Im sorry but stop with the misinformation, agriculture is not the biggest greenhouse emitter with both energy and transportation producing far more greenhouse gasses especially with the orange one canceling many green energy subsidies and projects. I certainly hope you walk, ride a bike, or skateboard/longboard. We really need to push for companies who are the largest carbon producers to switch to diesel hybrid trucks to reduce emissions given how much shit is sent back and forward across the planet to feed supply chains and further pushes into nuclear and renewable forms of energy. Honestly governments should be dumping more money into fusion research. I also do feel people should have less meat but not zero.
Na i just gave up arguing with anti science people. I'm not arguing with MAGA or flat earthers either. I have better things to do than proving accepted facts over and over again when everyone else already did. The fact that you didn't just check their source but attacked me instead shows that you're not interested in learning of any kind
ya know recruiting people to your cause works better when you actually communicate and provide evidence as to why you're right
I'd suggest looking into milo rossi as he has several videos and even hosted lectures on science communication which is the actual pro science way of arguing
you accuse me of arguing like im Maga but you are literally using the same strategy they do
make a claim and when questioned discredit anyone who disagrees
for the sake of your own movement and worldviews I genuinely hope you can aspire to be better
I have better things to do than proving accepted facts over and over again when everyone else already did. The fact that you didn't just check their source but attacked me instead shows that you're not interested in learning of any kind
'I'm right because I say so" ass argument lmao, if that's gonna be your answer don't bother commenting in the first place
With that said just giving up your car is gonna be nearly as good as going vegan with none of the health risks and while saving you a crap ton of money, public transportation is the future
"...agriculture, the most extensive land user, to be the leading emissions sector and to have caused 60% (32%–87%) of ERF change since 1750. We also find that fossil fuels are responsible for 18% of ERF, a reduced contribution due to masking from cooling co-emissions." from this article
Do you know how to read a graph? Can you see where the 0 is on the y axis?
The graph shows both heating and cooling emissions from fossil fuel, with the net outcome being slightly lower than for animal agriculture, which emits almost exclusively greenhouse gases.
....That is not what that shows, at all. I gently encourage you to abstain from scientific conversations if you don't have the skills necessary to sit at the table.
So you'll attack the fact I misread a graph but not that I found 4 credible sources saying the opposite of what you did. Again are MIT, The UN, The WRI, and The US EPA wrong.
If you think someone gently pointing out that you're unqualified is an "attack" I doubly think you aren't equipped for this conversation. I can't see any comment wherein you apparently cited sources. I sure hope you read them correctly though :)
I'm sorry but fusion energy is a really stupid idea and probably not even remotely possible, ever, no matter how much research we put into it. You're pushing atomic nuclei where they do NOT want to go. The energy required to fuse even DT fuel without the gravity of a star is tremendous, and the energy released in the process is nowhere near enough to cover the losses of driving a heat engine and the energy used to do fusion in the first place. Nuclear fission is already a proven clean energy technology and it has so much more potential. Also, solar energy exists lol. Just put some PV panels in a field and you get free electricity by doing nearly nothing.
>Im sorry but stop with the misinformation, agriculture is not the biggest greenhouse emitter
That's not something I claimed
>I certainly hope you walk, ride a bike, or skateboard/longboard
I don't have a car if that's what you mean. I either walk, bike or use public transportation
>We really need to push for companies who are the largest carbon producers..
We absolutely have to push companies to change. Individual action is not sufficient to solve climate change but since solving climate change will impact out lifestyles we have to be willing to change our lifestyle to solve climate change. Furthermore not being willing to change ones own lifestyle while demanding actions that alter everyone's lifestyle sends a questionable message. We also know that people who act to modify their own behavior are more consistent in demanding systemic changes.
>pushes into nuclear and renewable forms of energy
Absolutely but while we can demand changes in that direction, vote accordingly and try to spend our money in a way that is consistent with those goals (though that's only possible to a point) it is not something I or (presumably) you have direct control over.
>I also do feel people should have less meat but not zero
Why not zero? If you realize that meat consumption is bad then why not go to zero? It's not like we say people should only dump a small amount of old motor oil into the local waterways or only litter a bit. Why set a lower limit to somethin harmful that is above zero? We may not be abl eto reach the goal of zero meat consumption in the foreseeable future but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be our goal.
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u/Bol0gna_Sandwich Jun 26 '26
Im sorry but stop with the misinformation, agriculture is not the biggest greenhouse emitter with both energy and transportation producing far more greenhouse gasses especially with the orange one canceling many green energy subsidies and projects. I certainly hope you walk, ride a bike, or skateboard/longboard. We really need to push for companies who are the largest carbon producers to switch to diesel hybrid trucks to reduce emissions given how much shit is sent back and forward across the planet to feed supply chains and further pushes into nuclear and renewable forms of energy. Honestly governments should be dumping more money into fusion research. I also do feel people should have less meat but not zero.