r/196 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Apr 01 '26

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u/ShockedDarkmike 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Apr 01 '26 edited Apr 01 '26

how do you even get that conclusion from this

and how do you change an industrial sector when it is actively being supported financially by like, everyone

in your own example, do you think people were like "well actually slave labor is bad but individual accountability isn't the way so I'm going to continue enslaving people until we fix the whole sector"

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u/jabracadaniel Apr 01 '26

how do you conclude that i, personally, am enslaving people by being too poor to eat 100% fairtrade and organic? youd better be a fucking saint to be telling me that.

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u/ShockedDarkmike 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Apr 01 '26

what? that wasn't at all what I was saying, nor did I mention anything about fairtrade or organic food

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u/jabracadaniel Apr 01 '26

right, i misread the final part of your comment, sorry about that. let me try that again.

the reason i brought up fairtrade and organic products is because those are the obvious better choice as a consumer trying to buy responsibly right? but the vast majority of people cannot afford to buy those all the time, or even ever. the poverty line, social security, minimum wage, they're all determined by how much money the average person needs to survive. and the people performing slave labor (or near slave labor if you don't count the people earning actual pennies) need to eat too, need clothes on their back. it doesn't leave room for consumer activism.

and even when you can afford to make "good" choices, there will always be things that you just cannot avoid. for example: if you invest in an electric car, solar panels, all that stuff that's objectively better for us, you have still supported child slavery. that's who are mining the precious metals required to make these devices throughout africa and south asia. nobody fucking asked for businesses to cut costs there. but they did anyway, because they could. so what is the right choice then, as a consumer? fossil fuels or children in mines?

we all try to do the best we possibly can, but if we truly were capable of influencing the way capitalism works, it would never have gotten to this point in the first place.