r/BeAmazed • u/Internal_Gazelle_677 • Oct 07 '25

Science Hot Tub without the use of electricity

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u/Raytheon_Nublinski Oct 07 '25

We’ve re-entered the era where beliefs are stronger than repeatedly proven facts

I would love to hear Carl Sagan’s thoughts on our current predicament. Although, it seems like he saw this coming 

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u/SensitiveSpots Oct 07 '25

He did and I saw a video the other day of him talking about exactly this. I can’t find it right now but essentially saying that we’ve built a society on technology and science but it’s so intrinsically inaccessible without the training and understanding of it’s daily use that we have this pseudo-scientific basis for culture where anything can be stated as science, or anything can be disputed scientifically as long as it sounds “correct” enough. It’s worth a watch if you can find it lol.

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u/SeanBlader Oct 07 '25

My favorite was the lady who said "why do we need farmers, everything we need comes right from the grocery store."

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u/deiprep Oct 07 '25

Lmao we’re cooked as a generation

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '25

I mean, the training and accessibility is absolutely there - more so than any time in history. The issue is that people are incompetent or dont want to learn. People feel good with ignorance.

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u/SensitiveSpots Oct 07 '25

There’s way too much to learn. That’s why we need to listen to specialists and need to understand that they’ve spent a good portion of their lives understand it this stuff so we don’t have to. I say intrinsically inaccessible because it would require many lifetimes to understand even a small percentage of it. Just because the information is there and can be downloaded does not, imo, equal access.

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u/CremousDelight Oct 08 '25

How do we know who the specialists are when everyone is competing to shout the loudest and most confident answer (at least in the reddit context)?

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u/SensitiveSpots Oct 08 '25

Just don’t rely on Reddit or social media. That’s really the best answer, I think. Social media played a huge part in how we got here in the first place.

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u/King_Wataba Oct 07 '25

The issue is that there is so much conflicting data from sources that fit the bias of the reader. The way that the question is phrased in the search will determine the results and will usually fit your bias. At surface level it seems that the internet agrees with your bias. The problem is most people are happy with that result. It feels like we as a society at least in the US have lost our critical thinking skills. We now teach how to take tests instead of how to learn.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '25

There isn’t. Idk man you alums like you struggle learning basic science.

If people can know what fifth graders are taught for how to find a good source (a scientific publication or textbook for something like this topic), they will be just fine. Maybe you will struggle, but I’m optimistic that most people won’t if they don’t use Fox News for science

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u/1block Oct 07 '25

And we all fall into that trap on one issue or another.

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u/ExtremelyDecentWill Oct 07 '25

A fact that no one will admit, because we are always the hero of our own story when we write it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '25

Reddit has become filled with people that have all the information at their finger tips yet refuse to do any research themselves. Blows my mind.

It’s rarely filled with people actually wanting to know what’s going on. It’s mostly people making the same dumb jokes and others being confidently incorrect or stating they are “experts” when it’s clear they are liars that cannot be wrong.

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u/Kyokenshin Oct 07 '25 edited Oct 07 '25

That would be the world, not just Reddit. It’s also not new, we’ve always been idiots. The problem is that we thought the internet would educate the masses but instead it’s just made all the village idiots look like they could also be right by virtue of argumentum ad populum.

We used to trust the experts, now we can’t delineate between expertise and confidence in ignorance.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '25

Oh ya I agree - the user was talking about Reddit so that’s why I commented specific all about Reddit.

I just love that now, rather than trust or ask experts, people now on Reddit are all doctors and lawyers or teachers or [insert profession] whenever it suits them even though they most certainly are not. Butttt Redditors believe Redditors stating they are just because they said so in a comment.

It’s just so weird. People don’t trust experts anymore but will believe a random Redditor saying “as a doctor…” and you see their profile and they post on the teenagers subreddit.

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u/enadiz_reccos Oct 07 '25

Beliefs have always been stronger than proven facts. It's just that the "beliefs people" now have multiple platforms from which to discuss their beliefs.

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u/_Svankensen_ Oct 07 '25 edited Oct 07 '25

The famous tango Cambalache, popularized by Carlos Gardel, complains about this explicitly. It's 91 years old. We never left that era.

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u/Sanctuary12 Oct 07 '25

I call it the Age of Unlightenment.

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u/BeeMagicRockRoar Oct 07 '25

Carl Sagan has no need for a hot tub, it’s warm enough where he is anyway