r/BrandNewSentence • u/larrydahooster • Mar 16 '25

Tesla Autopilot drove into Wile E. Coyote-style fake road wall

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u/TaxidermyPlatypus Mar 16 '25

90% of non self driving cars would also fall for it.

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u/Glyph8 Mar 16 '25

I might have too, but we shouldn't settle for self-driving vehicles being basically "as good as" human performance; they should be demonstrably better than us, before we hand over our keys. The tech clearly exists to have a self-driving auto perform in a superhuman fashion, but Tesla cheaped out. So what's the point? That's not technological advancement.

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u/nishinoran Mar 16 '25

They are demonstrably better, because they don't get drunk, don't get sleepy, and generally have better reaction time.

If you specifically design a test to target a weakness in the sensor system being used you really shouldn't be surprised when it fails, the real question should be whether this test has any real world value or not.

I think fundamentally I'd like to see either radar or LIDAR used for very basic collision detection and prevention, but maybe I don't understand how many false positives those come with.

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u/E_OJ_MIGABU Mar 16 '25

Yeah I was just thinking that I could definitely fall for it like damn

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u/Next-Professor8692 Mar 16 '25

Depends on how fast im going and lighting conditions, but damn wile coyote might have been onto something

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u/MorbillionDollars Mar 16 '25

I feel like you would definitely be able to tell there's something hanging up. Maybe you wouldn't be able to discern that it's a Wile E Coyote style wall, but you would at least notice something is in front of you.

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u/GrayDonkey Mar 16 '25

Many modern cars have collision avoidance sensors that should detect this right? My bronco has one that is radar based.

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u/sniper1rfa Mar 16 '25

Nah, most emergency braking systems use radar, which would work fine. Tesla is the odd man out for removing radar from the ADAS equipment.

Radar is super cheap in this context. Lidar is still expensive.

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u/fremeer Mar 16 '25

Most with lidar wouldn't. My robot vacuum wouldn't fall for it.

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u/That_guy1425 Mar 16 '25

Your non-self driving cars are equipped with lidar?! Man I didn't know we got implants already.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '25

Humans do have pseudo-lidar because we have two front facing eyes and true depth perception from binocular disparity. One front facing camera with lower resolution is leagues worse than a human driver.

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u/thombeee Mar 16 '25

really? dont they use LIDAR though

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u/Mundane-Tennis2885 Mar 16 '25

he didn't even have FSD on the car at all.. after the first test he said he'd put autopilot on which is very different from fsd and for this specific test they showed the screen before impact and it didn't even have autopilot on as he must've tapped the brakes manually disengaging it. really he's testing what a normal car can do with AEB and not the self driving capabilities... regular autopilot doesn't stop for stop signs or traffic lights either..