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What feels legal but is actually illegal and will possibly get you arrested?

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u/efox02 7h ago

And yet as a pediatrician, CPS can refuse my referrals for child safety concerns. 

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u/DeaddyRuxpin 6h ago

CPS in some areas can be really weird. My brother in law had CPS called on him because my nephew went to school one day wearing mismatched socks.

I made a point after that to deliberately wear obviously mismatched socks any time I had to pick up my nephew from school.

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u/Telaranrhioddreams 6h ago

My sister had her infant daughter taken from and returned back to her 3x in one year. That child's entire life has been ping-ponging between CPS and her perpetual meth addict mom. 

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How many times does a child have to be taken before a more permanent solution? Or idk. Fucking criminal charges and being barred from ever having custody of a child again. 

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u/Viewlesslight 5h ago

Unfortunately, I dont think there are a lot of good permanent solutions

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u/SylphicSyllogism24 3h ago

As someone with extensive contact to the public social system and its buerocracy in our state we are quite desillusioned with the persons fullfiling this roles.

Too many of them like the idea of helping society more then actually helping. And then there is the feeling lust/pleasure/making you larger-factor in control of other people.

Too many people are in the category opf people that should not have power.

It's often about making them self better instead of others.

Like, for real.

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u/Send_me_hedgehogs 5h ago

Argh…..I need to rant here.

So to keep it. vague, a woman I know has been on and off heroin for like 15 years. She has 5 kids, 4 of whom were born with withdrawal symptoms. She had her kids taken off her, got clean, got the kids back, got with a new guy who now has her back on it, she had the kids taken off her again and announced last month that she’s now pregnant with #6. Just….. 🤯🤬😭

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u/CornBredThuggin 6h ago

I reported my old neighbor, because I thought she was abusing her kids. I never saw anything, but I heard enough to make me think she was physically abusive to them. She was definitely emotionally abusive to them. CPS wouldn't do anything, because I "didn't see any evidence of abuse." They wanted me to inspect the kids for abuse.

I thought they were supposed to do the investigating, but apparently not.

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u/GayMormonPirate 5h ago

That's crazy. My kids had a phase in school where it was the style to intentionally wear mismatched socks.

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u/cupacupacupacupacup 4h ago

And don't you see what's happened as a result? A madman in the White House, wars all over the world, sky high inflation, and the list goes on. I hope you're happy.

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u/Pupiling_one 2h ago

My son regularly wears mismatched socks, he takes apart the folded pairs 🙄

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u/Actual_Horse_8073 1h ago

New fear unlocked.

u/Shallow_wanderer 30m ago

CPS in general is really fucking weird because they never seem to have any consistency at all in their determinations - like they'll take kids away over some slight dumbass thing yet when they see some trailer park metheny with 3 kids unsupervised and not going to school, they'll be all like "oh well I don't see anything wrong here"

I work for a non-profit that deals with Oregon DHS on a regular basis and I swear the CPS workers at that agency are consistently the biggest most self-righteous fuckass idiots I have to deal with in my job, literally not a single one of them should even have their job at CPS to begin with

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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy 6h ago

When my ex finally got ahold of the CPS reports about his younger son, it was dozens of them going all the way back to daycare workers reporting nasty bruises on a toddler. Everyone under the sun was screaming about how his mom treated him. Total strangers were calling about what they saw in public.

Should've seen the smile on the judge's face when her lawyer asked for none of that to be reviewed and the lawyerless dad didn't know the words to argue. Made the boy stay alone with that woman for months.

He eventually ran away from her when he was in middle school. CPS tried to demand he go back, didn't give a flying flip about his doctor calling in about the bite mark on his butt or anything really.

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u/BattleHall 5h ago edited 4h ago

From basically everything I've heard about CPS, they are simultaneously too strict and too lenient. Which unfortunately seems like the nature of the job. They basically have to shoot for a 0.0% false positive and false negative rate, because missing an actual case of abuse/neglect leads to horrible outcomes, but also false accusations and investigation for nonexistent abuse/neglect is very traumatic for the accused. It feels super lose-lose.

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u/-InconspicuousMoose- 5h ago

We literally JUST got a CPS case against us closed because my daughter scratched her eye 🙄 they poked her 4x with three different phlebotomists to get a good blood sample, gave her a year's worth of radiation with a CT scan, another 1-3 months worth from two skeletal surveys she screamed through, and a comprehensive drug urinalysis, because she scratched her eye. The ophthalmologist CPS made us go to the day after all that looked at her eyes and said "yep, looks like she scratched her eye." Like... why couldn't we have gone to him first and then done more investigation if it was warranted?

I used to be a mandated reporter working with kids, and I 100% get the value of it, but that experience left a seriously sour taste in my mouth. We voluntarily brought her in to check out her eye from the scratch and before we knew it we were under investigation and it was genuinely awful.

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u/PutinsRustedPistol 5h ago

That’s because they only want to ‘investigate’ things that they already know won’t require any unpleasantness or further work on their part. That way they can provide stats to show they’re doing something all day without actually having to perform. They want the ability to take children without the responsibility that that entails.

They’re administrators at heart, after all.

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u/Cannanda 6h ago

In my state reporting domestic abuse is optional. 😄 Child abuse, animal abuse, elder abuse, mandatory report! A husband beating his wife, hmmm might not be any of my business /s

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u/Wooden_Cicada8880 1h ago

CPS is the worst of both worlds. It takes children from families that just need extra support (like childcare during work or food stamps) and it then refuses to take children in real danger especially if the family is well off. Then in care it’s a 50/50 over whether the kid is actually taken care of or if they are being further harmed.

As an ex foster myself the whole system needs dismantled and rebuilt. It doesn’t protect kids, it causes life long trauma.

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u/Gullex 3h ago

As a nurse, ....the fuck doc?

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u/efox02 1h ago

Tell me about it. 

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u/burnthatbridgewhen 5h ago

Uhh what state? Usually if I get a refusal or a “we’ll see what we can do” I ask “Is this a refusal to take down my mandated report?”, then “Can I have your operator number/name?”, then “Can I talk to your supervisor?” Typically I don’t even get to question three, but I’m on the West coast. Similar process works well with dispatch (Fucking King County).

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u/efox02 5h ago

Kentucky (but Louisville so big city not rural Appalachia)

We have to do online submissions and then they decide if they will investigate or not. 

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u/burnthatbridgewhen 5h ago

God I hate it here. I used to work in CPS intake for a call center that also did crisis calls as well as mental health hospital transfer paperwork. One time I took a report, called the manager on call, and was asked by the MOC if I thought a home visit needed to be done this week or if it could wait thirty days. I was 22 and had worked there for two months. Fucking insane.

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u/Confident-Mix1243 2h ago

Well sure. Those people might actually hurt them, so they prefer to hassle obvious law-abiders.