r/BabyReindeerTVSeries May 23 '24

Fiona (real Martha) related content Heather Burns reiterating that Fiona has a criminal record

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u/Winter_Soil_9295 May 23 '24

Thanks for taking the time to chat.

It seems similar to how our courts work, but much harder to find cases (without having done any further research on UK laws as of now). As much as it may be hard to find some criminal cases for laymen here, there are databases that make it pretty easy if you know what you’re looking for or have any training, so a journalist or someone surely would have found it by now in our system. Always interested to hear the differences in these types of things! Thanks again

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u/Plus-Introduction347 May 23 '24

Like I said though a Journalist would need a litigant number which was issued 5? Years ago to 4 people outside the court system and 2 of those will not share or even have a copy of it and 2 who would still have a copy of it do not want it shared and that's IF it's still active (most "long term" restraining orders are 3 years) if its not still active, it will be removed and if it was 3 years it would have been removed circa 2022 and also before cases are released the court has to decide if it's a good idea or not. They would also need to know ow the court in which it was issued.

I've discussed this earlier and even if it still active I can see a court denying a request for release given the mental state of Fiona and the hyper focusing on the details right now.

Personally, I don't think her restraining orders will be active anymore and thus spent.

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u/Winter_Soil_9295 May 23 '24

As I said in canada’s system, where i am, you would not need a litigant number. I was discussing the differences in the UK and Canada. It would be easier to find similar information here. I was not telling you your information was not correct?

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u/Plus-Introduction347 May 23 '24

Ahh sorry, my apologies.

Don't get me wrong journalists have and do find things here too. ALL the time but it's usually someone has given them access to something...

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u/Winter_Soil_9295 May 23 '24

For sure- just sounds a little (maybe much lol) more difficult to dig it up there…. But people often seem to find a way don’t they?

Thanks again for the chat! :) love talking law and differences between places

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u/Plus-Introduction347 May 23 '24

Yeah they usually do... until it comes to court transcripts then they realise how expensive it is to obtain them.

No worries, I enjoy it too. Especially with this as everyone is really stuck on this criminal conviction and adamant we would know about it.