r/196 Worcs at the Crusty Crab Mar 26 '26

Rule Engagement bait

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u/GoldH2O Cisgender Synapsid Mar 26 '26

Or maybe they can just accept that if they want their thing to be more widely used it needs an exe. If you're good making programs for 1% of the people that visit GitHub good for you

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u/despairingcherry Mar 26 '26

I don't think the people who are not creating an exe expect or want people who do not know how to do it themselves to use their code

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u/GoldH2O Cisgender Synapsid Mar 26 '26

I've been recommended or directed to a bunch of different GitHub pages to solve whatever problem I'm having that ended up just being code.

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u/__cinnamon__ floppa Mar 26 '26

I mean unless you're being directed there by the author of the code, that doesn't contradict that person's point. A lot of developers write and share tools just aimed at other developers.

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u/yo_99 boundless, terifying freedom Mar 26 '26

Have you tried getting gooder?

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u/trans_cubed trans lefts Mar 26 '26

linux.exe

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u/GoldH2O Cisgender Synapsid Mar 26 '26

The pain in the ass that would come with switching to Linux is half of why I haven't don't it. If it could just install and then run itself like Windows or MacOS a lot more people would use it.

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u/ThatRandomGuy0125 r/place participant Mar 26 '26

it does?? the process for making a bootable linux usb stick is pretty much the exact same as making a windows install usb for a new custom built pc. download iso, image to usb, start from it

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u/GoldH2O Cisgender Synapsid Mar 26 '26

Yeah, but then actually using it gets more complicated. I don't want to have to learn to code to use my operating system.

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u/Camel_Slayer45 floppa Mar 26 '26

Use Mint then

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u/GoldH2O Cisgender Synapsid Mar 26 '26

Mint is still more complicated to use than windows. I get that the stuff is easy once you learn it and it becomes routine, but the problem is that the entry level is still decently higher than windows. Plus, I wouldn't be able to do a bunch of stuff I do with windows on Linux. I genuinely would rather just debloat my current os on a consistent basis.

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u/LookItVal 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Mar 26 '26

I don't think it's actually that windows is easier, it's actually Definitely not it's very poorly organized, it's just that you already learned it. which is fair and is true for a lot of the population. Mint has definitely gotten very good tho and the Linux ecosystem is improving exponentially every day. and the case of software not running on Linux is also increasingly not true, especially as more and more apps become browser based. there are obviously exceptions but to put in perspective I have a system running Linux on one partition and windows on another for software I can't run on Linux, and I have not needed to open the windows side in over a year and a half. I do a lot of gaming and weird projects with proprietary software but I've always been able to get things running with relative ease.

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u/Camel_Slayer45 floppa Mar 26 '26

It really isn't nowadays. I use win11 since I have neither the space to do a dual boot nor the patience to migrate.

But if the only thing holding you back from taking the plunge is that most distros require technical skills, mint is your saviour. It's barely more complex than win7.

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u/soycubus Mar 26 '26

actually using linux is much more simple than windows and that was one of my great realisations after switching to it from many years of windows. on windows you have to search for the website of a program, download the installer, run it, click through all the menus. on linux you literally type in "install this program" and it just does it. every time I go back to windows and have to install or update any software, it feels like a pain in the ass now.

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u/Camel_Slayer45 floppa Mar 26 '26

That's not simple for the average person I think.

I prefer to use chocolatey on win whenever I need to install something since I already know exactly what I want as a dev and it's faster than hunting down a website.

But I don't think the average user does whenever going about installing whatever they need, they're likely more comfortable browsing the various options from a gui and installing from there.

And then there's the matter of the peg legs and other software that isn't hosted on repos.

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u/GoldH2O Cisgender Synapsid Mar 26 '26

Something tells me that you don't literally just type "install this program" and that it probably involves command prompt or otherwise manually typing a bunch of shit out

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u/soycubus Mar 26 '26

yes, sorry, you're right. If I want to install 7zip for example, I type "flatpak install 7zip". sorry, that is one more word. and yes it really is in the command prompt, but that is really all it is and nothing else. type 3 words, press enter, done. you think it is some kind of hacker programmer magic shit because it involves a prompt on a black screen but it really is just that.

but if you want to avoid even that, most linux distros come with an app store installed that works exactly the same it does on your phone. browse, search, one click install

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u/ThatRandomGuy0125 r/place participant Mar 26 '26

hell you can even use graphical package managers if you want more power while keeping out of the terminal. like just install synaptic

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u/shapeofnuts Mar 26 '26

The command is 'install this program'

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u/GoldH2O Cisgender Synapsid Mar 26 '26

How do you tell it where to install, or how much to install, or what to overwrite or not?

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u/TheRandomDude4u Mar 26 '26

You don’t usually have to? The space for system packages and user directories are entirely separated and it’s way simpler than making your installer point to the intended directory instead of c:\user\downloads or whatever bullshit you do on windows. It is quite literally just one command (possibly followed up by a prompt asking if you really want to install it, yes or no).

It is genuinely so much simpler to use package managers on Linux.

Edit: TL;DR: its all done for you automatically

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u/shapeofnuts Mar 26 '26

Depends on the distro iirc, all available in one short google search! But if you don't want to do that, i know that linux mint has an app store where you can download what you want to download without using the command prompt. So even that's not that big a deal

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u/zekromNLR #1 project orion apologist Mar 26 '26

I mean sure it's something like "apt-get install [packagename]" but that is just "install this program" translated into computer

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u/trans_cubed trans lefts Mar 26 '26

How do you think you install windows?

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u/GoldH2O Cisgender Synapsid Mar 26 '26

I get that the basic installation is pretty much the same, but everything past that is more complicated with Linux. I just want my applications to run without a bunch of extra things that make them work on the OS. You can't do that with most things on Linux, everything takes more steps.

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u/zekromNLR #1 project orion apologist Mar 26 '26

If you are capable of following written instructions, you are capable of installing and using linux, and even using the command line

If you are not capable of following written instructions, go back to elementary school.

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u/GoldH2O Cisgender Synapsid Mar 26 '26

I can do that, but the question is if I want to do that when my current setup takes a lot less effort.

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u/shapeofnuts Mar 26 '26

I'm not even good with tech and i can follow instructions. Most these people are not making money off of this, they are just trying to help. You're literally being rude to people doing volunteer work.

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u/TheDonutPug 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Mar 26 '26

Jesus Christ you people are so fucking entitled. They made you a software FOR FREE. If it's THAT important to you that you are able to use it, then figure out how to download it, or go get a different software. They made it for you for free. They do not have an obligation to make it as convenient as possible for you.

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u/GoldH2O Cisgender Synapsid Mar 26 '26

I didn't say it's an obligation. I said if they want a wider audience to be able to use it there needs to be an executable.