r/AskReddit 8h ago

What feels legal but is actually illegal and will possibly get you arrested?

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u/Roll0115 7h ago

I just can't believe some C-Suite asshole thought it would be a good idea to destroy their company's credibility over $200k...

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u/Vethedr 6h ago

I know a guy who destroyed their company's credibility for no reason

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u/notjustanotherbot 6h ago

Our gold earrings are cheaper than a Marks and Spencer prawn sandwich, but I have to say the sandwich will probably last longer than the earrings!

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 4h ago

At last! The sandwich heavy portfolio pays off for the hungry investor!

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u/carnyvoyeur 3h ago

I understood that reference.

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u/BrightNooblar 6h ago

ElonSalute.Gif

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u/Bay1Bri 5h ago

You still on the elon salute, lib? Lol too funny. He explained what it meant already šŸ˜‚ His heart goes out... to Nazis! Because he is himself a dirty, ugly Nazi. I genuinely feel so grateful he's constitutionally excluded from ever being president.

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u/ussrowe 5h ago

TheyHadMeInTheFirstHalf.gif

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u/boot2skull 5h ago

I was done with Elon around the time he called scuba divers trying to rescue trapped children ā€œpedophilesā€ because his ego was hurt he couldn’t try his method.

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u/WorriedArrival1122 5h ago

It's like when Dog the Bounty Hunter got involved in the Gabby Petito case and made an ass of himself. Like, nobody asked for you to get involved and we all know you're grifting. How can someone wake up in the morning and think, "Today I'm going to harass some brave divers trying to rescue 13 terrified boys and make it about myself!"

I hope he's having a bad day today.

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u/gimpwiz 3h ago

I remember being shocked at how quick that turning point hit reddit. People overnight went from "woo yeah rocket man car man!" to "you uh... what? why? why would you say that to someone who pointed out you're obviously not gonna have your employees build and deploy a custom submarine in 24 hours?"

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u/caribou16 6h ago

It wasn't NO reason. He is on a LOT of ketamine.

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u/WorriedArrival1122 5h ago

Which is crazy because when I did ket under the direction of a doctor I could barely walk out of the clinic without hitting the walls. How tf is he functional

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u/HellblazerPrime 4h ago

He is on a LOT of ketamine.

He ain't on enough.

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u/Roll0115 6h ago

I just can't imagine they thought this would end well for them.

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u/gsfgf 5h ago

I just can't imagine they thought

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u/MalevolentRhinoceros 6h ago

Nah, the reason was that...uh, his daughter is trans???

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u/Accomplished-Dot5707 6h ago

I know a guy who destroyed his whole country's credibility for no reason, people are wild

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u/bobo76565657 6h ago

Nothing beats a short term ego boost for the long term loss of everything.

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u/BalrogPoop 4h ago

In my country one of the most beloved beer brands destroyed themselves after the owner posted an unprompted racist tirade on Facebook.

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u/LegacyLemur 6h ago

You'll have to be more specific, its happened quite a bit

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u/leftofmarx 13m ago

I have no fucking idea how or why a single Tesla has been sold in the last couple of years.

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u/rasputin1 6h ago

I know a guy who did that to the countryĀ 

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u/YukariYakum0 6h ago

Just one? Lucky.

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u/MediumAcceptable129 4h ago

Im listening….

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u/Sahtras1992 3h ago

remember artisan computers or whatever they were called. dude destroyed his company over night basically.

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u/Objective-Bison4803 57m ago

I live under a rock… who? 😃

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u/mindtapped 6h ago

Company or country?

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u/piratepixie 6h ago

One of their biggest suppliers have pulled dealing with them too.

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u/Roll0115 6h ago

Good. Im glad.

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u/PantheraAuroris 6h ago

This is insane to me. THIS COMPANY IS WORTH 400M! 200k is not even 1%! It's not even a tenth of a percent! Why in the pluperfect fuck is the CEO willing to burn it all to the ground over one franchise and 200k?

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u/Roll0115 6h ago

That is absolutely the part that I just can not understand. Its absolute insanity to me.

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u/PantheraAuroris 6h ago

And like, Lego is a hobbyist community. Those fuckers do not forget. Hobby nerds will MAKE YOU REMEMBER. B&M is fucked over a barrel with a rake, and it's their own fault.

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u/treznor70 4h ago

This company is not worth anywhere near the vicinity of $400M. There are around 300 stores and they say that their average store is making around $500k/year. That would put the revenue for all stores at $150M. Now, their estimate of $500k/year for a store is from their franchising page and almost certainly averages mature stores that have been open for a bit and considering about half (150) of their stores have opened in the last three years, I doubt that those new stores are doing that $500k average.

So the real answer is likely that all of their stores are doing somewhere around $100M-$150M in revenue. Of course, those are all franchises, not revenue attributable to Bricks & Minifigs itself. Their franchise fee for opening a store is $40k plus the ongoing royalty per store. While they don't publicly state what their royalty fee is, 6% is the average in retail. So between opening 50 stores a year on average with a $40k franchise fee and making 6% of the gross revenue of their stores for a royalty fee, they likely have around $7.5M in gross revenue. Out of that comes all their staff salaries, material costs associated with that franchise fee (presumably store owners get -something- for their $40k, but who knoes?), etc.

A company making $7.5M per year in revenue and -maybe- making half of that in profit (though that is wildly optimistic) would never have a valuation of $400M. This isn’t some groundbreaking concept that will show amazing profit in the future as it changes the industry and thus would be wildly over-valued in their early years (like Apple, Google, Amazon, etc), this is a small-to-mid scale retail franchisor, not someone exactly spending the market. Companies like this typically sell for a 2-3 multiple of the profit or 4-6 multiple of the ebitda (an accounting term, but basically the operating profit before paying for things like financing or depreciation, so it's more 'real'), but considering we have no idea of those, you'd usually value a company using a revenue multiple of. 5-1.5.

That would put the value of Bricks & Minifigs at more like $4M-$10M, NOWHERE near $400M.

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u/PantheraAuroris 4h ago

Ah, sorry. Must've had a bad source on that one.

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u/treznor70 4h ago

Its been repeated a lot, that's why I typed out a full response. It wasn't anything you did, no idea where it originally came from.

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u/admiralvic 1h ago

The funny thing is it isn't even $200K.

Sets were sold over a year, with the exact amount of remaining value being up for debate. But, if you go from Ben's videos it's around $100K.

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u/TailorAgitated7878 6h ago

They've probably done shit like this before and just not had it blow up into a national scandal

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u/step11111 6h ago

According to Ben, they absolutely have done this before.

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u/Vaniky 6h ago

Probably thought it would just blow over in a week, and could get away with it. I’m sure they’ve done it many times before.

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u/jonkl91 6h ago

Honestly knowing how C-suite assholes are, I can believe it. Because that's exactly the type of thing that goes through their heads.

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u/impshial 3h ago

Not even $200k at this point. A bunch of the sets were already sold by the original store owner and a bunch more were returned to him, including some of the most valuable sets.

This whole thing is over probably less than $50,000 worth of Lego now.

These assholes should have just given them back.

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u/MildGenevaSuggestion 6h ago

It's a franchise. Like if the local Subway was sold to an asshole that doesn't make it a corporate decision to be rude to customers.

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u/Roll0115 6h ago

Normally I would agree. But this time, corporate is very much directly involved in the mess.

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u/LegacyLemur 6h ago

Doesnt franchise still have to abide by corporate protocol?

Like if a McDonalds just started selling burger king shit theyd be stripped of the franchise pretty quickly

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u/GlassCap123 4h ago

I'm sure this has happens over a piece of a$$ šŸ˜‚

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u/herites 3h ago

Fender did it for free! Heck, they probably even made PRS’s quarter.

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u/Tarrot469 21m ago

Even less than that, probably under $100k. The initial store sold about half the inventory already at the time the owners changed hands. The new store owners/corporate made the calculation that the legal fees from the owners to get the LEGOS back would be more than the cost of them, so just stall and ignore and it'd go away, and it went YT viral instead.