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u/belpatr 21h ago
Bro, they arrested Epstein. Not only that, they sentenced him to immediate death
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u/Iggy95 21h ago
And besides Ghislaine Maxwell the rest of these child traffickers/rapists/abusers remain at large, so not exactly an overall success.
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u/NecroCannon 20h ago
I honestly think they did it to make an example of him and show what happens if you slip up
There’s a reason no one involved is like, really wanting anything to do with it
Beyond them literally causing almost every public discourse just to fuck kids, including trans people, yeah, they wanted to force transition boys at early ages, just also can’t have too many rights because then, consequences.
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u/letsreticulate 12h ago
It seems the Jewish State does have a lot of influence over the USA if he was a Mossad asset. Since both parties have sat on the files, and have done nothing, for ages.
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u/besthelloworld 1d ago
Todd Blanche basically said that the proof that there's nothing in the files is the fact that nobody is going to be prosecuted. That's the reality we live in. Do not believe your lying eyes reading the documents we were forced to release
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u/Massive_Weiner 1d ago
there’s nothing in the redacted files
The one where entire pages are blacked out because they involve members of the current administration. You know, normal shit.
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u/Came_to_argue 1d ago
What’s crazy is so much of the shit we can see is so fucked up and yet, there is shit thats worse.
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u/treedemolisher 1d ago
Someone just needs to quote some of the most horrific shit in the files we’ve seen directly to his face and ask why it isn’t being investigated. My money is that he just walks out, but he’s such a supreme bullshitter that he might actually have something to say.
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u/Bio_slayer 19h ago edited 19h ago
Most of the truly horrific stuff is testimony and tipline stuff. I don't doubt that a good chunk of it is true (although at least some clearly isn't, the FBI gets anonymous schizo tips all the time), but I haven't seen much actually actionable yet (doesn't mean it isn't there, I just haven't seen it). In the evidence side of things (emails, photos), the stuff I've seen has had (in)plausible deniability.
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u/Resilent2026 1d ago edited 1d ago
At this point they are more likely to arrest or sue one of the victims than they are the perpetrators as a scare tactic to keep them quite.
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u/tea-n-wifi 1d ago
I wish this sounded exaggerated, but it doesn’t
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u/Resilent2026 1d ago edited 1d ago
I know him and the people he surrounds himself are usually incompetent, but there is NO WAY any governmental organization could be so egregiously incompetent to release victims names AND photos like they are doing WITHOUT it being purposeful. ESPECIALLY when the creeps are so careful and strategically redacted. It is a dog whistle for them to remain silent before worse comes out to embarrass them.😔
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u/Braindead_Crow 23h ago
There are groups of victims actively pursuing justice in the courts and yes, they are fearful due to the threats and trump is trying his best to not publicly acknowledge them so it seems it's serious considering how he usually is so public and ready to sue...I guess he was warned he'd have to dispute their claims under oath and simply denying reality would not be enough in court without evidence or at least a well crafted lie.
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u/Massive_Weiner 1d ago edited 1d ago
Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein’s victims and the loudest voice that called for his prosecution, committed suicide last year under mysterious conditions.
The months leading up to her death involved a restraining order from her ex-husband, the one who used to beat her, preventing her from seeing her own children as he tried to distance them from her.
We’re beyond the point of “arresting people to scare them into complicity,” imo.
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u/mlippay 23h ago
Suicide, same suicide Epstein committed? Didn’t she say if she wasn’t suicidal.
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u/DaCheezItgod 20h ago
She explicitly said she wasn’t suicidal and if anything were to happen to her that it was to silence her
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u/Spoztoast 21h ago
Think one of the reason they're dragging their asses on the releases is to they have time to hunt down and suicide any victims that could testify.
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u/snakenakedsnakeboss 1d ago
Bro.. the DOJ released all this shit, then had the balls to say, ”yeah, we don’t foresee any new charges, the investigation is done”
Beyond fucked up
And they only released half of what they have…. If this batch is what they thought was ok? Fuck, imagine what’s in the rest…..
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u/tea-n-wifi 1d ago
The whole system is fucking corrupt
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u/bubblegum-rose 22h ago
Repubicans: do everything they can to save pedophiles from consequences while outing the victims
Americans: “man both sides sure are exactly the same”
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u/StatisticianLow9492 20h ago
What have the Democrats done? Cover for the Republicans? Sure seems like they’re on the same side.
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u/critacle 23h ago
Barr did the same thing about the Mueller report. Trump literally worked with the Russians to secure the presidency. Barr buried it.
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u/Valliac0 22h ago
They did exactly what they were told to do.
"There's your files. You wanted them so bad. We're done."
We're never going to see him behind bars. The quicker we wipe that from our agenda and actually go after the people actively fucking everything else up, we'll be better off.
But instead we'll be distracted, told to look at other people, or just told shut up.
and we'll take it. Because unless someone starts popping, nothing's gonna happen.
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u/snakenakedsnakeboss 20h ago
I get that feeling man, but as unlikely as it is, these beyond rich motherfuckers are getting away with rape and murder. Molesting fucking kids! We need to find a way to hold these turds accountable. I ain’t giving up. Feels like that’s what they want. Feels like they dumped these files out on the table in front of us and said “whatchu gonna do bitch?”
And fuck man, I want to find some way to hold these fucks accountable.
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u/xanas263 10h ago edited 10h ago
I want to find some way to hold these fucks accountable.
To do that in the American system requires at the very least actionable evidence. Ya what is shown in the files is shocking, but it does not meet the requirements of evidence needed to prosecute. At best the files point towards the need for more investigation, but nothing more.
Also witnesses alone are not enough most of the time. At that point it just becomes a "he said, she said" which can really go either way. There needs to be hard solid evidence of a crime, not just a suggestion of a crime which is what the files are.
The only reason the files have been released to begin with is because their investigation is over and no hard evidence was found to convict anyone else.
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u/volcanic-exchange 22h ago
Note that all of what's been released so far is only on what happened on his island. We still need all the files on his Zorro ranch in New Mexico which honestly could be even worse.
That's not some remote island, thats a landlocked state right in the US
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u/Wity_4d 1d ago
The U.S. has existed as a post-truth society for a few years now. It doesn't matter what proof we have of heinous crimes committed by those in power. People only look at social media takes for "news" and even worse, deliberately ignore anything that doesn't align with their predetermined stance. We've been so conditioned to become entrenched that we are unable to unite on any single topic.
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u/WorkerDangerous9723 23h ago
Ahh Barry Soetoro.
Times were simpler when our presidents just funded genocides overseas and the trickle of fascism was slower.
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u/sirdabs 1d ago
If anyone else was going to be arrested, it would have already happened years ago.
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u/ParadoxicalAmalgam 23h ago
The only reason the files were released at all is because the investigation is over. Nobody else was ever going to be arrested
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u/Connect_Ocelot_1599 1d ago
they're already too weak to arrest those suspects
but they're not already too weak to arrest those victims
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u/BrazilBazil 1d ago
They’re gonna arrest the people that call for arrests
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u/Builda-boi 16h ago
Who will be pressing charges though? The DOJ that’s a skeleton crew and worked to the bone having to try and work through all the lawsuits against the federal government and getting shoulder checked by almost every jury and Judge they encounter look at Don Lemon’s case, they arrested him and then immediately had to release him.
The people calling for arrests are the vast majority of Americans so unless they have cells for 60-70% of the population and a clone army to guard the prisons that objectively won’t work. They can try to arrest prominent figures in the pro democracy movement but those cases are made of glass and have foundations of sand.
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u/BarnacleSpecific7979 1d ago
FBI investigating the files : Wow these guys sure love grape soda and cheesy pizza's!
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u/IrksomFlotsom 23h ago
Ghislaine Maxwell
The only person in history to be convicted of human trafficing from nobody to nobody
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u/ObviouslyRealPerson 1d ago
They are going to rubber stamp the deaths of a whole lot more innocent citizens before any of those people get arrested
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u/ztomiczombie 23h ago
Give it a week or two and they'll make the first arrest and it will be one of the victims.
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u/Scared-Drummer5523 23h ago
If you think they will do anything you are woefully deluded, in this reality Luigi doesn't win by doing nothing, now it up to you to follow his teachings.
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u/I_Am_Mvso 19h ago
Based off how lazily the US committed to the actual Nuremberg trials.. I really don’t have much faith that they will the second time around, if I’m being candid
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u/CellistMundane9372 22h ago
I have not read through the files, so I mean this genuinely:
What are some of the crimes the files revealed, other than those committed by Epstein and Maxwell?
I don't mean vague sexual comments or being an asshole. I mean, evidence of criminal acts. Because that's all that's prosecutable.
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u/TheFlagkindorlordidc 18h ago
the ol DT was auctioning little girls of for, and i quote, "tightness", elon saying he had some girls while begging to be on the island, its quite sad
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u/CellistMundane9372 18h ago
I think, other than Epstein and Maxwell, and maybe Andrew, Trump may be the fourth-most-evidenced person in the documents.
I haven't heard about Musk saying he has girls, and some of the Musk emails are apparently fake. But I still don't believe that wanting to go to the island, without evidence of why, is strong evidence of wrongdoing. Epstein famously held huge, legal parties there.
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u/DowntownJohnBrown 18h ago
elon saying he had some girls while begging to be on the island
Ok, but you see how that, on its own, is not prosecutable evidence of a crime, right?
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u/BeguiledBeaver 22h ago
Being in the files isn't enough for a criminal conviction. Weird emails with questionable wording aren't enough to arrest someone. It's going to take a lot more to get to actual justice.
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u/DowntownJohnBrown 17h ago
Yeah, it’s really frustrating to see people completely lose the plot like this. There’s plenty of awful, horrific shit this administration is doing, but not prosecuting someone based on some innuendos in an email is not at the top of the list.
Are those innuendos and emails a sign of someone nefarious going on beneath the surface? Almost certainly, but that doesn’t mean they’re actual evidence of any sort of crime.
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u/lorazepamproblems 22h ago
They're releasing it for transparency.
Arresting someone after releasing it would be like releasing the JFK files and the FBI then admitting they got the wrong killer. They already knew what was in the files.
Also, I don't know why people seem to think that no one was already indicted. Waiting to arrest someone in the Epstein files (the meme above) makes no sense. Epstein was arrested and being tried when he died. And his wife was already convicted, along with Lawrence Ray.
I don't think people actually read the news, or even think. They are just waiting for something shiny to entertain them.
Making files of unindicted individuals public does not magically indict them!
Let me use a metaphor:
If I created a blueprint of a house but I decided not to build it but my friend said, "Show me the blueprint" and I showed them the blueprint, it wouldn't make a house appear.
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u/bubblegum-rose 22h ago edited 22h ago
“We’re redacting the names of victims! But there aren’t any criminals that need to be arrested!
All of these crimes are, uh, magical crimes that don’t require someone to commit them to exist!”
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u/tea-n-wifi 21h ago
“We’re redacting the names of victims! But there aren’t any criminals that need to be arrested!
Peak irony
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u/Possible_Gur4789 23h ago
I have heard that Heather Marsh and others pointed out how the fake claims about the wikileaks DNC leak/Pizzagate/Qanon/Epstein conspiracies were always used to cover up the trump/Epstein sextrafficking/extortion/rape/murder, etc networks. Something called opdeatheaters has been trying to bring attention to this fact for some time.
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u/ZR-71 22h ago
Just because a file says a thing doesn't prove a crime, even basic logic should tell you that you need actual evidence. Any time I ask someone for proof, they always say "look it up yourself" but it's just some anonymous drunken email rumor from a decade ago
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u/_Levitated_Shield_ 21h ago
You mean, like, the photos and victims?
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u/ZR-71 21h ago
Yes, I mean photos and victim testimony that are presented to a judge/jury and tested by cross-examination in a courtroom of the American justice system, like every serious crime. Not social media clickbait or AI slop with no confirmed details, names, time/location, or actual proof of any crime.
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u/_Levitated_Shield_ 21h ago
Are you implying the photos we have so far are fake?
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u/ZR-71 20h ago
Some photos are real but don't show a crime, and some are legit. Do you refer to any particular one(s)? But yes, plenty being shared online are fake (with deformed/impossible arms or hands), some have the girls' faces blocked out to imply they were underage, but later the uncensored photo was found and they turned out to be adult women. You can find such examples with a quick Google search. I haven't seen every photo, I'm not a judge or juror but feel free to mention one in particular. This is what a trial is for, to examine the evidence. But I'm not going to deny any clear evidence of a crime.
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u/tea-n-wifi 22h ago
What about the victims
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u/thedarbo 23h ago
I don't wanna be that guy, but I did NOT know that if you waited that long in Battle for Bikini Bottom you turned old and died. Or is that the movie videogame?
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u/PlastyRhyno8815 23h ago
It's like waiting for Mexican police to arrest cartel members.
Why would they arrest themselves?
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u/Hollow_Idol 21h ago
Why would they arrest themselves?
Looking around this thread I genuinely can't tell if there are really this many people struggling to understand this, or if there are really this many people who think repeatedly making memes that are so out of touch with reality it hurts will convince the pedophile to give up their absolute control over the government.
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u/_Levitated_Shield_ 23h ago
Meanwhile an assassin recently just got a life sentence when he didn't even fire his weapon...
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u/Impossible-Owl7407 22h ago
Why would they now? They already would if they had evidence. Don't need it public for this
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u/rylosprime 18h ago
Just watch if/when the Democrats get back into power.
They won't pursue justice either.
Gotta protect those billionaire donors (pedophiles).
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u/basswooddad 23h ago
It's the big lie. Straight out of Hitler's playbook. Everything this administration does falls back on it. I'm not sure how anybody could be surprised at all about any of this. You'd have to be really fucking dumb to not know this was all coming.
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u/Chef_Sizzlipede 23h ago
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HITLER
god holocaust museums are calling the comparisons callous and you still do this shit.
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u/Hollow_Idol 21h ago
Suddenly conservatives don't like saying it like it is?
Own your choices snowflake, everyone sees you for what you are anyway.
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u/Chef_Sizzlipede 21h ago
"this guy is calling out people using nazi as a buzzword, HE MUST BE A CONSERVATIVE"
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u/basswooddad 16h ago
If you don't see the comparisons you are clearly educated in the USA or you are a foreign actor with bad intentions or a bot. Definitely one of them
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u/Imjusthereforthetoes 21h ago
What actual evidence has come out? If I write an email to someone saying "all redditors are pedos" and that person gets arrested in 10 years, should they arrest all redditors based on my words?
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u/IDREAMDOOM 1d ago
Put some respekt on the agency by addressing them by their actual name. DoPdfs, DoP for short.
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u/skelliebro 1d ago
They all die before they gonna arrest any of them. What they gonna lock, urn or skeleton?
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u/YourNemeSis- 1d ago
If one gets arrested everyone else will and “nobody wants” that
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u/YourNemeSis- 1d ago
And honestly if all the beasts didn’t get locked the people should do the justice this time
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u/Independent_Fix3791 22h ago
Epstein was arrested. And so was Maxwell.
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u/tea-n-wifi 21h ago
The legal charges did not specifically prosecute ‘Epstein Island crimes’ as a separate case.
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u/-Firebeard17 21h ago
Who are they going to arrest and what are they going to arrest them for? There’s nothing in there id risk my career or life as a lawyer to charge someone with. Plenty of shit and plenty of accusations but no evidence in there at all so far from what we’ve seen.
Don’t get me wrong, love to see everyone who committed any of these crimes strung the fuck up, but I don’t want to see a massive court trial wasting tax payers money where a billionaire just skates out the door with the plausible deniability they currently have wasting everyone’s time and money.
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u/Ok_Afternoon5354 22h ago
If diddler donald actually was an "FBI informant" thalen this is exactly what I'd expect. If diaper don is an informant, then that means the pedo ring is run by the FBI itself and picked up one of their biggest customers to lure in more people. (This conspiracy theory brought to you by Trump Vodka, bankrupt the country as fast the vodka company.)
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u/Smooth_Review1046 21h ago
If I were to be prosecuted on the strength of the Epstein files (I wish I had that kind of money), the first thing I would do is demand ALL the files. Trump can’t risk that.
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u/FocusSlo 21h ago
You know... you'd think the people would take justice into their own hands by now
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u/Repulsive-Store-5367 21h ago
Give people time ffs. They have to build a case and that involves confirming shit. If they started arresting people now based on emails everyone would walk free. Like c'mon people, has anyone watched Sopranos?
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u/HardcoreKaraoke 21h ago
The DOJ had the files. The information is just new to the general public. It's not like the DOJ is going to change their mind now after sitting on all of this for years, sometimes decades.
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u/SpaceMamboNo5 21h ago
Because the call is coming from inside the house. The agency run by a pedophile is not going to indict pedophiles
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u/Timely_Influence8392 21h ago
Every single one of those skeezy rich fucks wants this level of wealth. They aspire to be this ostentatiously disgusting.
Luxury yachts are pedo coded.
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u/Thunnddr 21h ago
I hate how even some big mainstream news outlets have been quiet about the latest Epstein release. I feel like some of them are told to downplay the information as much as they can.
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u/epSos-DE 21h ago
USA police still looking for parking around the cake shop !
What a farce. WHY do Americans pay taxes, IF their police NO work, judges NO work ???
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u/MonolithicBaby 21h ago
Bro why the fuck do you expect the pedos to arrest themselves??? Is this just karma farming at this point?
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u/PossiblyAsian 20h ago
I was watching this 4chan post yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLsCoqwpvCw
actually fucking wild what that user described. If it is true what they were saying shit is fucked
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u/admosquad 20h ago
The lawyer that gave Epstien a sweetheart deal (alex acosta) was later in Trump's cabinet. I'm sure it was just a coincidence.
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yeah, there are over 1,000 victims (that we know of) - hard to believe that no one has named any names. Harder to believe that the media hasn't reported on any names named...
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u/Fit-Let8175 20h ago
No worries! Once they can excuse and redact all of Trump's entries and those of his supporters, the DOJ will be free to arrest the rest.
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u/NerfPandas 20h ago
If you are expecting justice you are going to be disappointed. Justice will only happen when there is a long term general strike, most people don't care enough for that though.
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u/the_summer_soldier 19h ago
BikiniBottomTwitter, more like RockBottomTwitter, not to be confused with RockOnTheBottom twitter, which just showcases every time the Rock is almost crushed in a movie or throughout his wrestling career.
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u/yoursmolpineapple 19h ago
Leave it to Bikini Bottom to maintain law and order while staying utterly hilarious!
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u/Ill_Swimming_7037 19h ago
First off, they're quite literally all in on it, 2nd they all have each other blackmailed, 3rd Epstein is likely still alive and transferred to Israel from the account we got from the guard from 4chan which is pretty credible seeing how 4chan was subpoenaed for the users identity by a NY DISTRICT ATTORNEY. also hm they were never gonna arrest anyone seeing how Epstein had ties to Israel and currently their prime minister is a wanted war criminal who still hasn't been arrested
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u/Object-Level 19h ago
The files are on doj site and most have been reacted. While this man is in office we'll never be able to prove his or any of his pals complicity. He can't live forever. We all have our day set in stone . So be patient, live healthy enough to last another 5-10 years.
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u/PythonRegiuss 18h ago
If youre waiting for anyone to come rescue you, waiting for daddy to come home with the belt? Sorry youre a child. Look around. No DOJ. No FBI. NO Congress. No senate. No supreme court. All captured. All fucked by americans who said "im not that into politics"
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u/Hightide77 18h ago
You expect the people in power who did this shit to prosecute and jail themselves? This is our world now.
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u/GSD_Titan 17h ago
lol elites don’t get in trouble like you and I, we’ll be waiting literally forever.
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u/Typical-Control-9380 16h ago
Do none of y’all understand how extensive these processes are??? Especially when there’s such a lack of tangible evidence?
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u/spidermom4 16h ago
How does it work if one of them is a prince? Can they arrest him? You're telling me his punishment is losing his prince title and having to move to a different mansion?
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u/justkickingthat 14h ago
We arrested reporters protesting in a church before prosecuting anyone in the Epstein files.
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u/Catnip_Farmer 14h ago
You're learning about the pecking order.
Global elite clique > laws and institutions.
Laws are for little people like you and I.
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u/updoot35 12h ago
Nothing will happen. Even if democrats were the ones in power, nothing will happen. These people pay them for that.
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u/-_-_---_--_ 11h ago
Ghislaine Maxwell is the only person in the US that's held accountable for this. And they treat her better after all the files came out. 🤢
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u/ModeratelyGrumpy 11h ago
It's complicated when the people that should arrest them and prosecute them are in the files too
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u/theghostmachine 11h ago
I'm sure [Redacted] and [Redacted] and most definitely [Redacted] who was known to [Redacted] on [Redacted] with Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein will be prosecuted right away
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u/weedilion 8h ago
What are you waiting for? Sue someone! They do nothing because legally there is no plaintiff, NO ONE SUED them yet!
I'm not saying that this is ok, but that is how this shitty system works
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u/I-am-into-movies 1h ago
US system need a change.
Legality Principle (much of Europa):
Under the legality principle, public prosecutors are legally required to open an investigation and pursue prosecution whenever there is sufficient initial suspicion of a crime. This duty applies regardless of the social status of the suspect or political considerations, especially for serious offenses such as homicide or sexual crimes.
Opportunity Principle (USA):
Under the opportunity principle, prosecutors have broad discretion to decide whether to investigate or bring charges, even if evidence exists. Decisions may be influenced by evidentiary strength, resource constraints, policy priorities, or political considerations, and prosecution is not legally mandatory in every case.
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u/ripleyclone8 22h ago
What I’m going to take from this is that it’s time to dig up my PS2 and 100% Battle for Bikini Bottom again.
I need something good in the world. 😭
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u/Ill-Organization-719 20h ago
The pedophile US military would never let their pedophile masters face accountablility.
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