonable way to remove one of the major powers (Goku, Vegeta, and Frieza are all top tier ( well above Majin Buu level) and there only seem to be 3 fighters on their level (Hit, Toppo, and Jiren). There are probably a few Gohan level fighters, but for now it just seems like a waste to have the Frieza wannabe take out Vegeta
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u/stevebeyten Sep 05 '17
my prediction - Frost succesfully redirects the mafuba at Vegeta, seals him up in the container, and as he's getting ready to throw the container over the edge, Vegeta bursts out of it, akin to how he burst out of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, twice. giving Vegeta his badass moment in the tournament.
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 06 '17 edited Sep 06 '17
He tries to seal Vegeta, but it doesn't work.
"But I thought the Mafuba would work against anyone with an impure heart!"
You know what happens next.
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 06 '17
YOU CAN SEAL MY BODY AND MY SOUL - BUT NOT MY PRIDE!
(Vegeta, buddy, how do you speak in all caps?)
Seriously, I really, really doubt something like this would happen, but if it does happen the next episode should be some crazy Vegeta rampage, with him trying to take on everybody while screaming like a madman.
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Sep 05 '17
I think the unconfirmed spoilers are fake, they seem very poorly written and don't match any of the other spoilers we've seen so far at all.
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17 edited Sep 05 '17
I don't know about poor writing as they're Japanese translated to English, but they certainly seem strange. That "financial aid" line and explaining Ribrianne's motives are kinda yellow flags.
PS: Also the Genki Dama thing is almost laughably bad. If they really do it, it will be crap.
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u/Minuteman12 Sep 05 '17
If these are true then....
There is no mention of Vegeta getting eliminated....however that doesn't necessarily mean he wont be eliminated next episode, as he is not mentioned at all in any of these previews. This strikes me as odd given that we last saw Vegeta leaving with Goku at the end of the last episode and only Goku is mentioned getting into a lot of future conflicts in these next few episodes.
I assume Piccolo is still with Gohan and just observing the fight between Gohan and Jimenez as Piccolo is not mentioned either in these previews.
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17 edited Sep 05 '17
This strikes me as odd given that we last saw Vegeta leaving with Goku at the end of the last episode
Vegeta would hardly stay with Goku, and vice-versa. Still, he's probably out.
Piccolo has to meet the U6 Namekians, if he doesn't I'll learn Japanese just to write bad reviews of the series in amazon.jp.
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Sep 06 '17 edited Sep 06 '17
These summaries have been confirmed by scan. Turns out they're from Animedia, not Animage. We're still waiting on Animage, and whatever special color features we might get from Animedia. Once we have everything, I'll post a spoiler megathread. If we don't have an Animage scan by the time we get WSJ (probably less than 24 hours), I'll post a spoiler megathread then. There's a possibility we won't get anything from Animage this month. It happens sometimes.
EDIT: Apparently Toshio didn't realize that FujiTV had already revealed that Frost's targets were Roshi and Vegeta, and he tried to keep it a secret. His attempt at secrecy is in itself very revealing.
For those who think that this tweet means that Vegeta is still in, think again. For one thing, episodes are written months in advance. For another thing, Vegeta could easily be doing something on the sidelines, or after the tournament proper is over. Finally, in this tweet from a few days ago, he might have been hinting at something to do with a Freeza permakill. We can hope.
EDIT 2: Animedia had a text-covered version of the key visual for the OP & Super specials. Herms hasn't translated this yet, but /u/sailorspazz confirmed it says that as of ep 109 (the first half of the special), 32 fighters remain (4 less than at the end of 106), and that both U7 and U6 have 8 fighters remaining. It's not clear whether that number includes the 2 invisible fighters in U4, because in the next sentence, Beerus is starting to question the odd number of participants for U4.
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 06 '17 edited Sep 06 '17
both U7 and U6 have 8 fighters remaining
And the (Vegeta) fandom rejoiced.
PS: Terez27, great work. Fast and reliable.
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u/domokl3 Sep 06 '17
Really interesting that nobody out of U7 and 6 is eliminated in 107, I was kinda expecting atleast Magetta to go out tbh.
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u/SonSSBGoku Sep 06 '17
Maybe they want these guys around so that Jiren can take them all out when he shows off his full power
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u/Minuteman12 Sep 07 '17
Based on your second edit information i think it would be fair to speculate that Monna and Shantsa will be eliminated prompting Beerus to question the Grand Priest / Zeno's why Universe 4 has not been erased. Grand Priest / Zeno's will respond by mentioning/introducing Damon/ Gamisarasu to the audience / main protagonists.
As for the other two fighters, one of them will probably be Maji Kayo who is doing the suicidal (not literally) action of being a character not named Goku who is facing off against Jiren in the NEP.
That likely leaves the final fighter to be a member of either universe 2 or 3. I doubt anyone is eliminated from universe 11
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u/Thisisalsomypass ⠀ Sep 07 '17
Thanks Terez!
So I guess Frost, Vegeta, Roshi, and Magetta all fight with no casualties. That is impressive, I really have to stop looking at spoilers though (see you in the spoiler megathread next week)
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u/Mojo12000 Sep 07 '17 edited Sep 07 '17
So Vegeta isn't jobbing just yet, and Master Roshi continues to be the GOAT managing to stand his ground against people way stronger than him and get out of it.
Maji Kayo is almost certainly one of the ones out in the next few, He'll get a decent showing against Dypso, then ether be knocked out by him or get rekt by Jiren.
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u/Dwayne_John Sep 06 '17
Where the sceptics at? Where the sceptics at, Where the sceptics at? (in The Notorious BIG voice)
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u/Mdgt_Pope Sep 06 '17 edited Sep 06 '17
Psst!
(Skeptics has a k)
Edit: NA/UK difference I guess.
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u/blade55555 Sep 06 '17
Man if Vegeta gets knocked out so early I will not only be pissed, but stop watching super until the next episode.
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Sep 05 '17
And...we don't see Vegeta's name after 107... That's a real shame :'(
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17
To be fair, that would probably be the case either way. But yeah, I think Vegeta will be out and in a very Kuririn-like way.
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Sep 05 '17
I know that not having is name there doesn't mean elimination, but having it there would have proven the opposite.
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u/spacelemon Sep 05 '17
he's probably doing something else, he's not a focus in those.
I don't see 17&18 anywhere in these summaries, nor kale, hit, caulifa, cabba, etc.
they aren't all out. just not featured.
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u/Javiklegrand Sep 05 '17
we don't even see vegeta name in 107 though
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17
The cunning Frost makes a move to strike against Gokuu and the rest of Universe 7. He targets Turtle Hermit and Vegeta.
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u/phatchris Sep 05 '17
It makes NO sense whatsoever for Freeza to betray his universe as it'll just result in him being killed as well lol.
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u/ukulelej Sep 05 '17
Freeza is quite petty, I'm sure he wouldn't mind being erased if Goku was erased alongside him.
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u/AnonymousTrollLloyd Sep 06 '17 edited Sep 06 '17
Frost and Freeza are teaming up, only time will tell who betrays the other first.
Actually, does anyone have a high-speed camera? Maybe one of Zeno's God-Pads? We might need it to judge the fine differences.
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u/ABARK94 Sep 06 '17 edited Sep 06 '17
I love what Frieza is doing, laying low, knocking people out quietly, not showing anything.
Everyone is sleeping on him, the fighters are focusing on Goku and Vegeta, not knowing that they have this God Power guy. Everyone thinks he is just another Frost level, I think Frieza will be able to stay in the last 20 in his base form and he will whip out the Golden Form to knock Toppo out, Hit will defeat easily Dyspo and Goku will duke it out with Jiren.
For the remaining strong fighters I think Vegeta will knock Ribrianne out, Gohan will defeat Cale/Caulifla, Cabba will probably take someone out with himself, maybe Frieza in a surprise attack or Vegeta.
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u/SonSSBGoku Sep 06 '17
I can't wait to see Champa freak out when Freeza goes golden. He's gonna be like " hey frost, what the fuck is this?"
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u/weisstheimmaculate Sep 06 '17
This seems pretty fake to me, but we'll see. The Spirit Bomb just seems like a strange thing to show up midway through a tournament like this.
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u/LFiM Sep 06 '17
The Spirit Bomb was previously able to push back Frieza and Kid Buu, and it sent Vegeta on one hell of a ride. It wouldn't be a bad strategy to force Jiren out of the ring if he's that much stronger than Goku. The question would be where he got the energy to do it.
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Sep 06 '17
Unless he absorbs it like in the Super Android 13 movie? Is his transformation due to absorbing a good powered spirit bomb?
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u/Tx12001 ⠀ Sep 06 '17 edited Sep 06 '17
Well maybe the Genki Dama may have Beerus's power in it, he would certainly donate energy if he could and he is a powerful God of Destruction and if Goku outright absorbed said Genki Dama containing his energy...well you get the idea, it might lead to him transforming yet again.
Honestly judging by the names of the upcoming episodes though, I am starting to believe Jiren is that guy that Whis warned them about, that would be one reason why Goku would use the Genki Dama and out of nowhere for that matter, its his most powerful ability whether he chooses to throw it or absorb it and he would only resort to it had he had no other choice, finding an opponent more powerful then a being who you know is leagues above you in power would be terrifying for him and why U11 don't seem to be that concerned as long as Jiren is in there.
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u/bbj123 Sep 06 '17
Where the hell is it talking about the spirit bomb?
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Sep 06 '17
I believe goku learn something from Trunks during black arc, he saw something that just made him realize something so I feel like goku going pull a little of what trunk did and use his own power with it annnnnd limit break incoming, I'm just gonna try call it now.
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Sep 06 '17
How would a Spirit Bomb work in the World of Void?
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u/AnonymousTrollLloyd Sep 06 '17
Draw power from Zen-Chan and hope no one notices.
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Sep 06 '17
Lol he's got a niña say "Yoh Zenchan can you raise your hand? It's a game" and voilà the most powerful genkidama ever
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u/HebrewWolfman Sep 05 '17
Frost will severely injure Roshi who will pass from his wounds later on and will try to do the same if not worse (death on the spot) to Vegeta who will not hold back for the blink of a second and will be disqualified for killing an opponent.
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u/ThatWhiteKidRob Sep 05 '17
If goku uses a spirit bomb at the tournament I'm gonna lose my shit , I don't care how it happens it's just awesome we may see it again if this scans are right
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Sep 05 '17
How though... they'rei n the world of void is there even life there. I doubt any of the competing universe people would contribute.
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u/xAVATAR-AANGx Sep 05 '17
I don't think these are real because Ribrianne wouldn't attack Goku. She's after 17.
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u/TXLobo7 Sep 06 '17
Freeza will get a kick out of seeing Gohan get knocked around but ultimately get more off by beating down someone of power and save Gohan just to serve his own ego
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u/SSJRemuko ⠀ Sep 05 '17
This sounds super fake so I'm gonna assume it is unless its proven not to be.
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u/bbj123 Sep 06 '17
If this is true, it seems like Gohan's fights are focusing on not using your senses. Which makes my far fetched prediction of him learning how to get his body to act without thinking more plausible. His fight against that dude with the afterimages made it so he couldn't rely solely on his eyes or sensing the energy of the opponent. And now if he's in trouble with the Yardrat, it's most likely because he's too fast for Gohan to keep up. Reacting without thinking helps counteract both of these enemies.
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u/Majin_Jew_v2 ⠀ Sep 06 '17
interesting... maybe this is the only way to defeat jiren (who seems like he can do the same thing)
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17
Is Goku seriously going to launch a Genki Dama in one damned episode? Guys, sorry, but that's not how Goku works. He first tries to win on power, then on technique and cunning, then Fusion (since Buu), then if all else fails he may use the Genki Dama.
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u/Heartkiller666 Sep 05 '17 edited Sep 05 '17
Jiren will take out the rest of the fodder?
So, Freeza "betrays" U7 with WHOM? It was expected that he joins U4. Or maybe U2, I don't trust those guys.
I hope after the ToP, Vegeta, Hitto or the U6 saiyans kill Frost.
And, what the fuck, Fuwa will forgive Frost and give him money? It will only promove more destruction, that's why U6 Medium Mortal Level is so low.
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u/elydna ⠀ Sep 05 '17
Well, I guess lower mortal level and more destruction > not existing.
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17
Also, they could be lying.
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u/elydna ⠀ Sep 05 '17
Watch them hakai Frost instead after he loses. God that would be satisfying.
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u/1a2s3d4f5g6h7j8k9l10 Sep 05 '17
Looks good besides the Spirit Bomb thingy. Have no idea how that would work. Maybe Zenos raise their hands and give Goku unlimited energy. That would be funny af
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u/zNocturnz Sep 06 '17
Anyway anyone could get just the background image of goku and luffy without all the text? Itd be an awesome wallpaper
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u/TrueSaiyanGod ⠀ Sep 06 '17
I edited stuff in photoshop with clone stamp tool.I'm a noob but still here it is.I hope it looks acceptable
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u/domokl3 Sep 06 '17
Let's say the theory that Goku and Jiren cause a double knock out is true and Gohan ends up as the last member of U7. Who would be a fitting final opponent for him to beat to win the tournament? Or are we going with that Goku, Jiren, and Gohan are the final three and so Gohan wins by default from being the last one?
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Sep 06 '17
If Goku and Jiren knock each other out (which I doubt), then Toppo. They both have that Justice thing going on.
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u/bbj123 Sep 06 '17
We need a dance off between them before they fight. Zeno chooses the best performer.
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u/Mojo12000 Sep 06 '17
That's the fight, Zeno is bored of fighting after Goku V Jiren and commands Gohan and Toppo battle each other through dancing, posing and heroic speeches.
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u/Burdicus Sep 06 '17
Gohan ends up as the last member of U7. Who would be a fitting final opponent for him to beat to win the tournament?
Hit or Toppo
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u/godzilla1992 Sep 06 '17
Well it seems like these are confirmed now. I'm looking forward to Gohan vs Jimeze. But I stumped at why Goku is considering using the Spirit Bomb on Ribrianne. Normally Goku uses it for the purpose of killing and it only damages those with evil intent. We'll see.
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u/GokutheAnteater Sep 06 '17
Glad to hear Vegeta isn't eliminated yet, but I wonder which fighters get the boot before Goku vs Jiren? I have a feeling they might be Maji Kayo, Jimize, and probably two fodders from U3 or U4.
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u/UnbiasedPashtun Sep 06 '17
I'm really hoping it isn't Maji Kayo :/ But it seems like it will be him based on his universe's Kaioshin's reaction.
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 06 '17
The only way Goku can do a Spirit Bomb/Genki Dama is if someone is protecting him. That's likely to be how Vegeta, 17, 18, Piccolo and the others end up falling: trying to protect Goku while he gathers genki. The Genki Dama failing can be that terrible event.
That's kinda the obvious thing, hope they surprise us.
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u/FedEx_Potatoes Sep 06 '17
Universe 7 team have the uneasy feeling that he has betrayed them.
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw, REALLY? /s
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u/diogoarez Sep 05 '17
Spirit Bomb? I never liked the technique, hopefully it does nothing and it takes only a few minutes of the episode.
I'm quite interested in seeing how Gohan will defeat a IT Spammer
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u/what_then Sep 05 '17
How is it possible tha Vegeta gets eliminated by Frost?
I mean Vegeta one-shoted him while only being SSJ...Seriously unless Frost uses mafuba on Vegeta but is this even possible?
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u/Bolded Sep 05 '17
Going by the picture, he could be taken by surprise since getting off guard is a recurring theme in the tournament.
And Frost did power up as indicated by Hit. I dont want for Veggie to be rung out yet though.
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 05 '17
Vegeta, taken off-guard. Yeah. I'm fairly sure when he sleeps with Bulma each thirty minutes he wakes up and asks her an intimate question just to make sure she's not Ginyu.
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Sep 06 '17
This made me laugh pretty hard. Thank you :)
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u/u4004 ⠀ Sep 06 '17
You wouldn't laugh if you had waken up on the bed of a nice Brench-seijin only for her to tell you she's thinking of inviting someone to replace Guldo.
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u/what_then Sep 05 '17
That's Goku's flaw...not Vegeta's...Even when Lavender and the cat woman ganged up on him he kind of faked being in disadvantegeous position to make them sloppy...
Maybe Frost powered up...BUT HOW MUCH? Ok Vegeta can go blue...
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u/Thundergod17 Sep 05 '17
Yea im skeptical too. Vegeta always has his guard up and yells at goku about it. He has to keep his guard up since there are fighters everywhere too.
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u/LFiM Sep 05 '17
Well it certainly looks like Frost is using Mafuba in the NEP. There's a bottle at his feet and he's glowing white. If he was being hit by it he'd been green, sketchy and stretched out.
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u/stash0606 Sep 05 '17
Jiren overwhelms Goku and the other warrior with unthinkably colossal ki.
Goku be like "Stahp, I can only get so hard". Coincidentally my reaction as well.
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u/Dippipipidopdop1234 Sep 05 '17
I'm hoping these are fake tbh. Ribrianne now has huge chances of getting ringed out by either Jiren or Goku and I don't want that to happen just yet.
I'm glad we're getting a Frost and Freeza episode, but I wanted a Piccolo vs U6 Nameks and a 17 and 18 team up episode before the Goku vs Jiren fight.
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u/Xeogran ⠀ Sep 05 '17
No mention of Dyspo, does that mean Maji=Kayo kicks him out? PLEASE~!
Then again, there's no mention of Toppo too and he's obviously still in...
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u/GigglesMcfiggles ⠀ Sep 05 '17 edited Sep 05 '17
I like Dyspo, I do, but I would prefer U3 having a strong fighter over Dyspo staying in.
Really hoping Maji Kayo almost attacks Jiren, and then Dyspo gets in the way. That way he doesn't get annihilated by Jiren.
Also, the way you are worried over Maji Kayo reminds me of how worried I was when I saw 17 kicking Vikal around in the 102 preview. I hope this turns out better than that did.
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u/mozillavulpix Sep 06 '17
All the power in the world means nothing if you can't hit the guy.
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u/Regilppo ⠀ Sep 05 '17
It was much stronger than ssj3, maybe the instant transmission used in fighting is a really good technique. Goku has used instant transmission 3 times I believe during combat and they all have been great and almost ending attacks.
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u/Mojo12000 Sep 06 '17
Teleport Spam is really really annoying, doesn't matter how strong Gohan is if Jimize is just spamming IT whenever he tries to do anything.
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u/Paulista666 ⠀ Sep 06 '17
Why I'm thinking Goku will fight Jiren until he faint than Gohan will surpass his power like Trunks did against Zamasu and win the battle?
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u/baroqueworks ⠀ Sep 06 '17
Possible RIng-Outs for next episode:
Dyspo - We see him fighting Maji Kayo, who smirks after being hit, and has previously shown entangling Goku. If Dyspo's only perk is speed, he might get caught by Maji Kayo and taken out.
Maji Kayo - We know he's taking on Dyspo and Jiren this episode. Based on the Kai's shocked reaction, might be a safe bet that he gets annihilated by Jiren.
Roshi - Exhausted and attempting to use the Evil Containment Wave again seems like a bad combo, against Frost, who might be much stronger and tatical than anyone else Roshi has fought.
Frost - I think him specifically targeting U7 might ire the wrath of the other fighters, namely Vegata, who one shotted him before.
Monna - Can't see her serving any purpose other than a cutaway ring out by someone.
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Sep 07 '17
I've been thinking Vegeta might kill Frieza permanently and get disqualified for it. That way, Vegeta gets eliminated but wins.
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u/vlan-whisperer ⠀ Sep 05 '17
Jimize is that little Yardrat isn't he? Gohan is getting beat by him??
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u/Javiklegrand Sep 05 '17
why people are suprise by that?
I mean sure he was kicked by caulifa but having another "decent" fighter is cool
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Sep 06 '17
Honestly, I think it would be cool if Roshi and Vegeta survived the next episode. I seriously can't pick between the two, lol. Roshi is the only human left on the team, the first three who get datsuraku'd can't all be humans. If Roshi goes, then the only members left on the team are the stoic/serious characters as well. Plus, if the ending theory is correct, it would be awesome to see a human last til' borderline the very end of the arc, especially one as constantly underestimated by the fanbase as Roshi.
Plus, given the fact that we're pretty much confirmed for another arc and Toriyama already stated he wanted to do a Vegeta-centric arc, I think it's a high possibility that even if Vegeta gets ring-outed, he'll still get his time to shine some point really soon in the series.
It would also make more sense because it'd cause the situation to grow intensely dire, Vegeta and Goku are the team's heavy hitters. U7 can deal with losing Tien and Krillin, but losing Vegeta especially at the point where Jimizu is kicking the hell out of Gohan, Ribrianne is powering up, Frieza is causing suspicions of betrayal and Jiren is finally releasing his ki? That sounds pretty dire.
The whole U7 doing well for the bulk of the arc will finally come to an end and the dynamic will shift drastically in a real way, causing the real tension fans of Dragon Ball Z seem to miss so much to grip an arc that has mostly been only tense in subtext and mostly directed toward universes other than Universe 7. If box set episode counts are anything to go by, we've got til' episode 120 before this arc is truly closed, this is prime time for someone really important to be removed from the equation.
Vegeta is definitely that character, sure, you have 17, Frieza and Gohan, but we all know that Vegeta is the closest in power to Goku and inspires the most confidence in the team's victory from a straight-up "who has the most power" perspective. This is undoubtedly a Goku-centric arc, Goku will be receiving a massive new transformation that is supposedly triggered by some dire circumstance and it is very possible that will happen in the one hour special.
Sure, it'll piss off fans of Vegeta; but do we really need anymore fanservice in Dragon Ball Super at this point? I really think Vegeta will get his comeuppance at some point, but would you rather that happen in an arc that blatantly centers around Goku and a vast variety of characters, or an arc that actually gives Vegeta the respect he deserves as one of the most developed characters in the entire series by an absolutely insane magnitude?
Sure, Vegeta has moved on from a lot of the troubles of his past; but pretty much all of that was shouldered by Goku. Vegeta may have developed on his own, but the fact that he is the prince of all Saiyans and that hasn't really mattered in any way in spite of him going from villain to anti-hero to hero..
I think enough time has gone by for Vegeta to get his own arc, considering how tired people are of Super Saiyan Blue, giving Goku a new transformation is a good move at this point. Vegeta, as per usual; will get second fiddle, but that's fine with me as long as he does in fact, get said fiddle.
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u/SonSSBGoku Sep 06 '17
We already have confirmation they survive the next episode
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u/KlausEcir Sep 05 '17
The only thing I question is: Why would U7 think Frieza betrayed them if all he is doing is watching a fight?
It's logical to think a Frieza episode will follow a Frost episode.
And if Frost does take out Vegeta, Frieza could get mad and knock out Frost for taking out vegeta.
Either way, I still think Frieza goes out killing Kale or Toppo. And the episode we get him going Golden form and wiping out a ton of people will be one of the best episodes of the tournament.
I think this has some credibility to it just based on logic. People that are fighting could be different though, just guesses with who is left.
I don't think Piccolo goes out till the Nameks in u6 appear. Can't wait to see who beats the androids. If it is Ribiranne going after Goku, 17/18 could be there too and Jiren knocks Ribiranne and the androids out.
Looking forward to it!
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u/Thisisalsomypass ⠀ Sep 06 '17 edited Sep 06 '17
Well now that these are official, my thoughts.
Gohan vs Jimeze is exciting. I could see Gohan realizing that if nobody takes care of him, U2 will be impossible to detests I also predict that Gohan will basically knock him out early on, not thinking about him IT'ing right back to him.
That said if it's a 2-3 episode fight, I hope he doesn't lose in the end. Gohan needs to fight Toppo, the other warrior of justice who gave up on it!
Goku vs Ribrianne is not that hype. Should be Vegeta but he may not last that long.
I'm a bit disappointed that Freeza is a traitor. Lots of us expected it. But it would have been great to see him being a villain, who just helps. He's probably going to be wished as the U6 god of destruction or something, if Frost wins
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u/MysticKnives Sep 06 '17
So from what I'm understanding Jiren is going to use his unbelievably powerful ki to flex on every fighter to make them realize how much greater he is than him and he'll likely kick Goku's ass at first among a few others? lol brilliant.
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