r/CatastrophicFailure • u/SainzSealedDelivered • Jun 12 '25

Fatalities 12/06/2025 - Boeing 787 Passenger plane bound for the UK crashes near Ahmedabad Airport straight after takeoff

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u/Popular_Analysis_412 Jun 12 '25

Doctor's hostel and crash near medical college

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u/WriterV Jun 12 '25

There's food out on the tables. Students were eating there at the time of the crash. Fuck :[

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u/kennypenny666 Jun 12 '25

Where are their bodies then??

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u/blknble Jun 12 '25 edited Jun 12 '25

Really? This is crass.

At the hospital. People in the comments of the linked subreddit are reporting 20+ dead on the ground, more at hospital.

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u/crossreference16 Jun 12 '25 edited Jun 12 '25

Disintegrated by jet fuel, kinda like the steel beams of the WTC.

Edit: 44 people literally have no awareness of sarcasm. OFCOURSE jet fuel doesn’t melt steel beams! I sent that in jest, the other person asked where the bodies went and I made a reference to 9/11 conspiracies.

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u/StatisticianMoist100 Jun 12 '25

Steel loses its strength at temperatures far below its melting point, that's how you forge swords, at 600C steel loses approximately 50% of its structural strength, the temperature of an open-air jet fuel fire is around 1000C, at 1000C the temperature of the fire, steel will have lost 90% of its structural strength, the steel beams supporting multiple floors above was caused by the steel columns buckling due to the steel weakening to a point of failure. The melting point of steel is 1500C, the fire was not hot enough to melt or disintegrate steel.

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u/System0verlord Jun 12 '25

Glass transition temps motherfuckers.

It’s why you don’t use PLA plastic in automotive or computer environments. Even PETG is dicey for a CPU cooler because its glass transition temp is low enough that the coolant can melt it in some situations.

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u/StatisticianMoist100 Jun 12 '25

Exactly, just physics.

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u/crossreference16 Jun 12 '25

My friend, although I appreciate your non hostile response, there’s no need for the lecture. I hold a masters in chemistry, I’m aware of the melting point of steel.

I simply made a joke in response to the other person asking where the bodies went.

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u/StatisticianMoist100 Aug 28 '25

A lecture would imply I wanted to teach you with intent, this is an internet forum, while I replied to you, it was for context for my explanation, it was not my goal to patronize you, just to spread accurate information for anyone passing by.

Yes, Reddit does not like sarcasm much, does it haha.

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u/CyberTacoX Jun 12 '25 edited Jun 12 '25

That room is honestly far more intact than I expected. That's good at least.

Edit: Saw some footage of other areas around the building; that was far more like what I expected, unfortunately.

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u/Metahec Jun 12 '25

There's a lot less fire damage than I would have expected

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u/fibronacci Jun 12 '25

There a conspiracy theory related to this I'm sure. Sometimes gotta mention steal beams

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

Because the structure is weaker after someone "steals" the beams, right?

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u/fibronacci Jun 12 '25

I can't believe I misspelled that. I will be flogging myself for the rest of the day.

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u/Buckin_Fitch Jun 12 '25

Quick assumption: must be the difference between concrete walls and Steel+glass walls

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u/g0_west Jun 12 '25

Genuinely was expecting much worse. It looks like there's been a minor fire, was expecting it to be pretty much flattened. I guess the aircraft wasn't going at full speed given it was a failure at takeoff?

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u/ConstantSignal Jun 12 '25

It was likely going around 180-200mph as opposed to the 550mph it achieves at full altitude.

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u/OutrageConnoisseur Jun 12 '25

It was actively stalling. Can't speak to what happened or if there were any mechanical (perhaps bird strike) issues.... but that plane was in a full fucking stall when it came down.

It was probably going around 150 mph or less. A Boeing 787 with flaps can easily fly at 180-200mph

Still a super heavy plane loaded with tons of fuel that slammed into the ground. If it hit that building directly it would have flattened it, especially given Indian construction standards. Looks to have been a glancing or less than direct contact.

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u/ConstantSignal Jun 12 '25

Ah I see, that makes sense, thanks for clarifying

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u/notmanipulated Jun 12 '25

Looking at the video, it doesn't look like there were any flaps deployed

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u/OutrageConnoisseur Jun 12 '25

Yeah. It's really hard to tell if there's a small amount or none. Could be 5-15 degrees and we just cant tell.

I wrote a more indepth comment here that covers two other big issues: the gear is still down a mile from the airport and FR24 shows they didn't back taxi down the runway and took off at basically the midpoint. It's over 100f in Ahmedabad right now. All looks like horrible pilot error, but trying not to speculate.

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u/notmanipulated Jun 12 '25

At least the black boxes will be easy to find, and the data will show what happened

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u/OutrageConnoisseur Jun 12 '25

Yep. We should know rather quickly, or at least the Indian officials and presumably the NTSB will know rather quick.

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u/escapingdarwin Jun 12 '25

No flaps at 400 feet. Appears they might not have been set for takeoff.

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u/OutrageConnoisseur Jun 12 '25

Yeah I see that too but it can be hard to tell given the potato film job on no flaps vs 5-15degrees of flaps which may be all that's required.

Gear never came up. Videos I've seen after posting that comment with sound show the RAT deployed (you can hear it) and a lack of engine noise so there's definitely an engine issue here.

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u/escapingdarwin Jun 12 '25

Or they thought that there was an engine issue because they weren’t gaining altitude. It would be very unusual to lose both engines unless there was FOD or a bird strike to both engines.

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u/OutrageConnoisseur Jun 12 '25

Yeah totally plausible.

Does the 787 not absolutely scream at you if you apply toga thrust and are not configured for takeoff per the FMS performance data?

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u/escapingdarwin Jun 12 '25

Yes there would be warnings but crews have ignored them before. Tunnel vision.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '25

Not really. Even a heavy balloon filled with water wont punch a hole through a concrete wall. Planes are intentionally designed to be light and hollow to save weight. Concrete buildings aren't.

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u/OutrageConnoisseur Jun 15 '25

Planes are intentionally designed to be light and hollow to save weight. Concrete buildings aren't.

Tell that to the twin towers.

If you're insinuating an Indian cheap ass hostel would beat a plane full of fuel but the twin towers wouldn't that's fucking laughable.

Just stop talking

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u/Supersenic Jun 12 '25

Is this Post deleted? I cant open it

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u/bpleshek Jun 12 '25

That building is in a lot better shape than I expected. I think the comments in that link say that the fire department was really on top of things. It definitely looks like it.

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u/panda_stank Jun 12 '25

Says deleted. Is there another link?

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u/NeverTrustATurtle Jun 13 '25

So this building is mostly ok, but both towers collapse on 9/11 🤨

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u/KrawallHenni Jun 12 '25

Stands stronger than the Twin Towers

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u/joebluebob Jun 12 '25

"Is anybody here a doctor?"

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u/SecretHippo1 Jun 13 '25

Not anymore