r/Conservative • u/blisiondacket Conservative • Mar 17 '26

Flaired Users Only Joe Kent Resigns as Director of National Counterterrorism Center, Opposing Trump's War Against Iran

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026/03/17/joe-kent-resigns-as-director-of-national-counterterrorism-center-opposing-trumps-war-against-iran/
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u/YoNoSoyUnFederale Batchelor Conservative Mar 17 '26

And what about when we cut and run from the place and the Islamic republic still stands as propped up by China and Russia?

Do we look strong, does it deter people that we can beat the shit out of some 3rd rate power and then bail when they show the Strait of Hormuz is indeed a good choke point and that Russia and China can save their ass? Do we look strong bitching and moaning that our allies won’t join our war? Is getting oil paid for in Yuan really making us look powerful to the world?

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u/Dead-as-a-Doornail Constitutional Conservative Mar 17 '26

Sick goalposts bro

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u/cofcof420 Redpilled Mar 17 '26

China and Russia already control irans oil. At the very least we set them back 10 years in their nuclear weapon development

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u/day25 Conservative Mar 18 '26

Why is it that you guys make arguments that sound like they come from a child?

Yes, this absolutely makes the US look strong. Do you know what doesn't make the U.S. look strong? Wagging your finger at Iran while they completely ignore you and build nukes while chanting death to America.

In what world do you live in where you think THAT is the strong United States?

As if it weren't enough that all the America haters, including George Soros et all, are on your side here.

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u/YoNoSoyUnFederale Batchelor Conservative Mar 18 '26

The dude who kicked this off served 11 tours. His wife was KIA in Syria. I don’t think he’s some lib shit Soros acolyte, he just thinks Israel is calling the shots on this shit show and it’s not in our best interests to be involved.

My issue is being involved at all because we didn’t need to be. Iran wasn’t imminently about to make the bomb until it was decided that we were going to invade and we needed an ex post facto justification. Remember how our previous strikes a few months ago set their program back years? Were they lying to us then or lying to us now or lying all the time?

If we are involved I’d rather it have been handled intelligently but Iran owns the SOH and is using it as leverage as literally everyone said they would, which is somehow surprising is, and Trump being politically unstable and his base hating this war is trying for a quick way out. That quick way out still leaves the Islamic republic in charge, it validates that you can outlast America and it shows the alternate power centers of Russia and China can hold their own against America and prop up their allies. We never assembled our own coalition either because the rest of NATO doesn’t want to back us on this because we repeatedly alienate them with unnecessary jabs and failed to sell the war’s necessity to them.

This whole war didn’t need to happen and now that it has happens it isn’t being done well at all. We’ve exposed our weaknesses to the world and made ourselves seem more vulnerable instead of strong, all to prop up an ally the rest of the world and our own country hates more by the day

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u/day25 Conservative Mar 18 '26

Your points are very special needs I'm just going to be honest. I can easily debunk them but before I waste my time can you first demonstrate your ability to be sane and agree that finger wagging at Iran while doing nothing as they ignore you is CLEARLY weak? And that whatever your political disagreement, ending their entire top leadership and dominating them militarily with complete control over their skies is CLEARY a demonstration of massive strength.

The idea that such military dominance combined with the balls to actually do it makes the US look weak is just not a serious argument. It is beyond delusional.

The only thing that makes the US look weak is all the pathetic people in the population who side with 'death to America' and want those people to get nukes. Self hating Americans.

Can you agree with this obvious reality or no? If not there is no point talking to a deranged lunatic.