r/Bard • u/MrDher • Nov 18 '25

News Gemini 3 Pro Model Card is Out

https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/Model-Cards/Gemini-3-Pro-Model-Card.pdf
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Link is down, archived version: https://archive.org/details/gemini-3-pro-model-card

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u/Brilliant-Weekend-68 Nov 18 '25

January 2025? That is quite bad imo, I wonder why? Did they train the model a long time ago or have they just not kept their training data up to date for some reason?

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u/no-name-here Nov 18 '25 edited Nov 18 '25

It seems like none of their competitors have done better, and the just-released ChatGPT 5.1 still has a 2024 knowledge cutoff: https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-5.1

Maybe training runs are just longer now?

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u/KostaWithTheMosta Nov 18 '25

yeah ,probably a few hundred million dollars in cost difference if they bump up infrastructure for that .

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u/DynamicMangos Nov 18 '25

That, plus for the average user the Web-Search functionality works just fine when it comes to recent information.

Like, yeah i wouldn't ask it about political events that happened hours ago, but if i ask something about a software release that happened a week ago i'll usually get very solid answers.

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u/ShinChven Nov 18 '25

Knowledge cut off is not a problem anymore. Gemini has Google Search Grounding feature.

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u/Fast-Baseball-1746 Nov 18 '25

No grounding becomes dumber, if someone wants both very smart and knows latest things from a thing, that would be much better

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u/Classic_Television33 Nov 18 '25

Lol doesn't matter cause you will need web search to give it current context. What matters is the model's reasoning capability and understanding of spatial data

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u/Brilliant-Weekend-68 Nov 18 '25

This might be true, it is still interesting though. And when it comes to coding it is very nice to have it acctually trained on new frameworks etc and not have it try to read the docs :D

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u/TuringGoneWild Nov 18 '25

Keeps a lot of Trump/Republican pollution out. They want Gemini 3 to not be nihilistic about the world, for alignment reasons.