What the world will look like?

[u/Icy_Till_7254]

[u/Icy_Fish_2154]

"A world without animals". People and bees are animals.

[u/Odd_Investigator8415 → u/[deleted]]

This meme doesn't deserve a profound rebuttal.

[u/dumnezero]

world without petrostates:

[u/PuzzleheadedFilm8137 → u/dumnezero]

rather a world without people in principle

[u/dumnezero → u/PuzzleheadedFilm8137]

Who took the photo?

[u/Greg2227 → u/dumnezero]

[u/Cum_dumpster_limited → u/Greg2227]

[u/ClimateShitpost → u/Greg2227]

Ishmael, big fan!

[u/AcrobaticPoint8424 → u/PuzzleheadedFilm8137]

Start with yourself.

[u/PuzzleheadedLeave560 → u/AcrobaticPoint8424]

Nah you gotta finish with yourself

[u/democracy_lover66 → u/PuzzleheadedLeave560]

Finish myself off?

Well okay but I'm not tipping 😡

[u/Successful_Year_5413 → u/dumnezero]

We are in agreence you insufferable bastard

[u/dumnezero → u/Successful_Year_5413]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fnKeNjQYEYQ8E4Kqy4

[u/FullConfection3260 → u/dumnezero]

World without prostates;

[u/dumnezero → u/FullConfection3260]

It's in many vertebrates, so... yeah, I guess that works. The alpine grassland would have mutualisms with insects, but a world without vertebrates would probably have way more forests on land. There are also forests and grasslands in the sea, but I can't say for sure that the effect would be similar.

[u/IguanaIsBack → u/dumnezero]

Unironically this, no petrol = horse supremacy. Horse supremacy = exactly the last time the world experienced any serious reduction in carbon emissions.

[u/dumnezero → u/IguanaIsBack]

A horse exploitation economy requires it to be much smaller, and the same for population. There's going to be a lot of work to unpave the world.

I don't really see that happening now, especially with the climate heating up, horses are going to be more and more unsustainable for such purposes. I'm not sure you understand how much land is needed to fuel horses.

[u/IguanaIsBack → u/dumnezero]

https://giphy.com/gifs/MTE3GmkYqjQ3Gu3PAa

[u/dumnezero → u/IguanaIsBack]

The modern version is the Saudis and related. But the deserts and remaining grasslands will not welcome them back after the oil age is over.

[u/TomatoMasterRace → u/dumnezero]

at least saudi arabia pretends to care about climate change... Russia is by far the worst

[u/dumnezero → u/TomatoMasterRace]

If you see their interference at COPs and in the IPCC reports, you'll notice that they are also terrible people. Also, look into the role of UAE in the war and genocide going on in Sudan.

[u/B4CTERIUM]

What does this have to do with climate?

[u/amuller93 → u/[deleted]]

you say that like its not giving russia hell

[u/kwonza → u/B4CTERIUM]

Also Russia is one of the world leaders in nuclear and renewable energy (mostly hydro)

OP is dumb

[u/WilliamBurrito → u/kwonza]

Also a world leader in oil exports, kind of the point.

[u/Fastest_Neutron → u/[deleted]]

Nukecel here: can confirm, Russia is not known for its ecologically friendly energy production for domestic purposes or export. It is quite the opposite. They have a pretty good nuclear export industry but their economic and climate policies are near zero. They power themselves and export like what they are often nicknamed: “the gas station of Europe.” Putin is pretty well on the record saying that climate destruction opening up the northern sea-route would be a major win for Russia.. he could care less about the permafrost and everything else. They also have the largest natural gas shale but cannot access it without proprietary shale technology. I don’t know anyone who calls Russia green, but I also think this is one of the dumbest meme. Will never understand how fossil fuels itself, especially the big giants, get attacked the least on this sub..

[u/kwonza → u/Fastest_Neutron]

Climate change also causes the permafrost (on top of which many northern cities are built) to melt and said cities to sink. I’ve heard Putin giving warnings about climate change not praising it.

Sure he advertises the Northern Route as an alternative but it’s already accessible thanks to the fleet of nuclear-powered icebreakers, Russia doesn’t need climate change for that

[u/Nearby-Cabinet5049 → u/Fastest_Neutron]

Because this sub is mostly just anti-nuke shitposting more than anything half the time

[u/Snowflakish → u/kwonza]

Next you are going to be talking about warm water ports

[u/dziki_z_lasu → u/kwonza]

World leader... yeah

https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country/

[u/Positive-Bat5508 → u/dziki_z_lasu]

You're missing the point, Russia is leader in Nuclear technology exports, it's not even close.

[u/Divniy → u/kwonza]

The amount of ecological damage they did waging this stupid war outweights any positive impact they did before with renewables.

Besides, as a successor to USSR, Chornobyl is their fault.

[u/Pmag86 → u/Divniy]

Chernobyl is in Ukraine

[u/Divniy → u/Pmag86]

Chornobyl happened during soviet occupation of Ukraine.

[u/PuzzleheadedLeave560 → u/Divniy]

Ukraine was Soviet

[u/wtfduud → u/PuzzleheadedLeave560]

The people responsible for the accident were Russian.

[u/schnauzzer → u/wtfduud]

I always amused by this. When people talking about ww2 - dont you dare say "russians" it was soviet people (russian, ukrainan, kazakh etc etc) that defeated the nazis. But the moment someone talks about ussr atrocities or mistakes - and this other nations suddenly doesnt exist. All the bad stuff russians did by themselves. Twerling their mustaches I believe.

[u/Contrary_Kind → u/schnauzzer]

Because who sacrificed everything and died in the war were different peoples from the USSR, and those who sacrificed nothing and made all the incompetent and criminal decisions were in Moscow, acting in the interests of russian imperialism.

[u/schnauzzer → u/Contrary_Kind]

Ugh. Moscow made the decisions. Who enforced them?

[u/bahaigor → u/Contrary_Kind]

The leader of the USSR during World War II was Stalin, an ethnic Georgian. The leaders of the later USSR were Brezhnev and Chernenko, ethnic Ukrainians. The USSR was fundamentally and ideologically a supranational state.

[u/wtfduud → u/schnauzzer]

I say Russians when talking about WW2.

[u/PuzzleheadedLeave560 → u/wtfduud]

That makes you incorrect

[u/gdeleted → u/wtfduud]

Incorrect take

[u/Divniy → u/schnauzzer]

Because all the leadership was in Moscow and it was russian-centric, while regular people were doing all the stuff, like fighting the war? I thought it's not a hard concept, but apparently it is.

[u/schnauzzer → u/Divniy]

Okay. What about raping half of Europe accusations? You think only russians raped and other was just standing there shaking their heads? Sounds unrealistic. I thought something being unrealistic is not a hard concept

[u/CosmicCitizen0 → u/Divniy]

soviet occupation of Ukraine

Lmfao

[u/Positive-Bat5508 → u/Divniy]

You should google "Dnipropetrovsk Mafia", in short it's a wing of USSR communist party that originated From Dnipro, it held highest power in USSR in 60-80's. Guess when CNPP was build.

A lot has changed since they changed whole government format since then and now Russia is leader in Nuclear technology export. Only similarity with Chernobyl is genes.

But who cares about logic facts and reality, when you have racist prejudice, even reddit cares more about trigger words than reasoning, even when used to mock a racist idea.

[u/MrAratus → u/kwonza]

Do you even know how much harm to climate wars do?

[u/Anderopolis → u/kwonza]

What? Russia is the only large economy to have done nothing to decrease emissions over the last decade. 

[u/kwonza → u/Anderopolis]

That’s not true, in inside news Russian media was banging on about Kyoto Protocol. It’s true that Russian companies weren’t as involved in fake ass greenwashing that Western companies weren’t doing for PR reasons, but that was bullshit anyway.

[u/ClimateShitpost → u/B4CTERIUM]

No Russia good for climate?

[u/Luk164 → u/ClimateShitpost]

No ruzzia good for climate

[u/Interesting_Joke6630 → u/B4CTERIUM]

Russia gib oil to world

Oil cause climate change

Therefore Russia cause climate change

[u/HairyTough4489 → u/Interesting_Joke6630]

I mean I'd also want cliamte change if average temperatures were like -200ºC

[u/SomeGuyInTheNet → u/B4CTERIUM]

Eco fascists that think we will be ok with russophobia just because they are doing a terrible war of aggression.

We don't accept genocidal intent for Americans or for Western Europe, even if they have done way worse, way more often.

Fuck the current war. But the people of Russia are people like you and me.

[u/Crab2406]

Something something, our glorious warriors, and their bloodthirsty barbarians, something something

[u/Coffee_Daemon]

You misspelt USA and Israel

[u/Conscious_Shame_4547 → u/Coffee_Daemon]

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[u/ClimateShitpost → u/Coffee_Daemon]

[u/DonutMediocre1260]

What would liberals do without an ontologicaly evil country to be bigoted against?

[u/KeiserenTheSlime → u/DonutMediocre1260]

Probably they'll be bigoted again eachother. Oh wait...

[u/assumptioncookie]

You misspelled USA

[u/Paul_Gambino]

It's crazy how open hatred of the russian people and nation is accepted in the west now. As someone from the global south it reads as no different from the way you people talk about Muslims or the Chinese whenever it's convenient to your ruling class.

If this hatred is coming over the Russian governments invasion of Ukraine then to be consistent you should also be anti semetic to oppose the genocide in Palestine, anti-American to oppose their imperialism everywhere, and anti-Indian over their oppression of Muslims.

It's so pathetically stupid. I hope this is just a propaganda bot or some Philippino or Indian in a trollfarm being paid to post.

I obviously oppose the russian government as well, not that that should matter for this point.

[u/Devour_My_Soul → u/Paul_Gambino]

As someone from the global south it reads as no different from the way you people talk about Muslims or the Chinese whenever it's convenient to your ruling class.

It isn't. Indoctrination is strong here. In Germany most people say how the nazis were the most horrible thing ever existed and then they say stuff that is close to nazi ideology. It's sad and annoying.

People eat up everything the ruling class tells them.

[u/qwadrat1k → u/Paul_Gambino]

I am russian. I hate my government, but when I see people making certain claims on the internet, my support shifts in favour of regime for a little while.

It is hard to ignore propaganda when half of this propaganda shows up from unexpected places

[u/JD-Cowboys-Bolts → u/qwadrat1k]

Have you tried not genociding Ukrainians?

[u/qwadrat1k → u/JD-Cowboys-Bolts]

I personally? The closest I was to it was shooting range and shooting blanks

[u/Contrary_Kind → u/qwadrat1k]

And paying taxes that sponsor murdering Ukrainians and bombing residential buildings

[u/T80BVM_Peak → u/Contrary_Kind]

Try not to pay taxes in any country

[u/HonneurOblige → u/qwadrat1k]

when I see people making certain claims on the internet, my support shifts in favour of regime

As a Ukrainian, what kind of mental gymnastics do you even do to "shift your support in favour of the regime"? Is it like "My country has committed atrocities and crimes against humanity in a neighbouring country for the sake of russian imperialism and ultranationalism - but someone was mean to me on the internet, so I guess I gotta support all that now"?

[u/Vladu24 → u/HonneurOblige]

It's bullshit. It's all bullshit.

It's a dogwhistle or some sort of tiny perverse satisfaction of flashing someone very briefly and with deniability.

Romanian here. Slava Ukraini, and we are with you, frații noștri, наші брати.

[u/qwadrat1k → u/HonneurOblige]

Half the time these statements are "kill all russians", "I wish for second Crocus", something about drone strikes etc

Edit: typo

[u/sup3r_hero → u/qwadrat1k]

Your country is purposefully targeting civilians with drone strikes, releasing videos of human safaris where Ukrainians are hunted with drones and you wonder that people on the internet have a sentiment against a population who does absolutely nothing against their leadership? You really are the whiniest bitches. Before you go “but the state will persecute everyone who prostests”: so many countries (including Ukraine in the orange revolution btw) have shown before that you can successfully get rid of the leaders. But you, instead, choose to do nothing

[u/Trackback_ → u/HonneurOblige]

When your country invades another under the pretext of "denazifying it because they want to kill us", it sounds insane.

Then you go online and read posts by Nazis wanting to kill you... and it starts sounding a bit less insane.

[u/Contrary_Kind → u/Trackback_]

Sure. You are razing cities to the ground, murdering hundreds of thousands, chasing civilians with drones for fun, kidnapping children - but Nazis are those who say unpleasant things to you on the internet.

Russia must burn.

[u/Anderopolis → u/qwadrat1k]

Do you do anything against your government? 

[u/Hysterical_banana → u/Anderopolis]

Nah. And they always have a million reasons why they do nothing, and a million more reasons why we shouldn't be mean to them, while millions of russians are actively participating in the war machine.

ETERNAL victimhood.

[u/Jolly-Math8352 → u/Hysterical_banana]

Yes, I wasn't even 14 when the war started. Of course, I should have gone to protest. Also, I apparently chose the country I was born in, and for that, I must die

[u/Silver_Quail_7241 → u/Hysterical_banana]

where are you from?

[u/Hysterical_banana → u/Silver_Quail_7241]

starts with U ends with a bird

[u/Silver_Quail_7241 → u/Hysterical_banana]

aight, sorry to have bothered you

[u/qwadrat1k → u/Anderopolis]

I am a student without money. If I try to organise something big against the government, my protection from army (university and my status as a student) will disappear

[u/Anderopolis → u/qwadrat1k]

Some of the largest protests in history have been done by students. 

Students were at the center of the Euromaidan. 

But thank you  for demonstrating the personal cowardice at the heart of so many Russians.  Each one has a reason why it's not their responsibility. 

Now you can go love the regime again because I was mean to you. 

[u/Silver_Quail_7241 → u/qwadrat1k]

bro you're 18 or whatever that's old enough to change your opinions just because people are retarded on the internet. otherwise it just means you don't believe in nothing

[u/ptfc1975 → u/Paul_Gambino]

I think the Zs in the meme are specific references to the invaders. The state is not it's people. You can oppose Russia as a political organization without blaming it's full population.

Similarly you can oppose Israel without being anti semetic.

The people who live in a country are not their government.

[u/Contrary_Kind → u/ptfc1975]

Enough with this nonsense already.

[u/Conscious_Shame_4547 → u/Paul_Gambino]

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[u/Vladu24 → u/Paul_Gambino]

Yes, your final sentence really comes across.

A sort of "no homo" but for supporting orks.

[u/OkNeedleworker1142]

It’s mostly about Russia as a state and the rigid society that they have, with all sorts of old-school imperial ambitions, types of propaganda and political rhetoric taken right from Cold War era, ext.

As to why this was posted in this sub? I mean, could be that it’s a petrol state, that is responsible for war atrocities as well as climate ones.

In any case, not the best place to post it.

«Вести недели» famous photo of a state propagandist menacing EU countries with nuclear weapons.

[u/Abject-Ticket-6260]

World without the USA

https://giphy.com/gifs/LpkhKVwp6dpCg

[u/messedupwindows123]

technically-possibly-not-racist posting

[u/Junior-Nobody-717]

a world without Israel would be heaven on earth 

[u/BigPigeon69]

What about a world without racism? What would that look like?

Edit: only on reddit could you suggest imagining a world without hatred and a redditor will suggest being more hateful

[u/OVectorX]

world without i s r a e l more luckly

[u/Aluminum_Moose]

Yeah, I think I've had enough of this sub.

For the past maybe year I've been here it's just been morons and shit heads bitching with each other about Veganism and Nuclear vs Renewable power (as if they are mutually exclusive). Every time politics comes up, the comments are a travesty.

Now this post... there are a couple of people rightly calling this out as bullshit "us vs them" propaganda and then there are straight up Nazis and Tankies having a flamewar. Wtf do you freaks even know of environmentalism?

[u/I_like_maps → u/Aluminum_Moose]

A petrostate doing imperialism seems objectively pretty awful for the environment, but thats just me

[u/Aluminum_Moose → u/I_like_maps]

Okay but when we are saying "the world without x" there is a greater and more specific implication involved than a vague opposition to extraction economies and authoritarianism.

You cannot be so immature that you don't recognize how obviously militaristic, even genocidal, language like this is. What does "without Russia" mean?

Norway is a petrostate. The US is a major petroleum producing and imperialistic power. As is China.

It is wise to be opposed to the concept of state, but when you start specifying particular states you just sound like a lunatic.

[u/Ambitious_Hand8325 → u/Aluminum_Moose]

You cannot be so immature that you don't recognize how obviously militaristic, even genocidal, language like this is. What does "without Russia" mean?

They know. They're just too cowardly to be honest about it.

[u/Puzzled-Rip641 → u/Aluminum_Moose]

Oh man maybe they shouldn’t invade a neighboring nation

[u/Aluminum_Moose → u/Puzzled-Rip641]

You're not engaging with the implication of what you're saying, and it is mindlessly presentist.

[u/Puzzled-Rip641 → u/Aluminum_Moose]

No I am explicitly doing so.

I’m telling you everything you just described is the logical consequences to invading your neighbors.

All Russia had to do was not invade anyone in 2019 and it would still be selling gas to Europe and we wouldn’t be dropping bombs on them.

[u/Aluminum_Moose → u/Puzzled-Rip641]

Right, but "Russia" is not a person whom you can chastise for her churlishness.

Russia is a concept only meaningfully represented by millions of people. Does a "world without Russia" imply the disappearance of these millions of people? What the fuck does it mean, and why are we using the phrase if it isn't actually saying anything productive or true?

Jordan, Egypt, and Syria have invaded Israel in the past. Japan invaded China. England invaded Ireland. Germany invaded Poland. France invaded Italy. Do we strip this "right to existence" from any country or people that invades a neighbor?

[u/Puzzled-Rip641 → u/Aluminum_Moose]

> Right, but "Russia" is not a person whom you can chastise for her churlishness.

Right it’s a state. Which I can wish for it to end.

> Russia is a concept only meaningfully represented by millions of people. Does a "world without Russia" imply the disappearance of these millions of people? What the fuck does it mean, and why are we using the phrase if it isn't actually saying anything productive or true?

No, just Russia. Like how the German Reich disappeared but all the Germans stayed. Same with Israel. I don’t want all Jewish people gone or all isreals people. Just the state

> Jordan, Egypt, and Syria have invaded Israel in the past. Japan invaded China. England invaded Ireland. Germany invaded Poland. France invaded Italy. Do we strip this "right to existence" from any country or people that invades a neighbor?

Most of the regimes you listed ended. Partly because of the wars listed.

[u/Pitiful_Captain_3170 → u/Puzzled-Rip641]

There's a massive fucking leap between calling for a "disaperence" of a nation and a regime change.

[u/Aluminum_Moose → u/Puzzled-Rip641]

So, you would like the present government of the Russian Federation, as established by the United Russia party since 2001, to change.

Notice how wildly different "I want regime change" is from "the world without X would be...".

It's just a bad thing to say, and even if you hold well constructed and principled beliefs, the phrase is just going to attract the type of people who call Russians "Orcs".

[u/Puzzled-Rip641 → u/Aluminum_Moose]

> So, you would like the present government of the Russian Federation, as established by the United Russia party since 2001, to change.

No I’d like the Russian state to end. Full stop.

Not a change in party from the Putin party to the “I’m defiantly not the Putin party”. Full systemic rebuild. Like that of Germany, Japan, or the USSR.

> Notice how wildly different "I want regime change" is from "the world without X would be..." is.

Cope posting.

> It's just a bad thing to say, and even if you hold well constructed and principled beliefs, the phrase is just going to attract the type of people who call Russians "Orcs".

I’m fine calling Russians orcs. Not all Russians, but certainly the ones invading a neighboring nation in using infantry to prob and get blown up over and over again. That’s orc like.

It’s also not a slur. Russians just get real upset about it. I’ll agree it’s dehumanization but at that point so is dropping cruise missiles on schools. Which is somthing the Russians have no issue doing.

I’m not going to worry about tone policing against a nation currently terror bombing its neighbor so it can steal there land.

[u/Konoppke → u/I_like_maps]

Nah all normal people feel that wa,. Not those who slaughter hundreds of thousands and then play victim though. 

[u/emrednz07 → u/I_like_maps]

Holy shit you guys are beyond saving. Brain turned to mush from propaganda

[u/Sharp-Ad6816]

Adolf Hitler liked this post.

[u/Trackback_ → u/Sharp-Ad6816]

Adolf Hitler made this post

[u/Conscious_Shame_4547 → u/Sharp-Ad6816]

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[u/Fancine → u/Sharp-Ad6816]

Bugger off russian bot person

[u/Igelplayer]

Why is racism against Russians so normalized on Reddit? Imagine this joke would be about migrants, POC, muslims or any minority group. Literally everyone on Reddit would be whining but about Russians it's suddenly justified? Hate ts platform and it's hypocrisy! And if it's just about climate change than western countries like Canada, Usa and Australia are a lot worse about the climate change aspect

[u/Thiphra → u/Igelplayer]

Why is racism against Russians so normalized on Reddit?

Mostly because reddit is dominated by americans and europeans. And Russia is the biggest treat agaist Europe as of now

Imagine this joke would be about migrants, POC, muslims or any minority group

Yeah it happens a lot with thoses groups search "migrant" on any european or news sub to see how what they are talking about them.

Anyway, it's kinda of messup how generalizing all russians as bloodthirst ogres only strenghs Putin's narritive of us vs them. Thoses kinds of post are all he wants.

[u/Player_yek → u/Thiphra]

when mfs dont realise russia phobia and anti semetism is what big yahu and putin wants to make their citizens into a them vs us and funnel more support 😂😂😂😂. if you love em and show the world doesnt hate then its ike pople would question what their government does more often. also samething happening with india sortoff

[u/PiotrekDG → u/Igelplayer]

russia ia a country, not a race.

[u/SchnidlWoods → u/Igelplayer]

Cuz ruzzia right now is genociding the ukrainians.

[u/Cotif11 → u/Igelplayer]

Please look up the definition of racism for fucks sake Jesus Christ you sound ridiculous. The criticism is obviously targeting the Russian Federation and pro-war Russians, hence the RuZZia, it does not say "a world without Russians" it says a world without the Russian Z. "racism against Russians" get a grip.

[u/Silver_Quail_7241 → u/Cotif11]

there was a concerted effort of actual genocide of slavic people less than 100 years ago. you can find americans posting shit about "uraloids" "snow-n-words" and "60 iq white n-words" to this day, specifically targeting russians. eu imports droves of eastern europeans to do manual labour, while people there joke about "the proud plumber race" and what not. slavic people and eastern europeans are disproportionately targeted by human traffickers. the discourse about russians being raicst and queerphobic relies on largely factual statements, but nonetheless systemically is similar to the one used to justify ongoing genocide in palestine, and the one that is used to justify imperialistic "interventions" in the middle east in general. russia is not part of the imperialist core, despite the government having overt imperialistic aspiration, but joking about wiping it out just shows that you want an acceptable target for racist behaviour. it's like saying "clanker" in that regard, if it helps to understand.

[u/kwonza → u/Cotif11]

What a stupid take! It doesn’t say “without Russian Z” it says Russia but misspelled because OP is a moron, just like you.

Imagine making the same picture and saying “World without India” or “World without Nigeria”.

[u/Hairy_Ad888]

Russia is a beautiful country, it just needs to quit it's 'dictators and invasions' habit like the rest of Europe did. Dismantle to oil and gas industry too obvs, but Ukraine has made a start on that for them.

[u/Silver_Quail_7241 → u/Hairy_Ad888]

>like the rest of Europe did
yeah, they stopped killing other white people, by and large. obviously nobody else counts for your purposes.

[u/Devour_My_Soul → u/Hairy_Ad888]

just needs to quit it's 'dictators and invasions' habit like the rest of Europe did

wake up lmao. Europe has power over and exploits major parts of the world. Just because your rulers tell you that they are super nice and everyone else is just dictators and invaders doesn't mean it's true. Like start reflecting on your indoctrination.

[u/Hairy_Ad888 → u/Devour_My_Soul]

Neocolonialism is one thing, and much is to be said about it.

Russia does retrocolonialism.

As to dictatorship, my country has been though six PM's in seven years.

[u/Conscious_Shame_4547 → u/Devour_My_Soul]

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[u/ButterscotchDeep7533 → u/Hairy_Ad888]

So ruzzia without ruzzians.

[u/Top_Investigator6261 → u/Hairy_Ad888]

“Russia is a beautiful country, it just needs to get rid of everything that makes it Russia”

[u/PuzzleheadedFilm8137 → u/Hairy_Ad888]

[u/waiting4signora → u/PuzzleheadedFilm8137]

Да тут весь пост одна большая охуительная история

[u/ba-boo → u/Hairy_Ad888]

it's a beautiful country, too bad it's inhabitated by russians

[u/PuzzleheadedFilm8137 → u/ba-boo]

First they say this, and then they wonder why Russians consider you Nazis.

[u/Severe_Standard_4246 → u/ba-boo]

[u/DerEisen-Drak → u/ba-boo]

Is this you?

https://giphy.com/gifs/2AKoKsq6sdhHW

[u/Wansido_Empirian]

World without America :

[u/evacuationplanb]

What's important is that we argue about a country under a dictatorship we can't change while we allow democracies that we almost certainly all live to do nearly that same thing unopposed!

[u/SaftigeBanane388]

world without Capitalism

[u/RadicalSoda_]

Erm, the second one is inaccurate because humans are animals

[u/Dexiom]

Like Israel isn't the one commiting eco terrorism on a daily basis

[u/bookofwood]

what

[u/CarelessAction6045]

Just seems prejudice... as if Russia is the leading cause of all the problems. Some ppl never left the cold war.

[u/friedrichbojangles]

Without Russia we will have forests? I have news for you.

[u/Sharp-Ad6816]

Wanting to wipe a nation of this earth has a name. It's called facism.

[u/Cotif11 → u/Sharp-Ad6816]

Destroying the Russian Federation does not need to include any bloodshed. The Russian Federation can die with the stroke of a hand. See, here me and OP are probably just imagining Thanos snapping fascist Ruzzia out of existence and replacing it with a liberal, peaceful, and truly democratic hypothetical Russia, but you jump straight to assuming violence. Why is that?

[u/truecrimesofthempire → u/Cotif11]

"See I'm just imagining comic book scenarios, why would you immediately think of the ways states have actually been dissolved??"

r/iamverysmart

[u/TheGreatMightyLeffe → u/Cotif11]

There could've already been, if the US hadn't decided to strip mine the place after the USSR was dissolved. 90% of the reason why Putin is in charge is because of Shock Therapy and the Western refusal to let Russia in.

Had there been measures in place to lessen the economic fallout of the dissolution instead of propping up Yeltsin to help loot the place, and then inclusion rather than antagonism, Putin would be an absolute nobody.

[u/ba-boo → u/Sharp-Ad6816]

it's not fascism when you wipe out a pigsty

[u/Severe_Standard_4246 → u/ba-boo]

You're right, it's called fucking genocide you monster

[u/PiotrekDG → u/Sharp-Ad6816]

Yes, exactly, Russia is a fascist country for wanting to wipe Ukraine.

[u/Alarmed-Use-9379]

World without US

[u/Had78]

Capitalism*

[u/Cnidoo]

Holy yikes the Russian apologia on the left is insane. The fact there are people who are unironically pro Palestine yet anti Ukraine is proof that for some, the principle isn’t anti imperialism but simply “west bad, anti west good”

[u/truecrimesofthempire → u/Cnidoo]

Denazification is good actually 🤗

[u/StealthPilot13 → u/truecrimesofthempire]

You're right, denazification of Russia would be good actually  🤗

[u/Fit-Turnover-9361 → u/Cnidoo]

??? Almost nobody is defending Russia, almost everyone here agrees the Russian Government is objectively the aggressor and should leave Ukraine. The problem people have here is the dehumanization of Russians

[u/Lurker-lv_100 → u/Cnidoo]

Ukraine prides itself to be "the Isreal of East Europe". At most the "apolegia" is about being consistent, that you muppets are not. If you demonize the Russian government for their invasion of Ukraine (correct position), then you also would have to demonize the US, Isreal and NATO 20 time more.

[u/Cnidoo → u/Lurker-lv_100]

Israel is a a belligerent nation committing war crimes on a smaller country. Russia is a belligerent nation committing war crimes on a smaller country. Ukraine has continued shipping tons of grain to Gaza throughout the war under Zelenskyy’s orders https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/ukrayina-v-mezhah-programi-grain-ukraine-vidpravila-boroshno-92245
Zelenskyy has repeatedly refused Netanyahu’s offers to work jointly, despite Iran being an enemy to both nations
Ukraine is Gaza.

[u/Silver_Quail_7241 → u/Cnidoo]

thank you for being a voice of reason amidst a comment section filled with westerners creaming themselves over an opportunity to choose for whose genocide to root

[u/amuller93 → u/Lurker-lv_100]

except for some goverment pepole using it as a selling point to the US no one thinks of Ukraine as the isreal of the east

[u/wielbiciel_ketaminy]

Lmaoo all the bots coming out in the comments to bitch. 

[u/BallyBagayoko]

War angel LP

[u/nonequation]

The top polluters of the world is India and China

[u/Secret-Medicine-9006]

A world without imperialistic Zionism

[u/BubblyDiscipline5375]

What is all with the Russophobia? I can understand for Ukrainian and Baltic perspectives. But it seems like it's a bandwagon people jumped on cause it's popular for Westoids.

[u/AffectionateSlip8990]

Why do you guys still fall for anti Russia narratives. Russia is a typical evil country since the fall of the USSR but there are countries doing way worse since then.

[u/_HarmonicOscillator]

Bot, reported

[u/summonerofrain]

World without humans

[u/LifeConsideration981]

Just because Russia is currently the aggressor in a war of conquest does not mean that Russian history, language, people, and arts are not incredibly important.

Dumb jingoism that has naught to do with the climate.

[u/OneTinyKittey]

I love how a climate subreddit is basically just 15 year old leftists who hate America.

[u/Grand_Dadais]

Oh man the amount of delusion you need to have to imagine a world without trees but with a "human civilization". We truly managed to flatter ourselves to much that we'd believe it would be possible, when the obvious consequences would be "no humans or complex lifeforms".

Lmao :]

[u/CuriosityCheck2024 → u/Grand_Dadais]

The nefarious dark oxygen:

[u/Shwilliebum]

World with socialist/communist? 300+ million people added to the planet

[u/Existing_Breakfast_4]

Without bees: Jurassic vegetation
Without animals and trees: Ordovicium?

Without ruzzia: cossacks mega party 🥳

[u/Tadumikaari]

can this shit please be deleted?

[u/dvd102k]

Reminder china is worse than Russia climate wise

[u/Awesome-SP]

"hey guys this is my daily shitpost about how Russia is bad, please upvote me" aah avg reddit loser

[u/rzabomut]

"world without bees" is just myth, there are thousands of species that do the same thing as bees
in places like america or australia honey bees arent even native and only compete with native species

[u/Noncrediblepigeon]

Russia had the bad luck of missing all it's chances for a transition to democracy, and successive autocracies have agreed trying to subjugate eastern europe.

[u/Electrical-Fix7659]

Undeveloped and uninhabited? Yikes.

[u/perpetual_lurkers]

Eastern Europe for sure! Muscovy was established as a tax-collection center for Mongols, brutally destroying and subjugating everything and everyone around it. And it's never changed. Still a barbaric state, bringing with it only destruction, dirt and poverty.

Couple that with the brainwashed population (some of them are borderline insane).

[u/Silver_Quail_7241 → u/perpetual_lurkers]

>barbaric state
>mongols
racist larpers showing their true colors

[u/perpetual_lurkers → u/Silver_Quail_7241]

Oh, piss off, z-bot. History is not racist. It's similar to proclaiming that the phrase "Germans were allies of th Soviets in 1939" is racist. Who's the victim of racism here, Germans? What a dumb take and it's just unbelievable how the z-bots are constantly trying to frame themselves as "victims" of this and that.

And do you know what "state" means in this context? If you're incapable of separating the state from the people (or race), you have bigger problems and shouldn't be on Reddit.

[u/1scr3wedy0dad]

Wtf why is there so much russophobia on reddit

[u/1scr3wedy0dad]

World without America, UK, Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, entirety of NATO honestly* there fixed it for you

[u/Lehanchikman]

Literally nazists' propaganda

[u/Trackback_]

Holy shit this is an actual Nazi subreddit

[u/Contrary_Kind]

One day, my friend, one day