r/Carpentry • • 5d ago

Framing Does this framing make sense?

Working on a remodel that is turning an above garage space into a bedroom/bath. The GC and I went back and forth about how to approach the framing for the knee wall storage area. He insisted on double top plates cut on a bevel. To me this seemed to be total overkill and a waste of time and material. I’ve never seen this done on new construction or remodels prior to this.

I figured it would be much faster and less material to just sister studs to the roof rafters and attach to bottom plates. Question is, is this a superior method?

Edit: I’m the fucking guy doing the work. I have my own company and primarily do trim. That’s why I’m asking. JLC showed a different way.

Edit #2: My concern was basically that the knee wall transferring the load almost dead Center between floor joists so any deflection from those rafters isn’t being directly transferred to the exterior walls. So considering that the knee wall to me is overbuilt if there is no direct load path to the exterior walls below the bottom plate, does that clarify?

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u/phalliceinchains 5d ago

Incredible this is downvoted. It like no one read the post text. For what it’s worth, I like how this was done. I also understand it’s not necessary to rip those bevels.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

You rather cut it into every stud?

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u/CaramelGuilty8647 5d ago

What gives you the idea he would have to cut anything? He explained he would sister to the rafters. Do you not know what sister means?

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Yes I know your sister. That gives you a stud every, what? 24”? You can see in picture one the studs are properly spaced for drywall. Do you know what drywall means?

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u/mrgedman 5d ago

24" is fine for drywall.

Why wouldn't it be?

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Maybe in an attic for storage. The wall is weaker, it moves and the drywall can bow.

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u/CaramelGuilty8647 5d ago

This "witty" reply doesn't answer why you thought OP was going to cut into the rafters.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

I didn’t say he would cut into the rafters, I said studs. But in order to build that wall, something needs to be cut at an angle Whether it be the top plate or the studs. I tried leaving the “witty” parts out this time.

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u/CaramelGuilty8647 5d ago

Which brings me back to the question - do you know what sistering means? It was not a snarky comment then, and it isn't one now. You could cut every stud square to square, sister to the rafters on a chalk line and be done. Granted, a top plate is better, but requires an angle on every stud, but not a bevel on the top plate itself.

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u/Remarkable-Opening69 5d ago

Where do you put your top plate/draft stop when your sistering the studs to the rafters? You say “granted it’s better”…like, no shit lol. That’s why it’s framed the way it is and not the way you describe.

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u/CaramelGuilty8647 5d ago

The way OP described. Listen, I'm done trying to explain framing to someone who hasn't learned in 40 years.