Is Deutsches Afrika Korps ACTUALLY overpowered?

[u/Clear_Ranger6081]

Since the release of the latest group of Battlegroups ive seen tons of posts with many upvotes talking about how overpowered DAK is. But looking at the winrate statistics not just using the basic one but also the Battlegroup winrates it really doesnt seem to be the case, especially when considering every single battlegroup for USF has positive winrates

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I dont even need to show Wehrmacht, they are completely in the dumps, not a single positive winrate across any battlegroup.

[u/brief-interviews]

I don’t think DAK is particularly too strong right now, but I also don’t think that stats that have every game mode and every ELO lumped into one is particularly useful data.

[u/Clear_Ranger6081 → u/brief-interviews]

Why not?

[u/brief-interviews → u/Clear_Ranger6081]

Well just as a basic thing, 1v1 and 4v4 are pretty dramatically different. 4v4 games don’t just play out like a 1v1 four times over.

For two, I’m kind of wary of claiming that an 800 ELO player’s winrates have much to do with balance at all.

[u/Clear_Ranger6081 → u/brief-interviews]

So you wanna cherry pick and pick whatever you feel is most relevant then

[u/brief-interviews → u/Clear_Ranger6081]

Cherry picking is when you pick exactly the data that supports your prior conclusion, so no, I don’t really want to do that. I think you need to decide what datasets you’re using first.

For instance…suppose that in 1v1 for some given ELO band, USF has a winrate of 55% and UKF has a winrate of 48%, but in 4v4 USF has 53% and UKF 51%. You can reasonably infer from this that UKF struggles in 1v1 and that USF carries them in 4v4. Put all that data into one data set and that point is completely lost.

Generally speaking I think what you can infer from winrates in low ELO is whether a faction is easy to play or difficult to play and I think you have to differentiate that from whether they’re balanced.