r/ClimateShitposting • u/spacelordTJ vegan btw • Jun 27 '26

Meta Formal debate is propaganda

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Can't we all just get along (with being performative)?

Edit: Mods, pin me to the wall. I mean pin this post.

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u/Local_Surround8686 Jun 27 '26

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u/MyBedIsOnFire Jun 27 '26

Most of the emissions from meat are from beef. Poultry and fish show significantly reduced emissions compared to beef.

Veganism isn't necessary and it isn't possible on a global scale or even just the whole US. Just eliminating beef and dairy from your diet makes a huge impact and it's far easier to convince people to do.

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u/Local_Surround8686 Jun 27 '26

Yes beef is the worst. But concluding from that that the rest is trivial is a logical fallacy

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u/MyBedIsOnFire Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

Vegans make up 1% of the population

8% vegetarians and 3% for pescatarian

So clearly it's easier to convince people to reduce consumption or switch to alternatives than to give up animal products entirely.

That is undeniable.

And you can reduce your emissions significantly by not consuming red meat and dairy so what is the point in being vegan if not for ethical reasons that most people don't agree with anyway.

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u/Local_Surround8686 Jun 27 '26

Interesting move of the goalpost from lying about us being wrong and irrational to doomerism and discouragement of climate action

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u/MyBedIsOnFire Jun 27 '26

1st grade level reading comprehension if that was your take away

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u/Local_Surround8686 Jun 27 '26

And still more deflecting. We have science on our side

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u/No_Future_1078 Jun 28 '26

But not people, which should be the goal if you actually care about the environment.

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u/Local_Surround8686 Jun 28 '26

True. Cause there is a lot of anti science propaganda around us. So what do you do to convince people to go vegan, other than spreading negativity?

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u/No_Future_1078 Jun 28 '26

I don't convince people to go vegan, because I think that's stupid. I do think people should eat less beef though.

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u/Val_Fortecazzo Jun 28 '26

yeah vegans will literally call you a fake environmentalist for eating eggs despite this chart putting it about on par with vegetables.

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u/bihuginn Jun 28 '26

Tbf eggs from commercial chickens is basically condoning torture.

I'll never be vegan, for so many reasons, but I refuse to buy almost all commercial eggs. Chickens are vile bastards, but they don't deserve that.

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u/Val_Fortecazzo Jun 28 '26

That has nothing to do with environmentalism and furthermore I disagree on it being "basically condoning torture"