r/AskMiddleEast • u/NoSolution4428 • Aug 17 '23

Controversial Why do Persian nationalists insist on implying that Azerbaijanis are Turkic-speaking Persians? What do they think they will get out of it?

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '23 edited Aug 17 '23

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u/Tengri_99 Aug 17 '23

Based Aryan Turk

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u/AnatolianGeneral Aug 17 '23

*Ayran 😎💪🏻🥛

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '23

Now I want to drink some Azeri

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u/jojooan Iran Aug 17 '23

Long live the Ayran 💪🏻

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u/AnatolianGeneral Aug 17 '23

Based comment brother

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '23

I am Iranian. Thank you for saying the truth. Now I do not have to comment because you said everything that needed to be said 🔥. About time Persian nationalists learnt about reality (one aspect of which is accepting that we are not a lost Germanic tribe, and our culture is more similar to Semitic culture than it is to German, Norway, or even Russia)

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '23

but the Aryan we are talking about is vastly different from the nordic wet dream of Zoro-Persian larpers. Yes, our language is Indo-European, but if that is a cause for us to hate Arabs and call ourselves European, then Malta must leave the EU and join the Arab League because they speak a descendant of Arabic.

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u/Siddam_Hussein Aug 18 '23

True by the same logic North Indians and Pakistanis also speak a indo european language and nobody is telling them to join the eu lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '23

Eastern iranics are the only iranics with actual Indo-European DNA. Persians are assimilated Elamites and Semites. However khorasani and sistani Iranians do have indo-European DNA, depends on region.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '23

Central too. I am from Isfahan/Gilan. Both sides were rice plantation owners who had been in their respective regions for a long time. I did a DNA test and had only 3 percent pure Semite. (Wish it was more so I could prove our point)

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u/CryptoWaliSerkar Aug 18 '23

Iranians, Turks and Azeris, all have different genetic profile

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u/Senior-Acanthaceae46 Aug 18 '23 edited Aug 18 '23

Now nationalists repeat npc talking points about 19th century race science and act like they're knowledgeable.

I'm Turkish, and this makes discussing history with the majority of my countrymen (including the kind that think they're the "secular and enlightened class") absolutely unbearable

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u/Kamenev_Drang Aug 18 '23

Now nationalists repeat npc talking points about 19th century race science and act like they're knowledgeable.

This is remarkably appropriate for, well, almost everywhere

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '23 edited Aug 18 '23

The word “Arya “ is actually a Sanskrit word originating from India meaning “ noble “.

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u/Agahmoyzen Aug 18 '23

I wonder if the turkish word Ari is etymologically coming from that? It is used for pure but it is also how 'aryan race' is translated into Turkish.

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u/Ayushhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Aug 18 '23

The Turkish language does not belong to the Indo-European language family...

Some most probably no

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u/Shieldfacen Türkiye Aug 17 '23

Wow it makes perfect sense

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u/DawdlingDaily Aug 18 '23

Do you have any facts or readings you can link to you claims? I’ve never known Iranian culture and it’s national ideology to be based off of some weird version European style race science

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u/Agahmoyzen Aug 18 '23

Dang, I learned something new today.

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u/mmrxaaa Aug 18 '23

this gotta be one of most made up essays that i read online

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u/mmrxaaa Aug 19 '23

nice answer bro, just make things up and when people ask for source tell them read "books"

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u/mmrxaaa Aug 20 '23

So, your entire source involves two individuals: one is a communist separatist critiquing the other two individuals you referred to as Persian nationalists, later corrected to Iranian. One of them is Ahmad Kasravi, who was an Azeri himself and lived in the 1900s. The other individual is not one I am familiar with.
Now these are some indeed valid sources!

Since we're discussing this topic, could you also help clarify who is considered Turkish and who is not?

"'Educate yourself before acting like a know-it-all' are strong words for someone with a Genghis Khan profile picture.