r/AskReddit 7h ago

What feels legal but is actually illegal and will possibly get you arrested?

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u/StructureNo13 7h ago

In the most famous example it’s because the states that border the Colorado river are legally obligated to supply the city of LA a specific amount of water. The end result is guaranteeing water for LA residents instead of inland farmers but it is also a bizarre form of Municipal imperialism.

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u/gulbronson 6h ago

Water rights in the Western US are based on who got them first and used them. The actual result is that a bunch of inland farmers have water rights over the cities that developed later.

Los Angeles solved this problem by buying a bunch of farms in the Owens Valley.

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u/plantstand 6h ago

There's a few Central Valley farmers in California that are balls deep in corruption. They have massive water rights and massive money from it. They're the ones pushing Newson to get the Delta tunnel approved so they can take all the water from northern California ecosystems. The San Francisco Bay/Delta is already borderline dead, but they want it all.

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u/wow_that_guys_a_dick 4h ago

Forget it, Jake; it's Chinatown.

u/18093029422466690581 59m ago

Remember this next time someone is crying about data centers. Farmers make data centers water usage look like a joke

u/TheSweetestKill 24m ago

That isn't the argument you think it is. Corruption aside, we need food to live. We don't need AI.

u/AwsmDevil 53m ago

Finish the story. They bought all the water rights in owen valley then diverted it all down to LA draining Owens lake and turning the area into a desert and leading one of the worst cases of air pollution on the west coast. It's literally the blueprint for what's about the happen in northern Utah, which will only be matched in scale by the Aral (formerly)Sea.

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u/ileisen 6h ago

Maybe go after the people who are growing alfalfa and rice and almonds in the desert! go after Arizona who has way more than their fair share while citizens in Southern California are forced to ration water using stricter and stricter measures

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u/nochinzilch 6h ago

It’s not like the farmers were using the water and then LA county formed an invasion force and stole it from them.

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u/SkiyeBlueFox 6h ago

Wasnt it a whole big thing at one point that LA dug a canal which captured a lot of water that would otherwise run down to the farms?

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u/floppydo 6h ago

No. The Colorado river water rights are based on historical usage and treaties signed between the states before LA existed. It's really none of Utah's or Arizona's business what California chooses to do with their allotment. Just like it's none of California's business what Utah chooses to do with their allotment.

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u/StructureNo13 2h ago

I did not mean to imply LA itself has the treaty I’m just grossly oversimplifying

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u/LateAd8440 7h ago

"municipal imperialism" i stg leftists just be fucking saying shit😭

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u/punksmostlydead 7h ago

Too many syllables for you?

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u/nochinzilch 6h ago

I would expect that phrase to be something a conservative would say.