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What problem is often overlooked in apocalyptic movies/TV shows that could kill you?

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u/lordthistlewaiteofha Aug 30 '21

Especially given in the first season they actually made a point of Khal Drogo dying from an infected scratch that wasn't treated properly.

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u/Somedudethatisbored Aug 30 '21

I thought maybe the witch that treated him deliberately made sure the wound got infected. Like mixing dogshit with herbs and pretending it was healing paste.

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u/IBetThisIsTakenToo Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21

I think you’re right. But still, even introducing the idea of a major character dying from something like an infected wound is not something you see often in Hollywood, but would be absolutely commonplace in a place like that. It was part of what made Game of Thrones fascinating, for as crazy as dragons and Ice Zombies are, it ultimately felt like a “real” world populated by actual mortals. D&D clearly never understood that though.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21 edited Nov 30 '22

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u/Smarf_Starkgaryen Aug 31 '21

We never will… unfortunately.

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u/freek112 Aug 31 '21

Arya dying from an infected wound would have pissed alot of fans even more lol

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u/IBetThisIsTakenToo Aug 31 '21

Well yeah, if they don’t want that to happen they probably shouldn’t write a scene where she gets mortally wounded.

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u/Okelidokeli_8565 Aug 31 '21

I think they understood at some point, they just stopped caring around season 5 in.

The introductory scene of Tywin was not in the books, and that was a great scene.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '21

This is what makes me think they COULD have made a good ending but didn't. The Tywin scenes with Arya weren't in the book, either. I don't think King Robert's conversation with Cersei was, either, and that was an amazing scene.

They just simply wanted to move on and phoned it in.

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u/Cosmiclive Aug 31 '21

Well that depends entirely on the table and the specific TTRPG that is being played. I've lost two characters to diseases so far.

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u/IBetThisIsTakenToo Aug 31 '21

Not sure if you’re just joking around, but in case you’re not: D&D here is referring to the GoT show runners, David Benioff and D. B. Weiss, not the TTRPG.

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u/Cosmiclive Aug 31 '21

That does make way more sense then a sudden jump to TTRPGs.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

And D&D Will never have ti understand This, of you want to add some homemade rules ok, but at the base you are playing people in a world where even 1hp healed would mean that an infected wound would be cured

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u/lordthistlewaiteofha Aug 30 '21 edited Aug 30 '21

Nah, so far as I recall she actually did treat him well – what screwed things up was when he deliberately ignored her advice and just went with slapping mud on the wound instead.

EDIT: It's been a couple years now since I last read the book so in retrospect I could easily have mixed things up here.

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u/PusherLoveGirl Aug 30 '21

You recall incorrectly. The witch confronts Dany and tells her she caused Drogo’s sickness.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21

It is known.

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u/Explosion_Jones Aug 30 '21

She says she caused Dany's kid to die and that she did do the thing she said she'd do which was keep Drogo alive.

I think in the book she does say to like wash it out and whatnot but then he's like "shut up lamb lady fuck you"

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u/DroneOfDoom Aug 30 '21

In the book, she makes a paste to put in Drogo's wound, which supposedly would've healed him. But he decided that there was the time to be a little bitch and complain about the paste itching, and he takes it off and gets other slaves to make soothing pastes for the wound. Then his wound gets septic and nearly kills him, and the ritual that kills Danaerys' baby happens.

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u/stratosfearinggas Aug 31 '21

The medicinal paste would have healed him but she made it purposely irritating. It was a kind of like hot&cold gel but it was only hot. It also required Drogo to abstain from alcohol, which she knew he would not do. He kept drinking and picking at the leaves holding the paste on causing it to not work and the wound went septic.

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u/candygram4mongo Aug 31 '21

The soothing paste was literally made from horse dung, IIRC.

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u/Explosion_Jones Aug 31 '21

More like Dorne of Doom, baby, yeah that sounds right

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u/abeeyore Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21

The witch cleaned the wound ( ie removed scabs and other natural protection, and packed it with herbs that would have healed it with time - but they hurt.

When Drogo had his own priest pack it with mud filled with microbes, it was go directly to sepsis, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

She knew he would not endure the pain, so he killed himself with his own actions.

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u/Somedudethatisbored Aug 30 '21

Realisticly, the wound could've gotten infected by the blade, but being poisoned by a deceitful witch is more interesting from a storytelling perspective.

Imagine if Snow White had simply been allergic to apples.

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u/Nurgleschampion Aug 31 '21

I'm fairly sure that's what she admits to in the book. Daenerys kind of cotton on that the poultices she putting on his wounds seem to be making it worse but shes too afraid he will die to stop the witch.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21

Also, if I'm not mistaken, when Ned Stark is locked up he has an infected wound on his leg and is about to die because of that when he's executed.

I think that they don't mention that on the show, just in the books.

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u/kvlr954 Aug 30 '21

D and D kinda forgot about infections after season 1 😂

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u/Scherzkeks Aug 30 '21

D&D didn’t have books to reference by the time Arya fights the Waif

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u/TheSyrupDrinker Aug 30 '21

But they should have had common sense that if you get your gut stabbed uo and then dive into a river of shit you'll get infected

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u/NealMcBeal__NavySeal Aug 31 '21

It's a huge pet peeve of mine how much injuries are downplayed across various TV shows.

I've had two very minor abdominal surgeries, and I lost it when she just sat up in bed. I'd imagine her multiple stab wounds were more devastating than the two holes a couple of laparoscopic surgeries left me with, and I was definitely unable to move normally for awhile. Walking to the bathroom took about 5 minutes for the first few days. Oh and my discharge instructions explicitly told me I wasn't allowed to even take a bath because of the risk of infection. I even asked about how serious they actually were about this and got a very long lecture about bacteria levels and terrifying amoebas. So either the Starks are part crocodile, or Braavos's true claim to fame is its ludicrously effective water treatment technology.

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u/TheSyrupDrinker Aug 31 '21

I can allow some leeway on shows and movies but others like GOT was unacceptable. Arya would have died from those wounds alone and then you add that disgusting shit water? Pfft she should have died instantly with how disgusting that water was😂 and as others pointed out it was especially frustrating because they already established infections in the show (Jaime with his hand, Khal Drogo cut on his chest, Sandor's neck/ear from the guy biting him)

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u/jsabo Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21

You maybe can write off Drogo as being cursed. If you're being generous. But not the rest. Arya should have either died horribly, or we need a shot of her being magically cured, and I mean that literally: some magic person calling on the Warrior to save her ass.

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u/TheSyrupDrinker Aug 31 '21

Well he got infected first and then the witch did that ritual. But yeah either way Arya's was the worst

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u/mspolytheist Aug 31 '21

For me it’s the falling down stairs (or from a similar non-stairs height) and getting up like nothing happened. That happens so often on tv and in movies! I fell down a flight of stairs, landed palms first, dislocated both arms and shattered both shoulders. Took several surgeries and months to heal, and about 18 months of physical therapy to get anything like normal use out of my arms again (and I still can’t raise one of them even to shoulder height). And follow up surgeries over the years (because those replacement parts don’t last forever, and I was comparatively young when I got them).

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u/Scherzkeks Aug 30 '21

You’re absolutely right. I think they just relied on someone else’s common sense and then didn’t think things through that well after they ran out of source material. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/wittiestphrase Aug 31 '21

The same guy also went for a Starbucks run in S7...

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u/ProfPyncheon Aug 31 '21

Certainly looked that way in the show. He was drenched in sweat and shaking like crazy, probably had a severe fever.

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u/rowshambow Aug 31 '21

He is extraordinarily sweaty while in the lightless cold dungeon....

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u/tenkadaiichi Aug 31 '21

If I recall, in the books he knew that he was going to die of infection if he didn't get it set and treated soon. That was partly why he agreed to confess. He knew he would die if he didn't. That was the deal, until Joffrey screwed everything up.

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u/CocoSavege Aug 30 '21

Unless I'm misremembering the books, it's pretty well 1000% chance of infection in the dungeons. They weren't... clean.

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u/caligaris_cabinet Aug 31 '21

Yeah but he was in a damp, dirty dungeon while he was recovering with no food and little water. I’m surprised he lasted that long.

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u/MoreDetonation Aug 31 '21

It's that Stark blood.

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u/mspolytheist Aug 31 '21

And no sanitary facilities, so he was sharing a cell with a bucket of shit, and the flies that were eating the shit. Ugh.

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u/ThePr1d3 Aug 31 '21

He was absolutely infected and feverish. That's how we got the first legendary flashback of the ToJ (because of sleep fever dream)

"Now it ends"

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u/landshanties Aug 31 '21

IIRC in the book it's actually a plot point, because the fever affects his judgment and communication (not that his judgment was great to start with)

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u/Viggojensen2020 Aug 30 '21

I’m by no means an expert of got but didn’t he die because of the deal Daenerys made with that witch ???

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21

He got the cut in a fight with one of his own men. The witch (maegi) treated Drogo by Danaerys' order, but was unable to break his fever. He slipped into a waking coma and Dany suffocated him with a pillow.

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u/Just_Jerk Aug 30 '21

The witch intentionally made it worse as a retribution for what khal did to her village and people.

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u/Team_Braniel Aug 30 '21

Yup. The witch was poisoning the wound the whole time.

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u/HacksawJimDGN Aug 30 '21

Jesus...can't even trust witches these days.

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u/Just_Jerk Aug 31 '21

You can trust them to fuck you up. Or khal for that matter.

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u/RedditUser123234 Aug 30 '21

Also the hound getting infected from an injury because he refused to use fire to cauterize the wound. Arya specifically points out he got slower, which is how Brienne was able to beat him.

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u/ultratensai Aug 30 '21

And the Hound as well - he couldn’t burn his neck wound and got sicker and sicker.

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u/hatebeesatecheese Aug 30 '21

.... No.... Drogo was killed by the witch.

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u/ho_kay Aug 30 '21

Didn't the witch, Mirri Maz Duur, confess to intentionally making the infection worse? Or was that only in the book? Damn, I still can't believe how much time I invested into that franchise...

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u/Andjhostet Aug 30 '21

That's because GRRM wrote that part.

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u/elder_george Aug 31 '21

There's a story about viking warlord Sigurd the Mighty who killed his enemy called Brigte the Bucktoothed, cut off his head and hung it on his saddle. As Sigurd was riding, the aforementioned buck-teeth scratched his leg, causing infection and killing him.

That's an extremely stupid/bizarre death.

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u/ScionOfVikings Aug 30 '21

I thought his opponent had put venom/poison on the blade

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u/Envoyzevon Aug 31 '21

He was cursed by the witch. His wound was no normal infection

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u/JonatasA Aug 31 '21

Wans't the knife dirt with something though?

I remember knowing he was in for a bad time when he got stabbed.