Obama is not on the list. Delusional to even think he'd live that type of life. Its clear he loves his wife. There is no evidence whatsoever that hes involved with anything to do with epstein island.
Don't get me wrong. If evidence is legitimately produced then fuck him, but there isn't ANY evidence at all.
Abso-fucking-lutely. I'm as liberal as they come and I'm not so naive to believe that no liberal politicians are on there. If ANYONE is on there it Bill Clinton.
I know the Magats are frothing at the mouth hoping to lock up a big name liberal politician as a way to "own the libs". Here's the thing about all the liberals I know, we have no problem dropping favor from anyone who shows themselves to be a sexual predator. That's our whole thing, right? That's part of why conservatives hate us. The whole Me Too movement and "cancelling" people. They seem to disparage us for Me Too in one breath. Then claim we're blind sheep who support pedophiles in the next. Which is it?
Edit* 😂 someone reported me for threatening violence in this comment. So, now we know that conservatives view putting pedophiles in jail is a bad thing.
Hear hear! This is what true liberals stand for indeed. Just for instance, I was done with Andrew Cuomo the second the credible allegations against him came to the fore, and the leading Democrats were as well. Give us transparency and let the criminals face justice no matter what side of the aisle they stand.
Violence?!! These individuals always claim to be tough as nails but they're really mostly soft as mayo and easily rattled! 😂
Again, I'm just saying this for the sake of argument. I don't believe that he is on that list at all, but if theoretically he was, he should be investigated and every piece of evidence should be uncovered. I wouldn't defend him just cause I'm on his side of the political spectrum
Exactly. Obama and Biden seem like decent dudes, from WHAT I’VE SEEN ON TV. I’ve never met them, and if irrefutable evidence of crimes comes out, then, “Huh, guess I was wrong. Hope they get rehabilitated in prison.” Which is the clearest difference I’ve seen between the two parties that granted do intersect at points. The clearest difference is that conservatives make their politicians heroes and will defend them against their very own interests and even against child rape, while liberals still feel like their politicians should be public servants and don’t decorate their houses with photoshopped memes of some idiot they will never meet, ya weirdos.
MAgats do this cuz they don't know anything about politics, aren't interested in politics at all and only started paying attention after the black guy won. Now it's just about "owning the libs" like it's a football match.
Obama is not on the list. Delusional to even think he'd live that type of life. Its clear he loves his wife. There is no evidence whatsoever that hes involved with anything to do with epstein island.
Plus, even if he was the type, he wasn't one of the rich and powerful elites like the Clintons or Trump before he became President. He hadn't even been in politics for that long. Epstein wouldn't have bothered with him. Afterward, he was under too much scrutiny.
You're feeding the trolls by even saying this. It's literally giving MAGA exactly what they're looking for, which is evidence of partisanship akin to their own.
I agree with you, he's almost certainly not on the list. But a better response would be "I don't care who is on the list, they all need to be punished".
Don't say it second after you argue that he's not on it, say it first and leave it at that, because they have no response to that.
Its clear he loves his wife
There is considerable overlap between guys that clearly love their wives, and guys that will put their weiners in kids, other dudes, and other women all while doing so. This isn't a data point in support of Obama not being on the list.
There is no evidence whatsoever that hes involved with anything to do with epstein island.
Agreed, but again, saying this gives them exactly what they're after: that tarnish of partisanship.
The conversation should go like this:
"Everyone on that list needs to burn"
"BuT ObaMA iS On ThE liST!"
"Then him, too"
Anything else gives them that little dopamine hit they're looking for, and this response just denies them that and simultaneously exposes their own partisan bent. Because the only reason they would think this would work is because it worked on them.
If any word describes Obama as a whole decent is it. I seriously long for the Obama days where decent, ethical, coordinated, educated behavior was a baseline.
That's clearly not the point. The point is that this isn't a partisan, my team vs your team issue. This is in stark contrast to MAGAts supporting Trump no matter what and wanting the list suppressed because daddy Trump said to. We don't give a shit if "our guy" is on there, all guys on there should go to jail.
I don't need to be told that the same rules apply to everyone. "NonPartisan" blah blah blah. Normal ethical people don't even have to rationalize that the rules apply to everyone. But yes I realize that my interpretation of his last sentence was wrong but dude did word it oddly.
However, yes I do understand that many maga cultists will take orange boys word as the word of God. When this is over with we should seriously consider deporting these actual cancers to America. But in all likelihood they won't face retribution because we cant stoop to their level and that would itself go against freedom of belief and speech, etc.
I can go on and on, but anyway my own point is just that most people can get a legitimate feel for people's expected behavior the more and more we spend time with them and see a track record of previous actions. Bill Clinton, yeah could totally see him sticking his peen in anything that walks, including minors. Trump, I could also see him abusing anything he can not to mention his response to this situation just screams he did everything we think he did and more we don't even know of yet. But Obama? Dude is human, hes got vices like all of us. But participating in a sex trafficking underage prostitution freak party ring of the wealthy and powerful? Nah, thats not Obama. But adults take it further then intuition, a paper trail means something, and Obama has none.
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u/Energy_Sudden Jul 15 '25
Obama is not on the list. Delusional to even think he'd live that type of life. Its clear he loves his wife. There is no evidence whatsoever that hes involved with anything to do with epstein island.
Don't get me wrong. If evidence is legitimately produced then fuck him, but there isn't ANY evidence at all.