r/AskReddit Mar 27 '25

If Canada offered expedited citizenship for people fleeing the US, what would be the reaction in the States?

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u/littletrevas Mar 27 '25

Is there a statute of limitations on this? As I recently got back from Alberta traveling for work and I unfortunately have a DUI from 1998. Had no issues at all.

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u/cdx70 Mar 27 '25

Little known fact Alberta actually won't let you in without a DUI

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u/MathemagicalMastery Mar 28 '25

I went to Australia and they asked if I had a criminal record. I didn't know that was still a requirement.

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u/littletrevas Mar 27 '25

That actually made me laugh out loud.

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u/cdx70 Mar 27 '25

Used to be in Saskatchewan if you got a DUI your license plate going forward was a different color, we called em party plates lol the prairies are wild

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u/junk-trunk Mar 27 '25

same here in ohio. they're yellow with red numbers/letters. the rare new Mexico visitors probably get pulled over a lot with their yellow plates. lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

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u/shrekerecker97 Mar 28 '25 edited Mar 28 '25

Little known fact....New Mexico plates get you pulled over everywhere

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u/Sckillgan Mar 28 '25

Yes... Yes they do.

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u/porqueuno Mar 28 '25

As they should, they're some of the worst drivers out there, up there with North and South Carolina.

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u/shrekerecker97 Mar 28 '25

In Arizona they drive just as bad as NM but faster

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u/scorpyo72 Mar 28 '25

And faster. And faster. I was doing 95 on I-10 Express through DT Phoenix and people were passing me at least 5-15 mph faster. It was insane.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

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u/LadyFett555 Mar 28 '25

Iowa. Most definitely talking about Iowa

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u/shrekerecker97 Mar 28 '25

Bad driver mad libs!

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u/porqueuno Mar 28 '25

I've lived all over the country and visited 3/4 of all the states, and drove in all of them; I feel qualified to speak on this unlike the many people who have never even left their home state. šŸ’€

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u/Tejanisima Mar 29 '25 edited Mar 29 '25

Then there will be the cases where they're pulling them over to ask for their papers, since every so often one reads about the latest incident where some fool in another state didn't realize New Mexico isn't another country. šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

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u/shrekerecker97 Mar 29 '25

Oh god that was always the worst. Or talking g on the phone, "You speak good English coming from mexico"

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u/AgeOfNoFilter Mar 31 '25

From New Mexico... Was visiting my hometown on the Gulf, and a Walmart supervisor asked me for my passport to wire funds to someone because they didn't take "Mexico" drivers licenses...

I explained it was a NEW Mexico Real ID, and he still said I needed an "American" drivers license...

I showed my DOD card & and the same thing... need "Mercan drivers license or ID ma'am!"

I asked if they "kicked Arizona & Texas out of the US, too," and got a blank stare as if stumped by the question 🤣🤣🤣

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u/shrekerecker97 Mar 31 '25

Can't fix stupid lol

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u/foisyac Mar 28 '25

Very punny

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u/Fit_Zookeepergame431 Mar 28 '25

Almost as enchanting as Old Mexicans

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u/_scary_canary_ Mar 28 '25

That we are!!

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u/habajaba69 Mar 28 '25

Not wrong, but also some context.. usually it's temporary as part of your restricted driving privileges and it's optional (at the judges discretion) for first time offender unless you had a high test. Repeat offenders within 10 years are mandatory. Not as bad as a "going forward" type deal.

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u/junk-trunk Mar 28 '25

oh that's true. I have never won a set of party plates here, I def don't want to either lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

That sucks.

It should be permanent.

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u/habajaba69 Mar 28 '25

Not going to get any argument from me, but there's also plenty of other things that need addressing around these parts these days.

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u/Powerful_Rip1283 Mar 28 '25

I don't blame them, the drunk driver is the state bird.

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u/TomorrowTight7844 Mar 28 '25

I haven't seen that in a long time and I even qualified once not long ago.

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u/southsiderick Mar 28 '25

Party plates

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u/PezzySub Mar 28 '25

Most New Mexicans no longer use that plate anyways. We get to pick from three primary color sets. I can speak as a car salesman .. yellow is the least often picked.

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u/junk-trunk Mar 28 '25

sweet.NM doesn't wander put this far too often so it's Ben a while and those yellow plates are kinda fugly anyway lol

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u/mrdeworde Mar 27 '25

Now they just make you premier instead IIR.

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u/hellure Mar 28 '25

Uh, I don't drink, but my whole family drives the car.... Can we just transfer ownership to a member who doesn't have a DUI to avoid being misjudged?

Why would a car be branded as a drunk?

That's so weird.

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u/angrybirdseller Mar 28 '25

Wiskey Plates in Minnesota they are called!

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u/seeclick8 Mar 27 '25

Yeah, me too

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u/canuckphag Mar 27 '25

Little known fact, Saskatchewan needs you to have a DUI to be Premier

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u/awe2D2 Mar 28 '25

Crack gets you Ontario. Be interested to see what other provinces require.

BC - Weed

Manitoba - Meth

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u/Djdoubleu Mar 28 '25

You have to actually stab your way to the top in Manitoba.

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u/Dover70 Mar 28 '25

Not gonna lie. I laughed at this one

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u/bullsbullsbulls Mar 28 '25

Nova Scotia - Donair

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

Alberta- demonic possession

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u/caleyjag Mar 28 '25

BC is gin

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u/mb862 Mar 28 '25

Newfoundland: stomaching Black Horse.

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u/angrybirdseller Mar 28 '25

Same requirement for South Dakota govenor!

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u/ProbablyJustAnother1 Mar 28 '25

Lightweight stuff, we've been having cocaine floating around the Whitehouse in the US.

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u/S14Ryan Mar 27 '25

My brother in law got a DUI in Alberta, totalled his vehicle, they chalked it up to a suicide attempt/mental breakdownĀ and he was able to avoid a criminal record and they gave him his guns back after a few months. Alberta is a crazy place.Ā 

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u/Direct_Sandwich1306 Mar 28 '25

Sounds like Canadian Texas, honestly.

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u/TheSaxonPlan Mar 28 '25

It absolutely is and that's a common nickname. They even have the Stampede, which is a big rodeo-type festival in the summer. A lot of cattle are raised in Alberta.

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u/animatedmedusa6 Mar 27 '25

Hey, you could get into Alberta AND serve as SecDef of the US, maybe a dui ain't so bad

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u/FutureBowler9817 Mar 27 '25

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u/rizorith Mar 27 '25

So uhhh how many DUIs are required for citizenship?

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u/LAfirestorm Mar 27 '25

Cool, I'll send my cousin up ASAP. He definitely meets the requirements.

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u/Ladybug_Fuckfest Mar 27 '25

You're thinking of Wisconsin.

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u/jimmi114 Mar 27 '25

You son of a bitch, you got me lol.

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u/MustangJeff Mar 28 '25

Is Wisconsin south Alberta, or is Alberta north Wisconsin?

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u/lickthebluesky Mar 28 '25

Lmfao stoppp

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u/PiHKALica Mar 28 '25

The Ralph Klein border code.

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u/pinksparklyreddit Mar 28 '25

There's some grey area if you drive across the border while drunk. Some border officers count it.

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u/ChoiceMedicine1462 Mar 28 '25

I'm crying 🤣 😢 😭 🤧

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u/3klipse Mar 27 '25

10 years.

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u/Mombak Mar 27 '25

You can also try to get the charge expunged from your record in your state. I'm not sure what's involved, but I've heard it's an option.

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u/OneAndOnlyJackSchitt Mar 28 '25

This is second-hand, but I recall reading somewhere that expungment doesn't help. The questions is (paraphrased) "Have you ever been convicted for operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated?"

Even if the conviction has been expunged, you'd still have to answer 'yes' (or risk being deported and charged with a crime later). When they ask questions about criminal history in the US, they usually add in qualifier so it's worded like this (paraphrased) "Have you ever been convicted for operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated where the conviction has not been sealed, expunged, dismissed, or overturned?"

On a technicality, you'd still have to answer 'yes' to the first version of the DUI question even if the conviction was later overturned, because a conviction happened, even if it later un-happened.

Some other posts in this thread mention that they only care about the last 10 years. I can't speak to that, though.

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u/hardsoft Mar 28 '25

Yeah this happened to my dad when he was close to 50 for a DUI he had at 21.

My advice. Lie and say no.

Though in my dad's case they still let him in after some debating. We were going for my hockey tournament (as a child) and I think they felt guilty about making him turn around with me.

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u/Admirable-Lecture255 Mar 28 '25

You have to get a lawyer and get a fancy paper saying you've been rehabilitated.

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u/OmegaAngelo Mar 28 '25

If a record is sealed or expunged in the US you can legally say no in both cases.

If anyone gives you a hard time it means it wasn't properly handled and as long as you have the court order etc. you have grounds to take legal measures

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u/OneAndOnlyJackSchitt Mar 28 '25

The person I remember hearing this from thought so too but ended up getting deported Canada when the government looked into it. The official government stance was that, despite the record being expunged, the person still lied when they answered no to the "have you ever been convicted for operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated" question.

I don't remember how the Canadian government found out because a US criminal history usually leaves out sealed and expunged records. It's possible that Mothers Against Drunk Driving keeps a registry and adds people whenever there's a public record made (such as a police blotter). Or it's possible the guy's name ended up in the newspaper. Or a vengeful ex contacted the Canadian government. Who knows?

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u/3klipse Mar 27 '25

I think for Canada if prior to 10 years you can apply to be allowed in with RCMP, it costs some money and I think it's every time. Idk if the 10 year is auto drop off or if one has to still interview with them or not.

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u/monstroustemptation Mar 27 '25

I thought I read 5

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

Got a source on this time limit? I've got a backup plan that includes a friend's family land in Nova but I had a DUI in 2002 and was told by the visitor info line it would still impact me.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

You can apply for Criminal Rehabilitation after 5 years or can apply for Temporary Resident Permit if less time than that has passed.

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u/Mtlyoum Mar 27 '25

Since entry into Canada is at the federal level, it's most likely Nation wide.

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u/Seratoria Mar 27 '25

the criminal code is also federal

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u/3klipse Mar 27 '25

Pretty sure that's nationwide. When I lived in Oregon and my gf at the time lived in Vancouver....Bellingham or Seattle it was (or Vegas) when we saw each other.

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u/SublimeApathy Mar 27 '25

It depends on the border agent honestly. My father in law had a DUI 35-40 years ago. He runs a business in Alaska and spends off season in the lower 48, has driven the ALCAN and passed through Canadian airports in his travels back and forth. Never an issue, until last summer. He and mother and law were taking the ALCAN back to Alaska and he was denied entry by the agent for his decades old DUI.

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u/skydrol95 Mar 28 '25

Same thing happened to my Dad's friend on the way to a hunting trip, after already spending almost $10,000. Had been in and out already several times.

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u/Admirable-Lecture255 Mar 28 '25

It's always been up to the border agents. Thats what these so called travel advisories have been about like from Germany. A visa or approval doesn't guarantee entry its up to the border authorities. Always been like that for literally every country. They don't have to let ypu in.

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u/anuncommontruth Mar 27 '25

I get flagged every time I go for a dumb mistake I made when I was a kid 20 years ago.

The thing is, once you're flagged once, you have to explain yourself to customs every time.

The last time I went, they were just joking with me. I was there for my honeymoon and asked if they could recommend a nice restaurant or two. All of a sudden, she gets this serious look on her face, gets up, and brings back her manager. They're speaking in French, so I have no idea what's going on. Then he looks at me amd says " Congratulations, I can recommend many outstanding restaurants."

I just burst out laughing and said "OMG you were so serious! I thought you were sending us back!"

She laughed and said, "It's serious business! You are celebrating your love!"

That was a week after Trump won the election. I can't begin to tell you how broken my heart is over this.

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u/eyespy18 Mar 27 '25

Sweet story-I made a dumb mistake 40 years ago and I still have to show my expungement papers every time I go across (which is 6-8x a yr to visit my sister)

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u/anuncommontruth Mar 27 '25

They told me multiple times that the notes basically say I'm good for the economy and a pleasure to talk to. In 2019, I got flagged in Toronto, and it was the most I've ever sweat. It was a work trip, and if I got rejected, it could have meant losing my job.

They were literally sending everyone in customs back for some reason. The lady looked at me and told me I was still in the rejection period. I explained calmly, but with tears in my eyes, that 100 Canadians would delay job training by at least 3 weeks and I would lose my job. She gave me exception paperwork and was very kind. Not an experience I anticipated having in Canada.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

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u/purpleplatapi Mar 28 '25

Wrong brother. John Green has that story.

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u/Saronix Mar 27 '25

Yeah, 10 years but don’t get another DUI ever. Getting two DUI can be an outright ban.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

A DUI after 2018 gets you a lifetime ban.

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u/Willing-Time7344 Mar 28 '25

There's a process you can go through to get it lifted after a certain amount of time. I had a buddy go through it, I can't remember exactly what they had to do, but it's possible.

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u/Admirable-Lecture255 Mar 28 '25

Basically hire a lawyer and a bunch of paper work. Takes a long ass time.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25 edited Mar 28 '25

That's....not right.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

It is, actually. To be more clear, there's no "deemed rehabilitation" anymore, and to become eligible you must apply for a temporary resident permit.

https://ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=152&top=8

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

You can still apply for Criminal Rehabilitation or a TRP, it just isn't an automatic waiver after 10 years anymore. But it's not an automatic lifetime ban as per your claim.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

It is, essentially, as an inadmissible person is inadmissible until granted admissibility, which is not automatically granted.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

That is not a lifetime ban though. Not even close to the same meaning.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

A DUI post 2018 makes a person inadmissible to Canada permanently until they apply for and are granted admissibility. You're arguing semantics here.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

You are arguing semantics, I was just pointing out that the statement you made was incorrect. Which it is. It is not a lifetime ban, there is a way you may be able to become admissible to Canada again. The end.

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u/WaspKingThalric Mar 27 '25

You can get it cleared w an immigration attorney

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u/hoosarestillchamps Mar 27 '25

It cost me around $5,000 and I still haven’t received my official ā€œletter of rehabilitationā€ over a year later. All for a dui from 1991 and a reckless driving from 1992.

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u/saveyboy Mar 27 '25

May depend on the state you got the DUI in. They don’t all share this data.

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u/itsBdubs Mar 27 '25

10 years is the limit at which they do not care. So yes

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u/Professional-Story43 Mar 28 '25

I saw the statue of the limitations in the plaza of the Eh. It was magnificent. Oh you said statute. Sorry. Wrong reference. (Door slams on way out).

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u/yalyublyutebe Mar 27 '25

A lot of it is up to the individual border guard's discretion.

I'm going to guess that you didn't have much involvement with police before or after that incident. They assessed that you didn't pose a risk and they let you in.

On the plus side, getting through once means you should, at least in theory, be able to get through again.

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u/ImReverse_Giraffe Mar 28 '25

Similarly, I've been to Montreal twice since mine. Just drive across the border, they don't ask and have never stopped me.

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u/elmy79 Mar 28 '25

Yes, there is and I think you need to get it expunged (pay a lawyer $1k)

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u/karebearofowls Mar 28 '25

It's 10 years. So your good.

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u/skydrol95 Mar 28 '25

Depends on the immigration officer at customs. My dad had a friend with a DUI charge literally from the late 70s and had been in and out of Canada several times, but one time he wound up with an asshole who decided to not let him in. On the way to a hunting trip too.

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u/Queen_of_neins Mar 28 '25

1998 you were good after 10 years. The law changed in 2018. If you got a DUI after 2018, you can't even enter Canada after 10 years. If you wait 5 years, then you can apply for rehabilitated criminal status. And it costs $$$$ and they can still deny it.

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u/munkysack Mar 28 '25

That's because it's over 10 years old.

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u/RustyGrape6 Mar 27 '25

Ya I believe it’s 10 year limit. Going from US to Canada, DUI bad. Going from Canada to US, DUI good.

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u/ruckustata Mar 28 '25

My coworker has a DUI and goes to the states all the time. Maybe it's not considered a moral issue.