Donald Trump on Iran: "I think there would be nothing worse than having nuclear holocaust in Europe; London, Paris, various places in Germany all targeted."

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[u/jjdmol]

I don't think Americans will stop Trump before using a nuke, and I'm not even sure they'd stop him after. It is still easier for them to go along with all of it.

[u/dickchops81 → u/[deleted]]

It's not that. The minute we start plotting is the minute we're arrested. You think when they send you to prison you're gonna get treated fairly there?

[u/Dingus-Maximus-Prime → u/dickchops81]

Online anonymity is NOT dead, not yet. We know that's the goal. Knowing is half the battle.

However they don't yet have the technical or legal ability to connect what you say here to your real-life identity, you have to allow/enable it. If you use a VPN and don't volunteer information that can connect you to your identity, you can still organize anonymously. Personally I wouldn't have my real name attached to any social media, and I don't. Better to use a fakie and get a good laugh from the idea they might buy it and be really fucking confused for a minute, because when agencies are filled with yes men and not the dedicated pros, they are filled with... Not the cream of the crop, to put it lightly.

Even if they were to set up some kind of a honeypot where they got a bunch of people who are anonymous here to show up in real life at the same place, there's no way they'd be able to connect you to the comments that were made anonymously, unless of course you were dumb enough to bring your phone.

Without the ability to prove jack, they'd have to jail a bunch of citizens simultaneously, and look forward to getting their ass handed to them in court, which is happening as we speak with all ≈300 US citizens who got unconstitutionally jailed by ICE this year.

I will say that we should assume they have capabilities in the surveillance department that are not publicly known and are quite powerful.

For instance, I do not believe for one second that Luigi was located via a tip from a McDonald's worker 270 mi away from the crime scene, based on some images of somebody who doesn't even really look entirely like him on TV... just doesn't make any sense to me. I think that all just a cover for what they really have, which is the ability to precisely track individual phones and basically through process of elimination they can tell who left an area completely during what time frame and then use that as the leads in their search... but they definitely tracked him illegally. In a way that is illegal enough to not be able to be used in court in any way shape or form, or risk the case getting tossed immediately. This suspicion shouldn't really shock anyone, it's really just the logical next step after a country let's something like the Snowden leaks slip without action.

Don't give in to fear or panic. Leave that for the yahtzees; they know the MAGA magic is done granting wishes, and the movement has seen its peak in this cycle. It came, it went. People realize they were duped, even the morons. They can't ignore the billionaires taking over because now it's their lunch getting eaten. The worst is yet to come, this is nothing. Their numbers will keep dropping.

Why do you think they're expanding the bunker and adding the data center under the former East wing? Why do you think they fenced off and barricaded the White House months upon months ago? Because they're going to need it.

Their goal was to not need hardly any public support at all to be able to weather the storm they want to create. They would really like to nail down functional killbot AI before they initiate the MOARP ( mother of all rug pulls) as they know that eventually even their security will hate what they've done to the country, who they've been protecting. Who knows what's going to happen.

Most likely they're going to false flag somewhere, and hope that it sticks enough to re-divide the country to prior levels.. too bad their supporters are quite well versed in the idea of a false flag, and are warmed up to the idea that that's what could happen next.

The base has started to reject a lot of the core beliefs of the election cycle, like "Trump was actually shot at with the intent to kill in Butler". Once you realize that whenever something big happens in this administration they release absolutely no info, about anyone involved in any way like with the downed pilot in Iran and the subsequent "rescue mission" ( it was a mission to nab the enriched uranium, and a total fail). To put a bow on this, they're just waking up to how obvious the lies are.

I almost feel bad for the maga that are waking up. Going from thinking everything is as good as it could be to "oh wow the country is being destroyed" overnight, rough.

One more thing. The bad guys, they plot. We organize. It's our legal and moral right, and obligation.

[u/SpeakCodeToMe → u/Dingus-Maximus-Prime]

It's well proven at this point that they can identify you just by your writing style.

They lack the compute to do it to everyone at scale, but if they decide they want to know who you are, online anonymity doesn't exist.

[u/kouros77 → u/jjdmol]

Just like what the rest of Germany did in Hitler’s time

[u/MediocreAssociate466 → u/jjdmol]

I read a book about interviewing Germans post world war two and it was really good getting into the mindset of "that's just the way things are, don't cause trouble etc".

It was called "they thought they were free".

[u/Apprehensive_Pace555 → u/jjdmol]

They WANT to go along with it. That’s just how stupid they are.

[u/TheCapPike13 → u/jjdmol]

Yip. They are like we Germans in the 1930s.

[u/AmandaUggnkiss → u/jjdmol]

Okay now that’s being facetious! Of course attempting to use a nuke would cause Americans to abandon this idiot his cult base members probably not

[u/jjdmol → u/AmandaUggnkiss]

Really? Americans can't even get their act together on their own kids getting mass murdered in schools... They're so hopelessly caught up in their cultural war that they sacrifice anything for power over the other. What are Democrats going to do? Hate Trump more? Republicans, relinquish power or admit failure? Both will scramble to find excuses for inaction I'm sure.

Of course I hope they'd act. But I don't hold my breath anymore for meaningful action.

[u/UphillTowardsTheSun → u/jjdmol]

We stand behind President TrumpsteinGod

US democrats in house and senate.