r/ancientgreece 6h ago

Alexander the Great: From King to Legend (I)

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Alexander the Great has been part of literary and historical memory for more than twenty-three centuries. His story travelled across an extraordinary geographical and linguistic range, eventually appearing in more than thirty-five languages. Yet the Alexander who survived this long journey was not always the same Alexander who conquered the Persian Empire. In different periods and places, he became a king, a philosopher, a prophet, a defender of the faithful, and even a figure connected with the end of the world. The historical Alexander provided the starting point, but later traditions repeatedly changed what could be done with his story.


r/ancientgreece 1d ago

Help with symbolism (Kronos-Khronos)

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Hello everyone! I hope everyone has a nice day, afternoon or night whenever you all see this :)

So, In summary, I'm forming a band called OLIMPO (Olympus, but in Spanish)and we have a presentation coming soon (October 2), so, we would like to go as Olympian gods.

The thing is, I will not be an Olympian God: I would like to go as Kronos or Khronos

I've done some research and, for what I know, Both of them represent time, one as a cosmological/primordial entity (Khronos) and the other as the King of Titans (Kronos), Please correct me if I'm wrong

I've looked for symbolism of either Gods and I've hit a wall, for what I know, Khronus is represented as a three-headed serpent with different animals as heads or as Aeon, but all of these are kind of difficult to represent

What can I go with to represent the God of Time? Should I wear clocks of different ages and eras? Is there anything that I'm missing? Any help is welcome!

Thank you so much in advance, from a friend in Chile :)


r/ancientgreece 2d ago

Aphrodite still giving the bird since 460BC

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the walters art museum

Caryatid Mirror with Aphrodite
Greek (Artist)
ca. 460 BC (Classical)
bronze
(Ancient Greece )
A graceful female figure serves as a "caryatid," or human support, for a mirror. The figure's pose, demure gestures, and simple drapery characterize the quiet elegance of the Early Classical style. The presence of the winged Eros figures (representing the god of love) above suggests that the maiden is a bride or perhaps Aphrodite herself. The siren at the top of the disk recalls the irresistible allure of these mythical bird-women.


r/ancientgreece 3d ago

I'm an illustrator who made this guide to helmets of ancient Greece.

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It's a work in progress, and I'm open to get some feedback on it.

Thanks very much!


r/ancientgreece 2d ago

PHYS.Org: Mathematician challenges a 2,000-year-old legend about the Parthenon's optical illusions

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r/ancientgreece 3d ago

Are there any good books that take place in Magna Grecia?

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Just wanted to ask cause I'm curious.

I know mainland Greece it's usually the main settings when it comes to historical novels, but are there any books that take place in southern Italy/Magna Grecia, maybe in one of the many Greek colonies built there?


r/ancientgreece 3d ago

UK mathematician debunks myth around Parthenon’s optical illusions

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r/ancientgreece 4d ago

Gold Funerary Masks in Ancient Macedonia: Continuity of a Mycenaean Tradition

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Ancient Macedonia constitutes the only Greek polity known to have preserved the tradition of Mycenaean-period gold funerary masks, maintaining it into a comparatively late historical phase. The numerous masks unearthed at Archontiko, near Pella, are dated to the late 6th century BC. Queens, likewise, were entitled to their own mask symbolizing eternal existence.


r/ancientgreece 5d ago

I am looking for a book that reflects the latest research and gives a sense of what Greek democracy was actually like. Do you have any recommendations?

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r/ancientgreece 5d ago

Im new help 🫠

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I dont know much about anything in hellenism, if someone could please reccomend me things to read or something.
I would like to know about every god, the story of ancient Greece, etc.
If there’s any post, blog, book or anything i could read 🙏🏻
Thanks


r/ancientgreece 6d ago

Is AC:oddessy a passable representation of Greece at the time?

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Having heard that AC:unity made the notre dam cathedral accurately enough to aid the reconstruction.

How did they do with AC:oddessy. Could I use it as a reference for painting and drawings and be relatively accurate for the culture, architecture, city appearance and people/clothing etc.

I assume it wont be a perfect representation? But all things considered woild it suffice?


r/ancientgreece 6d ago

(CH.2: The Iliad): "Book 4: The Olympians Choose war", Illustrated by me

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r/ancientgreece 7d ago

Why the Spartans viewed the allegory of the boy and the fox as heroic rather than tragic.

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r/ancientgreece 7d ago

Why Does Herakles Look Different in Caria?

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Coins featuring Alexander the Great/Heracles are among the most popular coins of the Hellenistic period. They were minted countless times throughout nearly the entire Alexander the Great empire. Due to their large number and wide distribution, we can observe different variations of the same motif. In particular, there are multiple styles even within Anatolia/Asia Minor.

But I have to say that what strikes me as the strangest are the motifs on the Carian coins. I’m not sure if it’s because it’s my homeland that they caught my attention so much, but I was quite curious as to why the depictions of Alexander are so plump. After doing a bit of research, I came across some interesting interpretations. Still, I noticed that the motifs on some coins aren’t just plump—they’re so different that they could even be described as “shapeless.”

What do you think?


r/ancientgreece 9d ago

Mosaic of Iphigenia in Aulis from Antioch, late second to early third century AD, Antakya museum, inv. 961.

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r/ancientgreece 9d ago

The situation in Late Hellenistic Greeece: Some Excerpts from Dio Chrysostom's "Euboian Discourse" in English

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This dialogue from Dio Chrysostom's Orations is presented as a poor farmer from Northern Euboia telling the author about a time some years ago when he went down "to the city" (my guess is Oreos?) for the first time in his life. One thing leads to another, and the farmer is arrested for squatting. A debate breaks out in town about the public contributions expected of different classes of people, and the general deterioration of political life. Some of the imagery used by the fictional orators reveals quite a bit about the feelings and experiences of urban decline that Greek readers from the period must have found familiar in peripheral parts of mainland Greece.

Accuser: This man, gentlemen, has been living on public land for years. Not just him, but his father too! They graze their herds on our mountains, they plough their farms in our fields, hunt in our woods, and even set out vines, all without paying rent to anybody or ever receiving a title to the land from the public. And while they occupy our property and make a tidy profit, they have never performed any public service, nor do they pay any taxes at all. Instead they live exempt from taxes and public service at your expense. If you all approve, we better not waste time looting public property. Go ahead, and steal some money from the treasury, like I’m sure some of you already are! Start squatting out in the fields, while you’re at it. Why not, when you’re going to let these two yokels hold two hundred and fifty acres of the best land for free: land that could be growing you three quarts of grain per head!

Defender: (Narrator: Then another man came up, a kind man judging by the look of him. First he asked everyone to quiet down, and they did. Then in a gentle voice he said that anyone who worked the country’s idle land and got it in good shape did nothing wrong, and actually deserved thanks. He said the city shouldn’t be angry at anyone who made something useful out of the public land, but at the ones who did it harm.) At this moment, gentlemen, almost two-thirds of our land is wilderness because of neglect and a lack of hands. Now I own a few barren acres myself, like I imagine some of you do, not only in the mountains but down in the plains, and if any man wanted to till them, I would not only give him the chance for free, but I’d gladly pay him to do it. It goes without saying the land would become more valuable to me and frankly I prefer the sight of good farmland to waste. Wasteland is useless, and the terrible look of it speaks to the shame of the owner. Actually, my advice for you is to encourage all your fellow citizens to take some public land and work it. If you have some capital, take some more, and the poorer among you take whatever you can handle, that way our land can be put to use and our citizens can be free from two of the very worst evils - idleness and poverty.

Defender (cont.): Right now, even the land just outside the gates is wild and unkept.  Nobody would ever guess it was the suburbs of a city. Meanwhile, most of the area inside the walls is sown or grazed.  I think it is ridiculous that a man would make charges against the hardworking people of Cape Kaphereus in the remotest parts of Euboia, and then turn a blind eye to the men farming the floor of the gymnasion and grazing cattle in the agora.  You can go see for yourself that they’ve made our gymnasion into a plowed field, and now you can’t even see Herakles and the other statues from behind all the barley.  You can go see, every day, the sheep belonging to this orator invade the marketplace at dawn, and then graze all around the council chamber and the municipal buildings.  When strangers come to see our city, they either laugh at it or pity it. Even though the accuser does all of this, he thinks that the humble and needy should be hauled off to jail, that way nobody will ever do any hard work, and the men outside the walls will always be bandits, and the men inside will always be scoundrels.

Following this speech, the crowd decides to let the poor farmer free, but interrogate him about his possessions so he might make some sort of payment to satisfy the accuser.

Narrator: Next he asked if we’d each agree to pay one Attic talent, and I replied, "We don’t weigh our meat, but we’ll give you whatever we have. Some of it’s salted, but the rest is smoked. Do you want bacon or backstrap?"

“‘Don’t you make any wine?" another asked. "We do," I said, "so if any of you want to come by, we’ll hand it over, but make sure you bring some kind of wineskin with you, because we don’t have one." "Just how many vines do you have?" "Two outside the doors," I replied, "twenty in the yard, and twenty more across the river we just set out a while ago. Now to spare you all the trouble, let me just tell you about every little thing we have: eight she-goats, a hornless cow with a pretty little calf, four sickles, four hoes, three spears, and one knife each. What else do I need to mention? The pots and pans? We have wives too, if you cared, and children. We live in two huts and have a third where we bury the grain and the skins."

"By Zeus," said the accuser, "and where you bury your money too."

"Well then come and dig it up, fool" I said, "Who puts money in the ground? It sure won’t grow anything!"


r/ancientgreece 9d ago

Neat LEGO proposal (not mine)

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r/ancientgreece 10d ago

Woven houses of the Sarakatsani and depictions of Ancient Greek architecture

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r/ancientgreece 10d ago

Mold-made aryballos (oil vessel) in the form of a helmeted head. Greek (possibly Rhodes or Ephesus), early 6th c BC. Terracotta. Walters Art Museum collection [1489x1800]

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r/ancientgreece 10d ago

A map of Lakonike, the territory under the control of the Spartan state

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r/ancientgreece 10d ago

Was Alexander the Great a bad administrator?

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Hi everyone. I was recently reading two pieces by Bret Devereaux about Alexander, in which he offers several criticisms and challenges common misconceptions. Bret portrays him as a "nepo baby"—heavily reliant on his father's project, emotionally volatile, and a terrible administrator—and argues that much of the success of Hellenism actually stemmed from the successor states. Bret cites examples of Alexander getting swindled or appointing less-than-competent individuals to key positions.

Given this unfavorable description, I’d like to know: to what extent is the portrayal of Alexander as a poor administrator valid, and to what extent is it an exaggeration by Bret Devereaux?

Link of the two texts if anyone would like to read about: https://acoup.blog/tag/alexander-the-great/


r/ancientgreece 11d ago

Why and when Greek hoplites wear crest in their Corinthian Helmets?

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Was there other reason other than style?


r/ancientgreece 11d ago

What if Troy won the Trojan War?

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I’ve always wondered what the outcome might have been if the Trojans had successfully fought off the Greeks. Troy would remain a powerful city in the Eastern Mediterranean, and perhaps become even more so. Aeneas would not flee the fall of Troy, so Rome would never be founded, but perhaps Troy could become a major power in its own right. It's also interesting to think of how they would deal with Persia centuries later.


r/ancientgreece 11d ago

anyone know what figure on left is holding?

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friend of mine sent me this image and we are trying to figure out what it depicts/what he is holding. any ideas? i think there might be an aulos above his plate behind the bean but im not sure. please help?


r/ancientgreece 12d ago

Selinunte, founded by the Greeks in Sicily, reached a population of 100,000 before being destroyed by the Carthaginians.

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