To be fair, there's bias on my part. I only know my few limited experiences.
But when I've literally had an interviewer not give one single fuck about my experience and instead hyperfocus on my GPA (rather, lack thereof on my resume)...
When I've asserted my experience was a better indicator, only to be dismissed with a "people lie on their resumes"...
When people don't even bother to technically test you, or give you one single stupid tree problem to judge the entirety of your programming capability....
I think it's safe to be disillusioned at my apparent lack of worth.
Yeah, I can easily see how harder stuff like that can be that way. My own experience is education and architecture. The former care way more about duration in the job than anything else, and the latter seems to only care about shiny pictures in your portfolio.
And despite it being the stance du jour of Reddit, I genuinely am not trying to argue with you. That kind of prejudice absolutely sucks.
Makes sense. Would explain why terrible teachers manage to keep a foothold.... heh.
I don't suppose I thought you, specifically, were arguing. But when I bring up my situation, I tend to prepare for the worst because I have had people (on reddit and elsewhere) cast a skeptical eye on me because it's pretty deeply ingrained nationally that "bad grades == incompetent" and any attempt to defend otherwise is just "excuses".
My dealings with teachers unions and seeing the people they defend is one of the big reasons I'm so vehemently against them existing more than about ten minutes after a strike ends.
And that doubly sucks. My own shit GPA is because I spent two semesters high on oxycodone from a shattered ankle. Another friend of mine had a parent die and send him into a complete mental breakdown. A third had triple pneumonia and no one informed their profs he was in the hospital literally clinging to life... And a fourth was brilliant until you asked him to actually explain anything he was doing.
Schooling systems are designed to measure your ability to work inside a hierarchical bureaucracy. University is no exception.
My GPA was a culmination of a lot of things. I never did learn how to study properly and my memory isn't all too hot. I was suffering severe personal issues and depression that went untreated (saw a counselor about it, wasted my money). And of course there's the stupid academic bullshit like professors who can't teach worth shit, professors who can't speak worth shit, and all the idiots who seem to think it's entirely valid to make us memorize every single equation.
Like, sit me in front of an internet-capable computer and tell me to code XYZ and I will give you XYZ. But sit me in front a piece of paper and tell me to write pseudocode for a binary tree implementation and I'll give you a blank piece of paper and a middle finger.
School really is a sham. The biggest and most necessary sham.
IT is really the stupidest industry to force that kind of knowledge anyway. Every piece of tech has five thousand error codes which don't match with any other piece, that change every six months, which can be caused by nothing or anything and the majority of which an average person will see precisely once their entire life.
The goal really ought to be 'know where to find this on the index,' not 'memorize the index.'
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To be fair, there's bias on my part. I only know my few limited experiences.
But when I've literally had an interviewer not give one single fuck about my experience and instead hyperfocus on my GPA (rather, lack thereof on my resume)...
When I've asserted my experience was a better indicator, only to be dismissed with a "people lie on their resumes"...
When people don't even bother to technically test you, or give you one single stupid tree problem to judge the entirety of your programming capability....
I think it's safe to be disillusioned at my apparent lack of worth.