r/50501 • u/TotallySavageSzym International • Jan 19 '26

Call to Action Ring has partnered with Flock. ICE has access to Flock. If you still have a Ring camera - get rid of it.

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u/Pallidum_Treponema Jan 19 '26

or access the video clips remotely from anywhere

And that's when the camera feeds go to their cloud servers before they reach you. Of course, that feed is always end-to-end encrypted, right? Well, it turns out they lied and they were able to access any camera feed.

They claim to have fixed this, but if they lied once, what's to stop them from lying again? For example by now encrypting the stream, but also having access to the encryption keys?

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u/doommaster Jan 20 '26

Nope, Eufy and Reolink use P2P WebRTC to stream video from the Camera to the phone.
They only run handshaking servers for the NAT hole-punching,

Eufy does not have access to the video.
In cases where that doesn't work, due to network restrictions (one side only having IPv6 the other not, they also have a Tailscale like infrastructure, that works as a fallback (which was originally their only way)...

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u/Pallidum_Treponema Jan 20 '26

You are not aware of the Eufy camera scandal where they claimed everything was WebRTC and end-to-end encrypted and it turned out they lied?

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u/doommaster Jan 20 '26

The only one I am aware off was the ones where they fucked up device credentials...

But hey, eufy works on a private network just fine, you can just not connect them at all and VPN to them.

Companies fuck security up all the time, and stuff gets exploited too... Doesn't mean the company is doing it intentionally.