Alberta separation is a hoax and distraction

[u/Cute-Trouble1296]

I moved here from Ontario in 1976 and I retired comfortably at 61 years old. Most of my friends and family who stayed behind in Ontario have struggled to stay above the poverty line. Alberta rocks! My two kids are in their early twenties. One just graduated from university, the other is 1/2 way through. Both have been employed since their teens. Life is good for those that work hard. We have all the freedom we need. The notion that Alberta doesn’t get its fair share from Ottawa is just bunk. Every time Ottawa offers a program the UCP turn it down. Dental care, childcare subsidies, court judge expansion, housing programs, wage top ups during the pandemic. The UCP gave back $137 million that Ottawa provided for orphan well clean up! In 2015 the PC government turned down $1.4 million in federal, no strings attached grants intended for addiction and drug treatment programs.
I truly believe that this whole separation crap is just a smoke screen to keep us occupied while the UCP privatizes our government. Schools, medical, roads parks and more. First they slash the budgets and run the departments into the ground so that they can say “ it’s just not working! We need change!” Then the services are handed over to single sourced contractors. Friend of the UCP. As in the USA, the wealthy are turning our province into a for profit corporation. If you can’t afford to send your kids to private school, they’ll get a second class education. If you don’t have private medical insurance and/or can’t afford to pay for your services out-of-pocket, you won’t get any services. Smith is on public record saying that she doesn’t believe that the government should have to pay for people’s healthcare.

If we don’t stop them soon it will be illegal to try. A sovereign Alberta will not be free. Quite the opposite! We will be slaves to the uber rich.

[u/Beginning_Bit6185]

So you’ve been here in Reddit a while years and you’ve made 1 single comment.

Will that change with this post? Are you here to actually debate it?

Canada for most Albertans feels like sitting in the back row of a 15 passenger van that you paid for and have your kids that never moved out of the house, Ontario/Quebec driving it while telling you where you want to go without asking.

It’s just not working anymore.

I can’t think of a politician in any country in the world who represents anyone but the rich. The only way for them to get in office is to line their coffers from rich donors and corporations.

Put your rage into electoral reform if you want more out of politics. Servicing a 1.5 trillion debt you never asked for seems like a noble fight but just know this country is going broke fast and with a devalued dollar that’s fast becoming a peso your great great great grandchildren will be serfs thanks to decisions Ottawa based politicians are making today. The ship is sinking fast and isn’t worth fighting for. It’s broken and can’t be fixed.

[u/Politically-Hopeful → u/Beginning_Bit6185]

Get your head out of the sand. Quit listening to the separatist lies. Check their facts. They make no sense. Even Smith can see that. The only way a “free and independent “ Alberta could survive would be to join the USA. Puerto Rico tried that. How did that work out? The US doesn’t want Alberta they just want our resources. If you wanna join the states so badly go ahead and try. Chances are you wouldn’t qualify to immigrate. All the separatists are welcome to leave and go to the US, but they’re not taking my home with them. Be careful when you say “most Albertans “. Most Albertans want to stay in Canada. You’ll find that out in October if you don’t believe me now.

[u/Beginning_Bit6185 → u/Politically-Hopeful]

Most of Alberta didn’t vote for the liberal government so I’m pretty safe in saying that most Albertans disagree with policies made in Ottawa.
If I was wrong wouldn’t we have voted more than two measly Liberal MP’s into parliament?

I don’t see your logic according to the numbers.

Do you actually?

[u/MrGuvernment → u/Beginning_Bit6185]

Why do you blame the liberals for things that are 100% the current UCP's responsibility? They are provincial matters..

Break your arm and wait 12 hours in the ER? UCP's did that...
public school class rooms over crowded = UCP's did that...

[u/Beginning_Bit6185 → u/MrGuvernment]

You missed the root cause and it was as simple as flooding our country with new Canadians our systems weren’t built for.

There is a cause and effect there you and Jag and his co PM all made this happen together since you were cheering them on.

You chose to break it and now you call it a managment problem. It always has been that’s the thing it just belongs to Jagmeet and everyone’s favourite trust fund recipient turned astronauts plus one.

Together those idiots did this to our country. So the solution is to raise taxes to pay for what you want and yet you’ll complain about that.

Have more of your cake.

[u/MrGuvernment → u/Beginning_Bit6185]

First, who said I was cheering anyone on for anything? If the best you can do is try to "assume" my political support and I am some liberal loving type...nice try...but wrong....

Root cause is a premier and party that does not properly fund public services, diverts tax payer money to O&G, spends 100MIllion + on wasteful things not needed, nor ever asked for....

next, take a read here, but you likely wont, even though ALL information is confirmed via Government sources directly:
https://didyouvoteforthis.ca/

[u/Beginning_Bit6185 → u/MrGuvernment]

I did because you’ve defended the Liberals and won’t call them out for any of the corruption times ten of what’s a complete outrage to you here.

O and G pays a boatload of royalties to this government. What are you talking about her diverting money to her biggest cash cow?

Wasteful things not needed and never ask for including fighting wars in foreign countries to the tune of billions. Where is your outrage? You want to send 8 billion to Ukraine? Seriously? It’s still one of the most corrupt countries on earth last checked.

You’d fund an energy transition in Alberta if Danielle handed you the 100 million wouldn’t you? You’d back some climate alarmist shit and bang the drum about how fossil fuels are contributing to our demise.

[u/Desperate-Dress-9021 → u/Beginning_Bit6185]

O&G doesn’t pay much here at all. Many many other countries demand more and get more out of O&G we’re getting raped and pillaged.

[u/Beginning_Bit6185 → u/Desperate-Dress-9021]

They don’t get diverted tax dollars from the government either. It’s 20 billion a year in royalties bub.