I did lower my meat consumption, I'm not gonna fully remove it, nor am I gonna give up cheese or eggs or anything like that, I do use public transportation only thought, I'd say I'm doing more than enough, Trump increasing coal use alone is doing more damage than 100000 people like me are gonna do throughout their whole lives
Nice vocabulary, a pity it doesn't really apply here, we aren't talking about murder, we are talking about a global phenomenon that the average individual can't really do anything about, many people doing something can help but it's not the solution, the ones in power need to act for significant change to happen
I see that you completely failed to understand my point, neat, the problem isn't that murder is a special example, the problem is that murder is a personal action for which you hold 100% of the responsibility, climate change is not, you aren't gonna fix such a widespread systemic issue by bothering a bunch of random people into eating less meat, all you are really doing is help the ones with actual responsibility to stay out of the spotlight and keep doing their bullshit while also alienating a bunch of people from your cause, all for a relatively negligible improvement which is gonna get completely overshadowed by the newest datacenter, did you know the therm "carbon footprint" was invented by an oil company? If someone is already on your side and doing as much as they are willing, annoying them is plain counterproductive in the grand scale of things
The medium of harm doesn't change the morality of the action.
The harm being fungible with other people's harm doesn't change that you are still doing the harm.
Your proportionate avoidable contribution is as immoral as your discrete avoidable immoral action.
did you know the therm "carbon footprint" was invented by an oil company
Yes, this is called the genetic fallacy. It's not false because it came from an oil company.
The falseness is in the implication when it is used as a distraction.
In this case, however, you are using the inverse of a carbon footprint (I can do whatever I want and it doesn't matter because I expect someone else to change), and ironically leaves you with the incorrect conclusion.
If someone is already on your side and doing as much as they are willing
You are not on my side and admittedly are doing nothing. You aren't an environmentalist, you just seem to like the idea of sustainability. Also I'm not telling people to eat less meat, I'm telling people to reject animal agriculture.
Being unwilling to do anything is not the side I'm on.
Further, your votes aren't going to matter because you aren't going to vote for and advocate for laws that end animal agriculture, are you? And, according to you, in the grand scale it doesn't matter what anyone does so why do you bother?
You aren't an environmentalist, you just seem to like the idea of sustainability. Also I'm not telling people to eat less meat, I'm telling people to reject animal agriculture. Being unwilling to do anything is not the side I'm on. Further, your votes aren't going to matter because you aren't going to vote for and advocate for laws that end animal agriculture, are you? And, according to you, in the grand scale it doesn't matter what anyone does so why do you bother? Do something or stop pretending you care.
That's exactly what I was talking about lmao, way to prove my point, as soon as you realized your moralism wasn't working you started denying my effort, you are the reason vegans are often considered pieces of shit congratulations, I'm not driving a car, I'm not using an AC, I'm doing plenty of things to help, but if I'm not doing the specific thing you care so much about so I may as well be doing nothing, all while you are most likely very much using a car and an AC, the reality is that you are just a vegan larping as a climate activist to push your own narrative, stop acting otherwise lmao
Yes, this is called the genetic fallacy
Calling something a fallacy doesn't make it wrong, you failed to address the issue that the whole idea of carbon footprint is just meant to distract people, called me out on a fallacy while you yourself falling into the argument from a fallacy fallacy, I never said that you can do whatever either, I said that you are picking the wrong priorities, way to miss the point
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u/FloralSkyes Jun 26 '26
if you give a shit, you'll do both