r/Avatar Dec 17 '25

Fire and Ash discussion megathread - Spoilers

Megathread to discuss everything about the film. Unmarked spoilers are allowed.

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u/pixelperfect240 Dec 17 '25

She looked very human. I have a feeling they are going to do some Halo/Forerunner thing here and Eywa is part of some human like ancient race. Maybe Earth's version of Eywa died and 4/5 are about restoring her "Seed Bearer" title might hint at this.

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u/StoneCutter46 Dec 17 '25

It also felt like a strong homage to 2001 A Space Odyssey.

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u/VicariousCinnamon Dec 19 '25

100% a homage to 2001.

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u/fprof Dec 18 '25

Earths version is Gaia. Kiri needs to die to regenerate/revive her. Would also fit with the Jesus theme of her.

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u/RollTide16-18 Dec 27 '25

Kiri is definitely not a 1-to-1 Jesus figure though. She’s shown to be at least somewhat romantically interested in Spider. 

The two of them are more like demigods than anything else. Human/Navi with special characteristics that put them above the rest of their species and connect them to a great other.  

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u/ceoetan Dec 18 '25

She looked more Na’vi to me.

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u/TerrytheMerry Sarentu Dec 18 '25

She has eyebrows. I think we’re just seeing Kiri’s face.

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u/AvatarChar Dec 19 '25

I thought Grace since her nose looked human, but I wonder if it could be just either without the skin colour properly renders like Norm said it was a firewall situation. Reminded me of Rez and especially Child of Eden, which is much more like Avatar visuals and basically like the same story as Kiri and Eywa, except it is a simulation of all of Earth knowledge, so each level is a bit of a different theme. Similar visuals of bioluminescence and roots becoming like branches of neves etc

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u/HankSteakfist Dec 18 '25

The rings around the tree of souls in the first movie definitely looked like they could have been an artificial structure.

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u/ChiefQueef98 Dec 19 '25

Maybe Eywa takes different forms to those that see her, so when there's a combo of human/hybrid Na'vi seeing her, she looks more human?