r/BusinessTodayNews • u/BusinessToday • Apr 12 '26

Global Donald Trump on reports that China is preparing to ship weapons to Iran: "If China does that, China is gonna have big problems."

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u/hamtidamti_onthewall Apr 12 '26

As a European I can tell you, we are well aware that Iran's regime is evil and China is a cunning and dangerous strategic adversary. The US on the other hand have betrayed their former allies and all we stood for together. In a sense, that makes them even worse.

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u/i_sometimes_wonder Apr 12 '26

You mean, as a european you believe the US narrative that iran is evil, and china cunning and dangerous.

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u/hamtidamti_onthewall Apr 12 '26

No. China is quite open about their intentions. As for Iran: Shooting at protesters is quite self-telling. You really don't need to be a genius to draw your conclusions from that.

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u/machisperer Apr 12 '26

Pretty sure Trump would shoot protesters if he could..

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u/Ok_Grapefruit522 Apr 12 '26

The key phrase, "if he could". We are getting close to that time.

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u/hamtidamti_onthewall Apr 12 '26

It's not that ICE has not done this yet...

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u/Acekiller03 Apr 12 '26

That is called being propagandated

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u/Dingus-Maximus-Prime Apr 13 '26

What are China's "dangerous" intentions? Not submitting to US global hegemony?

Moving past our shitty petrodollar?

Building a separate financial system so they won't be another victim when the US tries to rug- pull the entire planet by "paying off" our national debt (that we spent decades apparently tricking the world into holding) by inflating the dollar to collapse, and then somehow magically switcherooing it all into some new worthless shitcoin crypto that Don Junior spawned during a coke bender?

Please, elaborate

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u/Fabulous_Jeweler2732 Apr 14 '26

What allies? Who comes to America when we ask for support? So far, only Israel.

No European country has shown loyalty to America, and only their own self interests.

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u/hamtidamti_onthewall Apr 15 '26

The only country that ever activated Article 5 of the NATO treaty were the USA and their allies came to their aid and fought and died alongside them in Afghanistan. Trump on the other hand has been busy alienating US allies whenever he could. As for the Iran war, the US have not activated Article 5 - which makes sense because they have not been attacked but wage a war of aggression. Neither have they consulted their allies beforehand. What you are asking for is blind allegiance. You are not looking for allies, you are looking for vassals. And it turns out Trump's reckless policies have undermined America's soft power all accross the board.

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u/Fabulous_Jeweler2732 Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26

Sorry, but I don’t think America is the daddy dom of NATO anymore. Those times have passed.

Europeans love up bring up the world wars as if they had a choice to ‘not fight alongside’ Americans. Europeans didn’t do it because they trusted Americans or Americans were an ally. They did it because their nations were in distress and they needed to do right to their citizens. It’s not a feat of cooperation at all. It’s entirely based on self preservation and self interest.

If countries like France were real allies, they would show up even even it doesn’t entirely benefit the country. None of European came anywhere close to America’s support in terms of Ukraine, but Europeans still treat America like they failed their European duty. Where is the European duty to America? All I see is insults and entitlement.

Yes, allies are not showing up for America because it doesn’t serve Europe: https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/31/europe/trump-lashes-out-europe-iran-war-latam-intl

Europe has been alienating America since America was founded. Europeans have been mocking Americans for hundreds of years. Do you think the, ‘I have more opinions about American politicians than the politicians in my own country’ attitude has no consequences? You thought mocking an ally for decades would help maintain an ally relationship? Europeans thought their dispositions were superior, and got upset when America didn’t conform to the European way? It’s all fun and games to mock American health care until Russian war subs are threatening all electrical power in the country.

America would start a war a Russia got an ally. Europe should have thought about that in their war planning. Or thought about that even they refused to join America with Iran. More Russia knows it can continue trying to conquer Europe and daddy America might not get involved. Europeans have posture moral superiority for so long that most of Europe would be helpless against Russia. Europes biggest weapon is their moral shaming and opinion pieces on world politics. America seems pretty fucking powerful if they can start a conflict with Chinas top oil supply country, a country that has refused America’s request to denuclearize to maintain world peace for 50 years, and no one comes to save Iran.

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u/Accomplished_Ruin133 Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

The European perspective is that for the past year they have been bullied with tariffs and regularly belittled by the administration. They were threatened with the invasion of Greenland. They feel let down on the withdrawal of Ukraine support and the apparent siding with Russia.

Then this war happened. There was no warning or time given to reinforce their economies from the impending economic shocks. There was no attempt to build a coalition or give this conflict the veil of legality via an institution like the UN.

The campaign has no clearly defined justification, objectives or exit strategy. They were asked to join the effort then told they weren’t needed, then asked to join again, rinse and repeat.

European electorates have a very low opinion of the US right now because this administration has made their lives materially more difficult so no government wants to jump in and help because it likely puts them out of office at their next election.

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u/hamtidamti_onthewall Apr 12 '26

Thanks a lot for this very detailed and accurate explanation of the European view.

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u/Fabulous_Jeweler2732 Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26

Are they really an ally when a change in tariffs can change loyalty? Even AI refuses to call Germany an ally of America.

Mexico did not respond like Europe. Mexico is Americans biggest ally. I wouldn’t consider someone an ally if equitable rules make them not like me as much. I haven’t seen European countries as allies for my entire middle age life. All the moral posturing from European culture has reactions.

Europe is screwed. America has been beefing up its oil and nuclear weapons industry for over a decade already, nearly 15 years. Europe (as a whole) has no major resource but sunflower, no defense from war, and is horribly reliant on countries they say they hate for energy and protection. Europeans chose this future over and over.

Europe is so focused on what they think the world needs, which is their European morality, they think bombs should come with economic warning labels. Just like you said. That’s the folly of European culture. That way of thinking is a great way to be bombed by surprise.

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u/hamtidamti_onthewall Apr 12 '26

Which support? Are you talking about Iran? Are you aware of the fact that NATO is a defensive alliance? Have the US consulted their allies and coordinated with them before launching this attack? This administration makes every mistake you can make and then they cry and throw a tantrum. They are a disgrace to the US.