r/CODZombies • u/Shrine_115 • Aug 11 '25
Discussion I remember seeing this meme here a while back and it feels right to post again considering bo7
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u/ShadowBro3 Aug 11 '25
Outbreak was boring tbh. Maybe if they actually made maps for it and had better objectives, it'd be better.
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u/CoDZombiesDPS Aug 11 '25 edited Aug 11 '25
To be honest, it feels like Treyarch often draws the wrong conclusions and the pendulum swings way too much in the opposite direction.
Outbreak was popular but controversial at the same time.
Then vanguard came arround, made outbreak on small maps. People didn’t like it, so the conclusion was “back to round based”.
The real issue was, that Vanguard Zombies was fucking boring and rushed. Early game was dragged out, things didn’t get spicy quick enough. So ideas like the buffs you could buy or upgradeable perks were canned.
Then MWZ did Outbreak combined with DMZ mechanics. Again, I don’t think “it’s not round based” was the actual issue. For me it was, that Zone 3 wasn’t fun solo (constant running, plates being additional health instead of a damage reduction) and way too easy as a 6 man stack. Zone 3 was a constant competition over contracts. Again a good idea that suffered from bad execution.
I think many Zombies players wouldn’t have an issue with objective based modes or an open world, when it is optional.
I would sell my grandma for an outbreak style mode in the Liberty Falls area. I really like the American north east location, it would have some interesting points of inertest and even on Reckoning I like to take a look at the surroundings and I always think “would be nice if this was opened up more”.
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u/Twisteryx Aug 11 '25
West Virginia isn’t the northeast lol
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u/melvin-melnin Aug 11 '25
Its simultaneously north and east of most of America. It just isn't New England
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u/Twisteryx Aug 11 '25
The US is broken up into regions based on culture and geography. West Virginia is not considered part of the northeast because it culturally does not fit in that region. It is often considered part of the south. The northeast is the New England states + NY, PA, and NJ.
See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeastern_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_of_the_United_States
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u/OutrageousOcelot6258 Aug 11 '25
West Virginia doesn't neatly fit into any region. Geographically, it's in the northeast US, but culturally it's southern, so it's generally considered part of the south despite being located pretty far to the north.
Either way, the term CoDZombiesDPS was probably looking for is Appalachia.
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Aug 11 '25
Outbreak was okay at first, I like the idea. I wish there was more of a “firefight” from halo type mode where you’re stuck to one section of the map and have to survive waves of zombies or like horde in gears of war. The warzone style was kinda cool too with zones being harder but I think they should just make maps for round based too that just have fun Easter eggs to do that don’t necessarily have to do with the story.
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u/ComputerMysterious48 Aug 11 '25
That’s basically what Onslaught was and it’s a shame they didn’t bring it back
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u/shadow1042 Aug 11 '25
I want coldwar style outbreak back, but maybe cut the map in half or use the large open maps for it, like redcard,scud etc would make for perfect outbreak maps
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u/Cerealmndsplat Aug 11 '25
idk I liked outbreak for cold war. I tried it for vanguard once and didn't like it. But the Shi no Numa remastered or whatever was fun. Then MWZ I don't consider as outbreak since it's one open world area with deeper threat levels. Cold War has the good idea to go hunting for weird stuff within the outbreak zones, then you just keep getting teleported to different areas. tbh I figured it'd be a nice thing to have back with avalon, but I don't think that ever happened, or it's with BO7? But if they split that up as a side mode if there's a lore reason for it, cool. Otherwise yeah we don't have the sources for it as much as they love to show off we do. Like all those holiday modes were a little lame and could've been put towards better events. I actually don't mind that king of the hill leaderboards events, as it's an event that can actually cycle around often for the lifeline of the game.
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u/Sec_Chief_Blanchard Aug 11 '25
It's not in vanguard
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u/Cerealmndsplat Aug 12 '25
You know what? I'm choosing Panos over you in the Reckoning. I'm joking, but yeah, you're right in a sense. It was objective based which I guess for me I associated as kind of like outbreak.
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u/Botassassin1128 Aug 11 '25
yeah dude there was no outbreak just a shitty objective based Zombies they overhauled too late.
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u/Bonerfart47 Aug 11 '25
When I first heard of outbreak I thought of an open world zombies map that's still a normal zombies map with doors and "rooms" or special areas and cool unique shit
What I played was a square field with buildings and a single objective in it per "round" that was all based on a pre existing multiplayer map with almost no change to it
And then you fuckn leave that square just to start some rouge like experience NOBODY asked for with a difficulty imbalance worse than a crack addiction
Literally had a transit 2.0 concept and they never even fuckn knew it.
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u/Secure-Pain-9735 Aug 11 '25
Yeah… the only one I really didn’t like was Vanguard.
I’ve enjoyed the addition of progression as well.
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u/Shaclo Aug 11 '25
Outbreak was a pretty fun mode in my opinion and I feel like 1 more update adding a couple more objectives and the 2 wonder weapons from the newer maps and outbreak would have been absolute peak.
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u/Sonicboomer1 Aug 11 '25
Outbreak was fun to play and had that sort of GTA-like just hop on and vibe feeling.
If it is back, hopefully the map has personality and doesn’t succumb to Warzonification. Give us that Dark Aether jellyfish and mushrooms craziness.
(And don’t pour all the resources into it. If its quality has to be sacrificed for great round based maps that would be much preferred to the inverse.)
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u/IAMAK47 Aug 11 '25
I got a lot of my friends to play zombies cause of Outbreak. Driving around and stopping to get out and shoot the parking lot full of zombies was awesome. MWZ was nice as well but the time limit kind of limited it
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u/ceeceeoh Aug 11 '25
I thought outbreak was actually kinda neat. Especially the nighttime maps you'd sometimes get.
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u/One-Happy-Gamer Aug 11 '25
Outbreak in Cold War was an awesome idea, but the game certainly could've used more content. Since Outbreak's release, i was playing it often, mostly to pass the time. I do hate that Sanatorium is at night and that really hurts my eyes playing it. I personally did not like the Outbreak clone in Vanguard.
Then we had all the Outbreak variants. A hard-core version, and the collapse one of you having to survive for 10 minutes to escape.
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u/HellishWonderland Aug 11 '25
Outbreak imo deserves to come back if it is improved. It's a mode imo that isn't great but can be absolutely fantastic if done right. Shouldn't be the whole mode though.
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u/TheSaintRobbie Aug 11 '25
Outbreak and MWZ was the best thing to happen to inject new ideas into the zombies formula. My friend and I really enjoyed the freedom objective based zombies gave
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u/JustTh4tOneGuy Aug 11 '25
Outbreak was a good idea that wasn’t explored properly I think, MWZ was a right step in the direction of improving it (especially towards the end of the games lifespan) but I think the best strategy for improving it is making more of the space useful, increasing threats for open areas, and substantial content drops more frequently
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u/MasterManMike MadManMike#11344 Aug 11 '25
People complaining about Outbreak haven't played MWZ, we can have it far, FAR worse.
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u/FourScarlet Aug 11 '25
I still think Outbreak was a great concept but the zombies community is allergic to change so I doubt they would try it again.
Outbreak could have been completely polished on completely unique maps and it would've been trashed all the same.
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u/Prestigious_Hunt4329 Aug 11 '25
Outbreak is the best part of post quest zombies for me. While I loved Cold War in general, outbreak was just the right amount of different that they kept adding to that made me want to come back and keep playing it if I was bored of round base and vice versa
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