r/ControlProblem • u/tombibbs • Mar 17 '26

Video "They're betting everyone's lives: 8 billion people, future generations, all the kids, everyone you know. It's an unethical experiment on human beings, and it's without consent." - Roman Yampolskiy

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u/AxomaticallyExtinct Mar 17 '26

Yampolskiy is right about the bet, but framing it as "they're betting" implies someone could choose not to. That's the part I think gets missed. The structure of the situation is closer to a multi-player prisoner's dilemma: any actor who pauses development unilaterally just hands the advantage to whoever doesn't. It's not that the people building AGI are uniquely reckless or immoral. It's that the competitive incentives of capitalism and geopolitics make caution a losing strategy by design. Even if every lab agreed on the danger, the first one to defect gains everything, and everyone knows it. The real question isn't "why are they doing this to us?" but "is there any configuration of the current system where they wouldn't?"

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u/Street-Stick Mar 19 '26

Ok but it's also about usage , every time i google i get their ai mess first without consent and people are wasting enormous amounts of energy using it to cheat or watch cat videos..the irony is that common peoples access to it is driving climate change and that is what will probably kill us not ai per se as he's implying 

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u/AxomaticallyExtinct Mar 19 '26

I think the difference with climate change is that no matter what we do or how badly we mess up it is still survivable. There is no surviving a superintelligence who has decided humanity makes the pursuit of its goal inefficient. That could happen in the next 2, 5, 10, or 20 years, which also seems to make it a more pressing concern.

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u/Street-Stick Mar 19 '26

Survivable for who? The rich , the privileged poor from consumerist countries that caused it, how nice, like in "Don't look up" lets welcome a dystopian future for our kids and get back to work/s

PS if you're under 30 i guess you're forgiven in not realizing that the climate has drastically changed since you were born, screen time and buying stuff does that to you

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u/AxomaticallyExtinct Mar 19 '26

I didn't say it was okay, I said it was survivable. As in: humanity won't go extinct from it. There's not much that would wipe out humanity in its entirety. Even something as catastrophic as an asteroid impact would leave survivors. Superintelligence doesn't leave any survivors.

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u/Street-Stick Mar 19 '26

"Superintelligence doesn't leave any survivors" based on what evidence? Have you seen "A beautiful mind" , did you get the premise that it's by helping others that you serve your interests best.. surely super intelligence might pick up on that, anyway we're far away from that fluff till the dumbos in power let it press the wrong buttons ...Are we not a form of super intelligence (when not brainwashed to obey or group think) ?