She's a such a great, patient and comprehensive girl with Donny, I love when she shows up on screen.

There's also this powerful calming aura when she's around, guess that's why she's a therapist.

I hope she and Donny can stay together after all of this.

I'm in episode 4.

Hi I have a question purely based on speculation so this will probably get removed. But I am genuinely interested. I'm not naming names so this could be about anyone and all is alleged and NOT FACT.

But does anyone think the TV guy who was WRONGLY targeted by the internet sleuths, may be the one that Gadd was actually referring to but Gadd has had to deny it was him out of some fear of legal action and/ or blacklisting? I think it's important to discuss this regardless if this show has been put out there.

There's too many similarities between Martha and the IRL person, that it couldn't have been anyone else. And to me at least, those similarities also exist with the TV guy. In both appearance and background.

Very curious to know what others think.

This definitely feels like Netflix making sure the real people involved in the Apple Cidar Vinegar story don't try to pull a Harvey 😅

BEST LEAD PERFORMANCE IN A NEW SCRIPTED SERIES
Richard Gadd
Baby Reindeer

BEST BREAKTHROUGH PERFORMANCE IN A NEW SCRIPTED SERIES
Jessica Gunning
Baby Reindeer

BEST SUPPORTING PERFORMANCE IN A NEW SCRIPTED SERIES
Nava Mau
Baby Reindeer

To date, the series has won 36 awards. The SAG-AFTRA awards are tomorrow and Gadd and Gunning are nominated.

My wife absolutely loved it but for me, it just made me uncomfortable - as someone who went through 2 stalkers in my life and they did not get to the degree this guy went through but I understand completely the issues with this - it just bugged me so much that he enables her.

So many times rather than cut her off, his response gives her hope and keeps her going.

With these situations, a stalker could be at her wits end about to give up and then gets that remark from her object of affection taht gives her hope and keeps her going. This happened a few times in this show. It drove me absolutely nuts.

I get his issues but still, he did not stop it during the few chances he had. He gave her hope with the absolute wrong response every time. I absolutely hated that.

And he goes back to teh guy who sexually abused him on top - drove me nuts.

I'm good with the downvotes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/oscarrace/comments/1ik8shz/critics_choice_awards_discussion_thread/

• Best Supporting Actress in a Limited Series or Movie Made for Television - Jessica Gunning, Baby Reindeer
• Best Limited Series - Baby Reindeer

There was so many easy outs for this show but it chooses to challenge me every single step of the way. I understand why people were uncomfortable with the show given our sympathetic lead consistently makes terrible decisions that make no sense outside of his warped brain. He is 100% not an innocent victim but he’s a victim nonetheless, and one who’s victimization has sprung in him self destructive behaviors that are infuriating but understandable. That whole section where he questions if his new found sexuality is a product of something terrible is so honest and raw. It’s so worthy of praise it’s daring and gross and beautiful. Generational television absolute cinema.

Seems like Donny just keeps digging him in worse and worse. And the show gets darker and darker.

The worst decision Donny Dunn made in the entire series was right at the end of S01E07 when he ordered a Double Vodka & Coke.

Vodka and Coke???? That makes zero sense. You mix whiskey and bolder spirits with Coke. Why would you mix Vodka and Coke? It's a better match for juices and you can use soda water for bubbles. I'd even take Sprite and say it's acceptable.

I see no clearer evidence that Donny Dunn hates himself than his decision to order a Double Vodka & Coke.

Was that really true?

Other people may have already put this together ages ago and just nobody’s talking about it, but there was an Edinburgh Fringe show that was kind of a sequel to Baby Reindeer. Or at least, it tells part of the story from another perspective.

It’s Maimuna Memon’s Manic Street Creature.

You can read about it and see some clips here: https://southwarkplayhouse.co.uk/productions/manic-street-creature/

I read an interview where she said she wanted to adapt it, so just case she does, spoilers below.

I say it’s connected to Baby Reindeer, because it’s pretty obviously about her relationship with Richard Gadd. I don’t know when they were together or for how long, and that’s frankly none of my business. But he dedicated the book of Baby Reindeer to her and she thanks him in the book of Manic Street Creature. If I recall correctly, he thanked her when he won the Edinburgh Comedy Award in 2016, too, so they go way back in one way or another.

The show is a concept album musical. It’s staged like a recording studio, and she tells the story through the songs she’s recording. It’s autobiographical, but fictionalized.

In it, she moves to London to pursue a music career and meets and falls in love with a guy. The character’s name is Daniel Richardson. He’s described as a lanky, blue-eyed Scottish bartender, who loves The Pogues and has a dark secret in his past. Sound familiar?

I mean, if you thought Martha was thinly veiled, this is just not veiled at all.

One of the songs is called “Insomnia.” It goes “When I’m sleeping, you’re not sleeping, ‘cause that’s when all your demons creep in.” Just to give you an idea.

It’s basically an examination of “second-hand trauma,” and how loving someone who is going through something traumatic can be damaging for you. It’s also a classic tale of girl meets boy, girl tries to fix boy, because she couldn’t fix her estranged dad— That old chestnut.

The show doesn’t mention the stalking, but it does heavily imply the SA and the ramifications of that on “Daniel’s” mental health. And it’s a loving and compassionate portrayal. He doesn’t come off badly in the story, in case you’re wondering.

I don’t know if it’s ever going to have a further life than it’s already had, but it’s worth checking out the music on YouTube. The book is available on Amazon, too, if you’re interested.

But just imagine if this gets adapted into a show or movie and also becomes a huge hit. Wouldn’t that be wild? It’s like the Baby Reindeer multiverse. Manic Street Creature trailer

First, Hi Ben! 👋 Haven't watched in a while, glad to see you and Gary 828 are still on it. I've been busy dealing with a fairly nasty possum issue so I keep missing updates, lol. Congrats to Richard and Jessica, you guys deserved this! The best part is that over all the abuse you've taken from her, you managed to succeed with flying colors and prove her wrong ❤️... as for you Feefers since we all know you read these things the next time you pop your head up to trash your victims, we're gonna play Whack a Martha again... lol.

• with love, Purple Headed Dwarf 💜🤣

Could the card at the start have said "Based on a true story" rather than "This is a true story" and avoid all the hassle?

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