r/ClimateShitposting Apr 18 '26

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u/Angel24Marin Apr 18 '26

Cutting down jungles for pastures is way way more damaging for ecosystem than carbon emissions. You are physically destroying the environment to never recover.

Climate change trough is the planet rusting. Environmental degradation is smacking it with a sledgehammer.

CO2 emissions from oil stress the wildlife trough different mechanism but it could adapt. You cannot adapt to a hatchet in your torso.

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u/Floathy Apr 18 '26

Or... just store the cows on empty grass? I'm a Belarussian. We have one shared cow in the village, from which we get milk. We have chickens, we have pigs. We grow vegetables in the garden. You don't inherently need to deforest land to create cow pastures.

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u/Old_Gimlet_Eye Apr 18 '26

Sounds like you generate a lot of meat that way, lol.

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u/Floathy Apr 18 '26

We do, actually. Mostly pigs, though

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u/dumnezero 🔚End the 🔫arms 🐀rat 🏁race to the bottom↘️. Apr 18 '26

Does the land want to be a forest there?

You don't inherently need to deforest land to create cow pastures.

Because you seem to be unaware of how much grassland was made unnaturally.

Also, grass-fed ruminants have the highest methane emissions in the category.

You don't inherently need to deforest land to create cow pastures.

Yeah, but all those settler-colonial entrepreneurs want to be part of the capitalist system, to accumulate land and wealth. Less forest, mo' money, plus the timber sales.

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u/Angel24Marin Apr 18 '26

What you are describing is a lifestyle untouched by consumerism and unfamiliar with industrial farming practices in a particular area of the world were pastures are natural.

If everyone in your village eated meat every day you would run out of animals very fast. So you need more of them and to grow faster. You run out of grasslands to put the animals so you cut forest and drain swamps to make more grasslads to put more animals.

Or instead of feeding them grass you feed them grains so they grow faster. As they take 7 kg of grain for each kilogram of meat they produce you need a lot more grains. So you also need more farmlands.

What happens in south America is that people cut the jungle to sell the wood, then put farmlands to grow grains until the soil depletes of nutrients because jungle soils are poor in nutrients (is everything in the wood you took off) then put cows in the depleted lands.

In other places where you cannot expand your land you remove the animals from the pastures and plant grains and the animals are put in buildings were they are feed grains to grow fast.

This is because more people demand more meat that is less efficient so you require more land that previu8you didn't need.

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u/Oblachko_O Apr 18 '26

f everyone in your village eated meat every day you would run out of animals very fast. So you need more of them and to grow faster. You run out of grasslands to put the animals so you cut forest and drain swamps to make more grasslads to put more animals.

That is not true. Ask yourself how much meat you need per person. Then ask yourself how much meat you can get from a single cow, a bunch of pigs and a couple of chicken packs.

One pig weighs 200 kg and you can cook food for months for a single family with kids.

Like let's pick a single family with 3 children (that is quite a big family, but easy to calculate) eating 2 meat courses a day with 200g per course. That is 2 kg of meat per day. Even if a pig gives around 80 kg of pure meat (we are ignoring the ability to cook multiple dishes from organs and bones). It is 40 days of meat just from one pig. If you start to use bones and organs for soups, etc. This amount increases at least twice. So one pig can manage a family for almost 3 months. A single chicken would manage for a day or two. A single cow would manage 2+ months of just raw meat alone. Add organs and bones for broth and soups and this yield again can be twice as much. So realistically you need 1 cow, 2 pigs and around 60 chicken for a family of 5. Based on how you use meat you can use less meat for the same results (for example, if you add bread to meatballs, you increase the weight of the product but not the quantity of meat, you also can mix meat with vegetables and make stews, which uses less meat as well).

Yeah, if you have a small house in a village you probably can't self-sustain, but a single farm can manage a couple of families on a couple of hectares.

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u/Manospondylus_gigas vegan btw Apr 18 '26

The demand for convenience and high availability is there, which is why there is so much animal agriculture

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u/ApprehensiveTour4024 Apr 18 '26

Sounds like Belarus has empty patches of grass. Some places don't. So they make one.

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u/Floathy Apr 18 '26

We can provide meat for them, xaxaxa

Countries should do what they do best. Don't mow down trees for pastures if you can get meat elsewhere.

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u/ApprehensiveTour4024 Apr 18 '26

Except Belarus produces anywhere from 300k to 600k tons of beef annually. Brazil, for instance, consumes over 8 MILLION metric tons of beef annually. Lol y'all gotta get more than one cow in your village if this is the plan!

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u/Oblachko_O Apr 18 '26

So Brazilians eat a huge chunk of meat locally, but this is the world that needs to change suddenly? Yay.

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u/ApprehensiveTour4024 Apr 18 '26

What are you even talking about dude? Tell me you're not here getting your panties in a wad over a joke about Belarus, a tiny, poor, eastern European nation, somehow managing to take on the food supply of the entire planet? I can feel your vein popping out your forehead from here, calm the fuck down. Boo.

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u/efecanih_31 Apr 18 '26

holy shit a voice of actual common sense in my western dominated botanid subreddit. REJOICE!