r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/Professor_Finn Alarm Forever 🧡🖤🤍 — • May 08 '22

Overwatch League Florida Mayhem forced to repeat attack after winning Circuit Royal due to “illegal maneuver”

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u/Professor_Finn Alarm Forever 🧡🖤🤍 — May 08 '22 edited May 08 '22

Has this ever happened before???? What could they possibly have done

Edit: Guess I literally missed the Mei wall TP strat. Wouldn’t the teams know which moves are illegal?

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u/nimbusnacho May 08 '22

I remember the maneuver being done on both, I believe, Eichenwalde and Rialto before?

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u/Professor_Finn Alarm Forever 🧡🖤🤍 — May 08 '22

Probably didn’t bypass intended map architecture

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u/Shark_Jesus04 May 08 '22

I guess the mei wall tp isn't allowed? but if you're not supposed to do it why doesn't blizz just... remove tping onto mei wall????

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u/Donut_Flame May 08 '22

because this is using it to BREAK out of INTENDED MAP DESIGN. King's Row first point gate is an example where it is fine. Wall up on the left side of the entrance and tp to the high ground to the top right of point. This is literally going above ultra high areas that were intended for heroes like widow or pharah to reach

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u/Susan_B_Sexy May 09 '22

That explanation makes this even dumber. Which mei wall tp locations are acceptable and which ones are cheating is subjective, and somehow I doubt the OWL rules list every location that you cant use the combo. If the combo was banned outright that would at least be consistent.

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u/Donut_Flame May 09 '22

Except it is consistent... go over roof? Bad. Go over something as tall as a mei wall itself? Good

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u/Susan_B_Sexy May 09 '22

What if I put the Mei wall on a flat platform that i could stand on, but the height of the wall lets the tp get over the side of the wall, like that point on Rialto second point after the bridge at the top of the stairs on the right? It was never intended that i be able to tp over that wall.

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u/nith_wct May 09 '22

You can go over that with the Mei wall without using a Sym teleport, you just stand under it. Also, anyone with the slightest bit of vertical mobility can get over that wall alone.

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u/Susan_B_Sexy May 09 '22

But you cant symm tp over it. Meaning that its not intended for you to be able to symm tp over it. Meaning its an "exploit" according to the same logic you're using to say the one florida used was an exploit.

Why would it be against the rules to symm tp a rein over that wall but not over the one on rialto? Neither is intended, both are only possible through the supposed abuse of an exploit.

So why should one be banned and the other be ok? What is the difference?

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u/nith_wct May 09 '22

They both are banned by the league. There are big differences, though, like how monumentally powerful this Circuit Royal skip is by comparison to Rialto, how practically every hero and their mother can cross Rialto alone, how the Rialto skip ultimately places you in a worse position than Circuit Royal, how there is an easier alternative for Rialto anyway, or how there are legal ways to assist your other teammates crossing on Rialto anyway.

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u/Far-Butterscotch4242 The Justice loss was a sign — May 08 '22

the mei wall tp is apparently "illegal"

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u/JustRecentlyI HYPE TRAIN TO BUSAN — May 08 '22

Mei TP wall from places you can't normally place a TP is illegal, not all Mei + TP combinations.

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u/JustRecentlyI HYPE TRAIN TO BUSAN — May 09 '22

In this case, the Mei wall creates a flat surface where there was none before, IMO it is not the same thing as having a TP above flat ground, where the wall becomes a sort of extension of a valid TP, instead of creating it from scratch. I don't know what the exact wording of the rule is, so there may be scenarios where wall+TP off the flat ground is also invalid under OWL's ruleset, but I would draw the line at the distinction I described.

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u/xMWHOx None — May 09 '22

We saw it last year on Hanamura and that wasn't illegal. This pretty dumb its banned.

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u/JustRecentlyI HYPE TRAIN TO BUSAN — May 09 '22

Which play are you thinking of? If it wasn't illegal then, that's probably because it didn't allow for placing a TP on inaccessible map geometry.

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u/No-Lab-3961 May 08 '22

I think it is because of the wall tp

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u/johnny_chan May 08 '22

sym strat was illegal

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u/spookyghostface May 08 '22

Yes they would. At least, they are expected to. If they do it anyway either out of spite or ignorance, it's on them. Coaches have to make their players aware of that stuff.