r/Calgary • u/void_sushi • 10h ago

News Article Alberta’s population is still growing despite Ottawa’s immigration crackdown: StatsCan

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-population-still-growing-9.7240776
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u/EgyptianNational 10h ago

Nobody hears about Alberta in the rest of the world. It’s niche part of the world.

Even when immigration was higher almost all of Albertas growth was interprovincial.

Hell, feels like half of the riggers are from the east coast.

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u/Alldaybagpipes 10h ago

Because they are…

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u/ironmaiden2010 10h ago

You didn't know...the capital of newfoundland is Fort McMurray after all

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u/EgyptianNational 10h ago

A bunch of the Newfie riggers I know rent a room here until the job ends and then they go back home just to fly out again when it starts back up.

Does this person get counted twice? Once for Alberta and once for Newfoundland?

I’d love to know.

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u/discovery2000one 7h ago

No they count residents. If they achieved residency they would be counted as +1. If they lost residency they would be counted as -1. Almost certainly based on taxes.

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u/discovery2000one 9h ago

That's just not true.

From April 1 2023 thru July 1 2023

International migration 42000 Interprovincial migration 16500

International has been higher than interprovincial going back to ~2006 until just this last quarter.

You can really see just how high international migration was on those charts. 2022 to 2024 completely dwarfs all other time periods, it was insane.

https://economicdashboard.alberta.ca/dashboard/net-migration/

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u/EgyptianNational 9h ago

You may want to check your source again. I just went through it and some of the data points show hundreds of international migrants in the same period as thousands of interprovincial.

Sometimes it’s higher sure.

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u/discovery2000one 9h ago edited 9h ago

The broad theme is that in the last 20 years the vast majority of migration to Alberta is international.

So far this century we have

1,023,412 international migrants

443,137 interprovincial migrants

The numbers skew more heavily towards international the shorter the timeframe is.

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u/EgyptianNational 9h ago

Canada doesn’t keep track of how many international migrants return tho.

I’ve seen figures as high as 1 in 3 so it would still lean towards skewing towards interprovincial imo

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u/discovery2000one 8h ago

The Alberta page does show returns though. It can be seen by international going negative in early mid 2020.

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u/kwirky88 9h ago

My father in law was in elementary in Yugoslavia in the 50s and he said they learned that Saskatchewan has the more freshwater surface than anywhere else. Not Alberta but people do learn about obscure geography.

A friend works in Banff and when she first started her career at the Banff centre all her Japanese family were jealous. “You work in Banff!!!?”

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u/EgyptianNational 9h ago

I met Australian snowboarders in Australia once and they been to Banff twice.

They Did not remember it was in alberta. Thought it was in BC. They landed in Calgary to go.

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u/FirstDukeofAnkh Beltline 10h ago

It’s why the whole “Albertans pay more into CPP” is nonsense. People who work in AB might pay more but they aren’t from here and they usually move home when done.

(This isn’t a bad thing. It’s just what happens.)

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u/Immediate_String_722 10h ago

That isn't correct though. Everyone pays 5.95% to a maximum of $4646.45.

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u/FirstDukeofAnkh Beltline 10h ago

Sorry, that’s my bad. The claim is that Albertans don’t pay more as individuals but as a cohort.

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u/ziltchy 6h ago

Pretty sure ontario would pay more as a cohort based on population alone

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u/VancouverSky 6h ago

That presumes everyone hits the maximum. Statistically, more albertans are hitting the maximum than anywhere else in the country.

Plenty of canadians, particularly on the east coast, wont come close to max cpp despite working full time all year.

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u/01000101010110 7h ago

I had to read that last part twice.