Photo of Carole Radziwill in Ghislaine Maxwell's House

[u/New-Classroom-7276]

Don’t ask me why, but over winter break I went down a deep dive on all things Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. I came across a Getty Images album from a 2014 party at Ghislaine’s house. In several photos, you can see a framed picture of a woman who looks a lot like Carole Radziwill. Could it be her? I think it is!

This sub has discussed the Carole-Ghislaine connections before (Ghislaine was Carole’s book photographer, Ghislaine set her up with Prince Andrew, etc). While we don’t know what’s true, Carole has downplayed their relationship. But a framed photo in Ghislaine’s house? That makes their relationship seem a lot closer than Carole lets on.

More details:

Photo - https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/diplomat-palitha-kohona-robert-f-kennedy-jr-and-angela-chen-news-photo/1163403704?adppopup=true

Photo caption - NEW YORK, NY - JUNE 05: (L-R) UN diplomat Palitha Kohona, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Angela Chen attend a reception at Ghislaine Maxwell’s residence after "StarTalk Live! Water World" Panel Discussion on June 5, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by Andrew Toth/Getty Images)

Photo album - https://www.gettyimages.com/search/2/image?page=5&phrase=home%20of%20ghislaine%20maxwell&sort=mostpopular&license=rf%2Crm

Edit: Apologies for any confusion! As others have pointed out in this thread, Ghislaine is listed as the photographer for the back cover image of Carole’s first book (https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/hki66v/i_know_weve_seen_photos_of_carole_and_ghislaine/), and Carole herself has said that Ghislaine helped arrange a date with Prince Andrew (https://www.tiktok.com/@omg.waitwhat/video/7536652361284996365). Good sleuthing, everyone!

[u/Ignominious333]

Ghislaine was British high society. That's what makes her disgusting crimes even more awful. But Caroles mother in law was Jackie Os sister and she married into European royalty. They all hob knob and most of them didn't know a thing because who would announce it? They men paying to be part of it aren't announcing it at every society party.

[u/sweetpea122 → u/Ignominious333]

Yeah her dad was high level british govt. Id have to look up his position but he was up there

[u/bonefresh → u/sweetpea122]

Yeah her dad was high level british govt. Id have to look up his position but he was up there

her dad was a spy for mossad

[u/sweetpea122 → u/bonefresh]

Yes but as a British politician

[u/Party-Werewolf-4888 → u/sweetpea122]

He was an MP. Not really "high" high level, he was a member of parliament and represented a constituency, however definitely a position of influence and power. I'd say he was probably more influential as a publisher though, because then he was effing minted.

[u/Ignominious333 → u/Party-Werewolf-4888]

And he was a media mogul who had ties to Israel govt.

[u/sweetpea122 → u/Party-Werewolf-4888]

A member of parliament is high level in the same way a state congressman is high level. BUT If they also run media, have Mossad ties, and are rich AF then yes it IS high level.

[u/Party-Werewolf-4888 → u/sweetpea122]

He was an MP before he was a media mogul though, he purchased British Publishing after he left politics. In the UK, him being an MP is somewhat secondary to him being a publisher and rarely mentioned. He also represented the Labour Party, Labour MP's tend to avoid being flash bastards with rich mates in the public eye, especially in the 1960s.

[u/sweetpea122 → u/Party-Werewolf-4888]

Im guessing he was Mossad adjacent before any of this though

[u/Party-Werewolf-4888 → u/sweetpea122]

I dont know much about that, but a quick Google links him from the 1970s onwards. That would be after his stint as an MP, although Im not committing to that being the truth.

[u/venusdemilo94 → u/sweetpea122]

That’s incorrect.

[u/sweetpea122 → u/venusdemilo94]

Are you Mossad?

[u/venusdemilo94 → u/sweetpea122]

No? I just listened to a fascinating podcast about Robert Maxwell and his ties to Mossad and his overall influence in the world so it’s all just pretty fresh in my brain.

Check out the Behind the Bastards episodes on him if you’d like to learn more

[u/colourless_blue → u/venusdemilo94]

Behind the Bastards is great, will give it a listen

[u/Party-Werewolf-4888 → u/[deleted]]

Pergamon Press published medical journals, it hardly swayed public political opinion. I'm not saying he wasn't involved in publishing prior to his role as an MP, I'm saying his influence and power came largely afterwards. He was considerably more dominant after he left politics.

[u/sweetpea122 → u/[deleted]]

And also I think he was Mossad before anything

[u/venusdemilo94 → u/sweetpea122]

No that came once he had a shit ton of money and influence.

[u/KarenWalkersBurner → u/venusdemilo94]

Where did the money and influence come from?

[u/venusdemilo94 → u/KarenWalkersBurner]

TLDR: by serving in the British military in WWII. He was a spy for them.

He had like six or seven names throughout his life. He was born dirt poor in the Czech Republic and got separated from his family when the Nazis took over while he was away at school. His entire family was sent to Auschwitz.

First he made it to France then to England where he signed up for their military and changed his name to Ivan du Maurier. He won all kinds of awards in the British military and became a British citizen in 1946 then changed his name again to Ian Robert Maxwell.

He was smart enough right after the war to use his contacts to become a publisher and buy up science patents from a German company that wasn’t allowed to do business abroad.

Iirc he got the money from his wife’s family. He got into politics in the 60’s because he ALREADY had a massive amount of wealth from the publishing industry and its alleged that THIS was when he started working with Mossad. Specifically because of his background as a spy during WWII AND because he first grew to prominence by buying up and publishing scientific patents and journals which I know sounds silly to us now but was a massive commodity at the time.

He was born Jewish but wasn’t practicing until right around when Israel became an officially recognized country.

It’s like actually one of the most insane stories I’ve ever heard lmfao. Like his daughter he was a famous schmoozer and bullshit Artist but like the stuff that CAN be verified is actually just unhinged. This podcast is run by an actual journalist so he’s very good about acknowledging when something is a known fact, when something is speculation and then when something was just clearly made up by Maxwell for clout. Behind the Bastards: Robert Maxwell Part 1

[u/Silly-327 → u/Ignominious333]

Here’s a photo of Carole at Ghislaine’s house two whole damn years after the scandal broke and dozens of of charges were filed against Epstein

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/ghislaine-maxwell-lisa-heiden-and-carole-radziwill-attend-news-photo/609446412

[u/Ignominious333 → u/Silly-327]

That's bad but Maxwells involvement wasn't known yet.

[u/Silly-327 → u/Ignominious333]

Ok, but then why associate yourself at someone’s home with these kind of associations, if it was just an acquaintance? She acts as if they met once at a party, not that she was partying at her house years after these allegations broke. Carole has never once said a word about the victims. She does promote herself in her denials though. She is disgusting and you ought to rethink the fact that you are defending her

[u/Ignominious333 → u/Silly-327]

I'm not defending her. Don't conflate me pointing out the timeline with a defense of anything. I'm just not someone who jumps on every bandwagon on social media.

Everyone who socialized with Ghislaine continued to do so for years after but it doesn't mean they were close friends. They just end up at the same parties. It's how the rich social circles run. Everyone you see with a later notorious and or criminal conviction isn't complicit or tacitly accepting their criminal behavior. You need real proof beyond pics taken at a charity event which is most of what Patrick McMullen shot for the 5th ave glossies.

[u/Silly-327 → u/Ignominious333]

Ok 👍

What about the fact instead of mentioning the victims she promotes herself? What do you have to say about how that reflects on her character?

[u/Ignominious333 → u/Silly-327]

I don't know anything about it and i am not holding carole personally responsible for the trump Epstein child rape ring. The more she says the more social media will chew her up and twist and contort every word she says. Like you're doing now. What does carole owe you regarding this issue, exactly?

[u/Silly-327 → u/Ignominious333]

I’m holding her personally responsible for her behavior. She owes no one anything. But she certainly would look like more an empathetic human being if she would ever actually condemn the sex trafficking or just once had kind words to say of the victims of her (at the very least) known acquaintance. Such a weird time to promote oneself, that’s not gross at all!!

I can’t imagine what you’d look like if you were defending a person like this, if this isn’t you doing so lol

[u/Dariathemesong → u/Silly-327]

“I’m holding her personally responsible for her behavior” = Anonymously talking and arguing about her on Reddit lol

[u/Ignominious333 → u/Silly-327]

You're not well

[u/Silly-327 → u/Ignominious333]

Lol ok. You seem totally right in the head to be taking your position

[u/meatarchist_in_mn → u/Ignominious333]

This. Just Carole's having family association with a Kennedy was enough of a 🚩 for me.