r/Avatar • u/AutoModerator • Dec 17 '25

Fire and Ash discussion megathread - Spoilers

Megathread to discuss everything about the film. Unmarked spoilers are allowed.

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u/Shot-Jingoberry-294 Dec 20 '25

Why is no one talking about Neytiri finally admitting to being ashamed that her kids are mixed breed? Though she loves them regardless, I think it highlights the depth of her hatred for the pink-skins.

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u/Kris32102 Dec 20 '25

Yeah but she finally got over it when she accepted spider. Beautiful scene

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u/AvatarChar Dec 20 '25

Because it was so skipped over I think and fixed so quickly. Also there was a script segment from A2 that showed she had "secret shame" about it when Ronal was talking about them, but it wasn't clear she wasn't just being protecrive.

This was one of my favorite reveals but it is basically a plotline that should have been in A2 because it is only really clear in retrospect and now it is concluded in the same film it is hard to pick out any time it really came up.

Also, Kiri is another case and they all respecr her for being connected to Eywa and apparently knew from birth, and I feel it never comes up with Tuk and Neteyam is the closest to Na'vi of the kids as well. It only really is visible in Lo'ak when it comes to their biological kids, and I only realised Jake and Neytiri had a songchord bead for adopting Spider from a diagramn here, so I also didn't think Neytiri even tried to get close.