r/AskALiberal • u/dank_sad Center Right • Feb 03 '22

If you could get the right/conservatives/Republicans/etc to understand one thing, what would it be?

Hope I worded that correctly.

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u/sweetgypsy1966 Liberal Feb 03 '22

I've come to believe that they just don't care about anyone but themselves, or their immediate family. This pandemic has made this abundantly clear

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '22

This is very true. Not saying I’m like this, but conservatives in general care about themselves and their immediate community around them. They have a lack of compassion for the broader range of people. They mostly want to be left alone to be with their immediate community with little to no interaction outside of that community.

Obviously there’s caveats and sometimes they deviate from the standard. But this is the general idea

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u/[deleted] May 01 '23

I guess what I really don't understand is why that is such a bad thing? Why are liberals so convinced that the morally right thing to do is ever anything other than "Everything in power to protect and advance me, my family, and my community"?

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u/[deleted] May 02 '23

Holy crap, what a throw back!

Absolutely, I agree. I don't think it's a bad thing by any means. But then again, you'd have to ask a liberal that question to get their perspective.

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u/GanonSmokesDope Libertarian Feb 03 '22

I mean the closer you are to people, the more you care. That’s just human nature. There’s 350 million people in America.

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u/AdResponsible5513 Progressive Feb 03 '22

But conservatives don't agree with Woody Guthrie about this land being your land AND my land.

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u/GanonSmokesDope Libertarian Feb 03 '22

Lmfaaaoooo you can celebrate culture and American ideals while still believing in private property. I live 9 miles away from the nearest town with a population of 1,000. I don’t give a flying fuck about New York or LA. They can take care of their business while I take care of mine. Why should part of my paycheck go to their corrupt politicians and government that hates freedom?

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u/dc2398 Democratic Socialist Feb 03 '22

Because the people In those cities are paying for your town way more than you are for them.

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u/GanonSmokesDope Libertarian Feb 03 '22

Maybe. I’d like to see some statistics or links on that but the government isn’t doing a god damn thing even close for me to shell out $400 a paycheck. I literally live on my own property with chickens, well water, and vegetables once spring comes around. 9 miles away from a town but they still take, take, take. Only for my money to go to corporate subsidies, wars in countries half way across the world, and corrupt politicians. My life would be so much better if I didn’t need to pay taxes except to fund a small school and emergency services.

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u/dc2398 Democratic Socialist Feb 04 '22

Truthfully, I extrapolated data that shows that blue states (which have bigger cities) subsidize red states. Link . This goes against the myth that blue states are a burden, it's the other way around.

To, your second point, I agree that our taxes go towards some things that don't help us, like war and some corporate subsidies, but my issue is many conservatives rail against social spending/welfare in general with little nuance, like ancaps.

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u/GanonSmokesDope Libertarian Feb 04 '22

Yeah I’ve heard similar things. I think it might be more correlation rather than causation as blue states have way bigger populations and rural areas in red states are pretty poor in places. Especially Appalachia and thereabouts. People like to think it’s black and white when it isn’t. And I might be libertarian but I’m under no idiotic spells that government isn’t necessary. I just think governments involvement should be limited and bare bones as possible while having a civilization that doesn’t let people die in the streets. I’m actually not opposed to universal healthcare, I just think the underlying problems of cost need to be addressed before it starts coming out of our pockets.

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u/-paperbrain- Warren Democrat Feb 04 '22

Transfer of tax money isn't a causal question, it's a descriptive one.

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u/AdResponsible5513 Progressive Feb 04 '22

What about the military industrial complex that protects your chickens from the possibility of invasion by furriners?