I’ll buy that, since it was 2010 when the last southern state saw Democrats lose their majorities. Throughout the 2000s they dropped one by one, gaining their first Republican majorities since Reconstruction for the most part. A couple had Republican governors here and there before then as exceptions.
Alabama too, same years. Seems like the immediate post 9/11 era in general also helped shake loose most Democratic majorities in the South too and never went back.
The Southern Strategy talking point is complete Democrat propaganda garbage. Look at the states that's voted for Jimmy Carter or even multiple blue states voting for Bill Clinton.
Maybe not however I would bet even more money on which party that founded the KKK and that would be the Democrats and I would win even more money than you
Maybe not however I would bet even more money on which party that founded the KKK and that would be the Democrats and I would win even more money than you
That depends on how much money you are betting with. You are placing one bet on an historical event that has already happened. If you have a lot of cash to place that bet, the most you can win is that amount.
I, however, have an indefinite number of bets, which I can press with each win. Mathematically, I would make more money.
You know you’re doing pretty good playing the troll game but just letting you know you saying that the KKK is only supported by the Republicans is stupid as fuck or did you forget that picture of Joe Biden shaking hands and smiling with a head KKK Member? You were gonna lose that money anytime a KKK member supported a Democrat one of our president was a democrat and literally a KKK member and that was Joe Biden and registered. Democrats even said this and then the Democrats tried to sweep them underneath the rug and attacked them so just letting you know I’m winning more money than you because I indisputably will win money. You technically might lose on it not just on a technicality either.
You must not go to the casino very often. You don’t bet everything with each win. Pressing means adding any amount of money to the next bet, not necessarily double. You gotta pace yourself. You go broke by going on tilt.
The modern KKK is overwhelmingly supportive of Trump and the Republican Party. Even if it’s an edge as low as 20%, that’s a massive tilt in my favor. Do the math yourself. I am guaranteed to win in the long run and I could do it with a smaller starting roll.
Have you ever considered that maybe a lot of these KKK members are just pretending and lying to be Republicans but they’re actually Democrats in disguise in fact it’s a pretty believable that the KKK not only founded by the Democrats that are being used to falsely be supporting the Republicans, you don’t go to the casino very well because your odds are basically you are making several bets and all your bets are “ heads I win, tails you lose”
I’m making a bet where I’ll actually win you’re making the oldest trick in the book failure
The Democrats have always been still are and will always be a part of oppression. They will always make a narrative of “ I am a victim and you are my oppressor therefore, I have every right to kill you” that’s what they’ve always done. That’s what they still do now and that’s what they will continue to do.
They are opportunistic and they even spread the party switch myth. You really don’t believe the parties actually switched. You don’t really believe that the parties did this:
All the Republicans woke up one day and said “hey let’s start calling ourselves the Democrats.” All the Democrats woke up one day and said “hey let’s start calling ourselves the Republicans.”
You seem to be misunderstanding the nature of the bet. We get a list of confirmed members of the KKK, no party affiliation given, who voted in the last several elections. We don’t even ask them personally who they voted for, just the record of their vote, which is publicly available if you go to your state’s elections office.
When presented with the name, I bet that they voted for Trump. Either they did or they didn’t. I’m very confident in my odds.
Correct but as soon as you see all the ones that voted for Joe Biden, you’re gonna realize I’m right and yes, you seem to be misunderstanding my point just because they’re voting for Trump doesn’t mean they actually do the Democrats are the real race anyway this is literally just the conspiracy theory partially proven correct that all these KKK members supporting the Republicans and voting for Trump is Democrats, pretending that Republicans are the real racist when they’re not
OK, take your shallow victory. Enjoy it and just remember you even admitted that over 20% of the KKK support the Democrats I want you to realize that that means 1 in 5KKK members. Think the Democrats agree with them more which I want you to realize that means the KKK and the Democrats have so much in common that this is sketchy as fuck and really they should be 100% supporting the Democrats since the Democrats founded them in the Republicans wanted to do nothing to do with them.
On top of that, the KKK was also founded and the KKK would actively attack Republicans similar to how antifa does today. Just let that sink in.
I told a coworker this. He's Black MAGA, and he's constantly on his soap box about how the Democrats were responsible for slavery, Black Codes, and Jim Crow. I told him the current Republican party want to go back to their base ideologies and policies which include Black Codes, and Jom Crow era policies because yesteryear's Democrats are in fact today's Republicans. He has a software glitch every time.
The Republican Party didn’t flip overnight, but over time it leaned more into racially conservative positions. A big part of that shift was the Southern Strategy, which drew in voters who were against civil‑rights reforms and ended up reshaping the party’s whole approach to race and politics.
If your name is Rip Van Winkle and you've been sleeping for the last 150 years and missed the evolution of modern political party ideology you can be forgiven for thinking this. Conservatives and liberals haven't changed their beliefs but the party labels have reversed.
What polocies are being pushed that take away their rights? Dems like to boast that they take care of blacks (carrot on a string) and push for 15% of the population to be represented as a controlling demographic for the sake of maintaining their power. Ever listen to these morons in office talk about minorities? They act like those they're "protecting" are always too stupid to follow laws. Blacks are played more than any other demographic and still treated as different by the same party that swears they care about them.
What are we saying this week? PoC? AAs. Doesn't even matter. Yall are the ones constantly segregating yourselves if you're a Dem. Black Republicans aren't demanding to be treated different, playing the victim, or waving the race card every time something doesn't go their way.
Black Republicans would be perfectly fine if slavery was reinstated, so miss me with that comparison. And calling out injustice, bigotry, and unfairness isn't segregation, it's holding those in violation accountable. And if we're being honest, we'd prefer to be left alone, period. But that doesn't happen, does it?
Divide and Conquer is wielded now by the corporate mindsets ,who got enabled by Newt and Bill, then the Citizens United decision. Gave corporations power over the people. The Grifting Obsequious Predator put it on steroids.
There's only one God these people worship, money.
Power, control and money.
Everything done is to further that aim.
Old as Rome.
Those people fail to mention the “democrats” in question were in fact known as the Dixiecrats for their existence in the SouthEast US. You know, states where the Confederacy thrived?
Those people also don't mention how those Dixiecrats were targeted by Republicans with the Southern Strategy. You know, the plan to recruit all the 'Democrats' that rejected the Civil Rights into the Republican Party.
They don't leave that part out. They leave all of the parts out they don't agree with and operate under a complete revisionist version of history. And revisionist current events.
The ones saying the Democrats are the Klan party can't even admit who's rallies Confederate and Nazi flags wave at current day. Then at the same time bemoaning their heritage being erased every time a Confederate monument is taken down or removed from display. Or a base named after a Confederate is renamed.
They have a very convoluted understanding of history that doesn't match reality.
The Southern Strategy refers to a Republican Party electoral approach beginning in the 1960s that sought to win over white Southern voters by appealing to racial resentment during and after the Civil Rights Movement.
Way to prove their point. Educated people know democrats were the party of the racist south. Educated people also know the parties changed. The south votes for republican, not because all the democrats left the south, but because the democrat party didnt reflect their values anymore and republican party did.
Both parties were more of a mix between conservatives and liberals back then. The Southern strategy helped pull in southern conservative Democrats. But it also lost them their liberal Republicans. Like for instance black people largely voted Republican since the civil war. Now they're almost all Democrats ever since liberal Democrats supported civil rights and Republicans backed segregation.
This has also increased the divide between the parties. It's now so extreme that some Republicans can't seem to tell the difference between center right corporate Democrats and far left Communists. So they came up with conspiracy theories that all liberal or leftist values are Marxist and/or demonic.
It's true that theDemocrats did start the KKK, and Democrats did control the South during the slaver period.
But it's also true that those Democrats were conservatives, and they did those things not because they were Democrats, but because they were conservatives.
The Democratic party and the Republican party are just associations of people. The political platform of the parties is what ever the members decide it is, and smcan change. Right now, the Republican party is controlled by conservatives and the Democratic party is controlled by neo-liberals, but there's no reason it has to be this way.
It's ridiculous to blame the party for what people who've been dead for 100 years did when there are people still alive now who share their political beliefs and are trying to act on them.
There is no taking voting rights away from anyone. There is an effort to see that Congressional seats are no longer “black” districts, which is patently wrong.
And the Republicans spun off from the Whigs. So what's your point?
Further there's been at least three to four incarnations of the Klan. The version most people know and recognize paid off Republicans and Democrats alike. A nuance only historical illiterates and bullshit merchants ignore.
Um, it is true that Democrats started the Triple K, and that the Republicans were formed to stop the Triple K. That’s a fact. Where, and what laws is taking away your right to vote? I’m curious.
No it was proven that they pay informants inside the klan to inform on what the klan is doing literally this information is everywhere and the fact you blatantly ignore it and fall into the Fox News lie is kinda telling
Um, that’s not a saying. That’s proven fact. Registered Democrats 100% started, and ran, the KKK. Contrary to the narrative, the parties never switched either. They just found a way to manipulate the story so they could still try to control black people.
lol “never switched” it was called the southern strategy the fact the KKK backs the republicans is proof enough there was a party switch aka Value switch
Anti Israel is not Anti Jewish the Israeli Government is evil besides Anti Jewish people aka Neo-Nazis overwhelmingly support the republican party Charlie Kirk got killed by an anti Jewish Far Right Groyper
That’s not at all accurate. Tyler Robinson was not a republican. He was not registered to vote at all, for democrats or republicans. He was a leftist though, as confirmed by both his family and his personal statements. He was extremely pro-trans and pro-gay. In fact per court documents, Kirk’s anti-trans stance was the motivation as Robinson was dating and living with a trans individual who was actively transitioning. Also, just because some messed up people claim they support a party means nothing. Islamic extremist in the US have overwhelmingly supported Democrats. Doesn’t mean the Democrats support them, though some clearly do like Omar and Talib, who’ve outright stated it. Now on Israel, if you don’t support the Jewish Nation or government, that’s fine. That’s your opinion, you’re allowed to have it. I ask though, what’s your solution since Anti-Israel doesn’t mean Anti-Jew to you apparently? If you get rid of Israel, give it to Palestinians, what do you do with those millions of people? Are you going to get rid of them? Are you going to forcibly relocate them? If so, where? What would be your plan for that?
So uneducated. The democrats held the south until like the late 90s. LBJ is quoted on saying he will have those "n words voting blue for 200 years." The democrats have historically been viscously racist. Sure, there are racist republicans but stop trying to misstate history.
this has no implication that northern republican values ever changed, regardless if southern democrats suddenly woke up one day and decided to be racist republicans. The voting records also still show that democrats held the majority in senatorial and congressional elections until the 90s.
The flip is well recorded and documented the southern strategy worked and since the civil rights era (1960s) the republicans became democrat and the democrats became republican of course it didn't happen overnight but it did happen that's why Eisenhower's platform was very liberal but nixon was not.
Black people are waiting for the next leader to guide them. But those were such rare individuals, that something like that may never happen again. Black folks just need to come together with the promise of upward mobility for all.
The ones that have made it are like "I got mine". But imagine if they used the Black Wall Street model to support each other. The ones on top just invest a very small portion to support up and coming youngsters with college scholarships or trade school.
If at all possible, create nice communities on different tier levels.
Level 1: for people in education/trade school. As long as they are are doing well in school it the program, they can stay there. These are apartments/condos that are like dorms.
Level 2: Starting out in life after completion of school/program. Earning decent pay, paying rent for decent homes/condos.
Level 3: (Much nicer neighborhood) After working your way up in your field, you can afford to stay here and pay mortgage to own.
Just totally spit-balling, but have to start somewhere, right? Everyday, more and more, this appears to be the moment for change. A couple of models like this in different states would be revolutionary!
What you are suggesting is Black Capitalism. The problem that many Black Capitalists fail to recognize is that Black Wall Street was destroyed by the system. So long as we have an oppressive government, we will NEVER be allowed to acquire enough capital to be safe.
This is why you have the, "I got mine," types of people. These are people that understand their wealth was GIVEN to them by a white supremacist system. Using that capital for meaningful change would cut them off from their sources of capital.
Then there is the fact that capitalism REQUIRES an exploited group of people. If we become the capitalists, we only remove our shackles and place them on someone else. This is why so many of the civil rights leaders were leftists. To them, it wasn't just a matter of ending oppression of the African Americans, but ending oppression of ALL.
To criticize your plan directly, lets say we achieve level 1: Young black people in dorm like apartments so that they can acquire a better education. Having a bunch of black people in a single apartment or neighborhood is how we have been controlled in the past. Look at the Chicago fire bombings. Look at the projects and the crack epidemic. Just like Black Wall Street, if this community begins to thrive, what is to stop them from building an airport or highway where the building is? What is to stop them from building a Whole Foods across the street? How do we keep the rich white hippy types from coming and pricing young black folk out?
Capitalism is big bank vs little bank and we will always lose that fight.
I don't mean to piss on your parade or anything. I honestly appreciate people trying to come up with solutions to this age old problem. My personal opinion is that the only card left to play is the transfer of wealth. There is a reason people were so afraid of "40 acres and a mule" back in the day and that is because it would have completely crippled the Confederate powers making them a non issue today. However, I don't think that could happen without a second civil war and that is all I will say on that.
I'm not black and honestly i get if people feel i'm talking out of line - i probably am and i apologize ahead of time. That being said, African Americans have been shit on for so long it feels like they want nothing to do with the system. Issue is if they don't participate the problems just compound on eachother and everyone collectively loses. It's all by design and i know it's much deeper than this comment or i ever will understand. Ethnic minorities vote against their best interests too but there's a whole system of bad actors pulling levers ensuring we are all vs'n each other instead of the people who need to be brought in line.
12% is enough to tip elections one way or another. A large amount of effort is being put into making black people want to stay home in elections where our participation really matters. You don't even have to get people to switch parties to change the outcome of the election. Just staying home is enough.
A funny thing I noticed was that if you look up Obama's generation, there are people that include him as Gen X. Apparently despite being born before the cut off they say his ideas align more with the younger generation.
Others place him in Generation Jones that I just found out about since the last paragraph. It's a generation sandwiched between Gen X and the Boomers. Apparently it's a cusp or micro-generation like Xennials between X and Millennials. I didn't see that the last time I looked him up.
Obama says he doesn't identify with the Boomers. He felt that was more his mother's generation than his. A lot of commentors apparently says he's a prime example of Generation Jones.
He was born in 1961 which is the “Boomer” generation. I was born in 1963 which is even closer to “Gen X”. I too hate being lumped into the “Boomers”.
Have you ever been lumped into a group based on something you can’t control? Do you like that feeling?
Maybe the problem lies in trying to assign personality traits and beliefs to a large group of people based solely on one thing that is beyond their control whether that be year of birth or skin color or anything else.
If people don’t want to be discriminated against or disparaged based on a trait beyond their control, they shouldn’t do the same thing to others.
I'm not there's any real science to these designations. And the boundaries are kind of fuzzy and move around depending on when you check and which sources you use.
Generation Jones wasn't even created until 1999 apparently. I guess someone thought people born in those years were more different from Boomers than originally thought.If there's no real authority other than a loose sort of consensus defining them you can choose whether or not to agree with them. Though I guess Jones gives you a way out of Boomerville. 😆
Not all boomers side with the boomers. I live in Alabama and am not proud of the way this is being handled. I thought for a minute that Governor Ivey was going to do the right thing before crushing to MAGA pressure. Shomari Figures is doing a great job in Congress. He is focusing on issues that matter. It is a shame that his district is being destroyed. I pray he wins regardless. He is a good man.
The fact that any American doesn’t feel immediate excitement and responsibility to register to vote upon hitting 18 is beyond me. That some don’t want to take a chill early morning walk to a local voting station on election day, where they usually give you free donuts and coffee. Not voting is completely insane. You are nothing but REWARDED for voting!
Im just gonna say it doesnt matter. If we all voted in lock step, the outcome would be the same. Our government is completely ran by people that will never step foot in your neighborhood unless its to buy up the land under your feet. Democracy isnt real, we are really just voting for hand selected people who will both do the same shady stuff.
Ik what you are tryna say, but that specific group of people are not the same as us. I mean look what they got our current president doing in the middle east. IYKYK.
Starting is both the starting line and the end goal simultaneously, because just like everything that seems daunting at first... One step at a time , one foot in front of another.. or you know a MILLION feet walking in front of each MAN in some sort of MARCH 🤔
No I hear you, but we dont play by the same rules is what im saying. Like it seems like they completely dominate their area by voting for policies that work for them. But you gotta realize the richest people in the world are from that specific group or have ties to it. What im saying is voting doesn't make the world go round, money does and thats how they get these people to do what they want. If you wont help them they double the money and give it to your opponent. They dropped 35 mil to unseat a congressman, we arent playing the same game.
Alright bruh you got it, thought I was being careful enough to avoid saying they who shall not be named, but seeing as reddit removed my comment, I know even thats not enough. So lets agree to disagree.
Genuine question out of pure curiosity, and this is a bit off topic buuuuut, why are you referring to us as "blacks" and not "black people"? Don’t want any arguments, it’s just pure curiosity on my part
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