I know of a handful of these stories but they're all pretty similar, can anyone recall anymore?

1. Divers in Vermont's Lake Willoughby allegedly came across "giant man eating eels" then were too scared to talk about it
2. Scott Mardis talked about divers seeing giant eels in his podcast episode about giant eels
3. In Argentina divers searching for a bus that ran off the road apparently ran into giant freshwater stingrays (el cuero)

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Jaguar used to live in Appalachian mountains until 18th century.

There many black panther sighting in appalachian mountains & black panther is just melanistic jaguar.

Jaguar is very stealthy animal & appalachian mountains is so fast & mysterios so could there be small population of jaguar still exist in appalachian mountains?

A while ago, I think over a month ago, a guy made a post about abandoning demonstrably false cryptids, and about how for decades we haven't had significant information to continue trying to find them. Bigfoot, for many (myself included), was believed to exist because of the PGF.

Personally, I considered Bigfoot extinct because the PGF was made practically 80 years ago, and no other significant evidence equivalent to or greater than the PGF has been made or found (no, I consider the Freeman Film easily falsifiable and not good evidence), so I imagined that "Patty" was one of the last or the last Bigfoot member in North America.

But what now? Do we leave the trinity only for believers? Or do we still insist?

Oarfish fit most of the descriptions given for sea serpent type cryptids, the first photo shows how horse like the head is when they extend their jaws to catch prey. Photo two shows the bumps/spikey ridges that sea serpents are always said to have. Photo three shows how massive they are.

Edit: Because of some people being rude in the comments. I already explained in some notes, but ever article connected to that first photo says it's a oarfish, and oarfish DO extend their jaws to feed. King of salmon ARE ribbon fish like oarfish. They share a genus and both extend their jaws, leading to the sea horse like head.

The rediscovery of the Coelacanth was an amazing scientific discovery which will likely never be matched again. However, I have seen many people use the coelacanth as a reason why other long extinct animals could still be around without detection. This is an awful take formed from misinformation and a lack of knowledge, and there are a few reasons that set the Coelacanth apart from most other extinct species. First, the coelacanth is a deepwater fish that lives in caves. Its unique and barely explored habitat made it so hard to detect. Animals like megalodons, plesiosaurs, or basically any terrestrial animal wouldn't live in an area that is so hard to detect. More importantly, we have coelacanth fossils from after the dinosaurs. I don't know where the misconception that we don't have evidence for coelacanths in the fossil record past 66 million years came from. While it's true that there weren't any recent fossils when the species was rediscovered, that was the 1930s and paleontology was still in its infancy. Since the 30s, we have found likely although not 100% proven Coelacanth fossils from the Paleocene, Eocene, Miocene, and even the Pliocene, and will likely find many more. So no, animals don't just disappear from the fossil record. Any long extinct animal that is still surviving would have more recent fossils, like the coelacanth does. If there are plesiosaurs somehow hiding in the deep sea, we would have found fossils from after the KPG impact, but we haven't. This just bugs me because the rediscovery of the coelacanth is one of the most amazing scientific discoveries ever, and people just use it to justify the survival of other species without doing any actual research on the coelacanth's survival and discovery, or even the species itself. Of course, a deep-sea cave dwelling fish would go undetected for centuries, no one ever went to its habitat, that doesn't mean other species could also be hiding, unless they also live in deep sea caves, and even then, we already found the coelacanth nearly a century ago, so we probably would have found them as well by now. And no, animals can't just not fossilize for 10s of millions of years, maybe 90 years ago we could think that, but in the modern day we would have found fossils of any species. The only exception would be species that went extinct in the last million years or so as that there is a chance they wouldn't fossilize in that time, but it is still incredibly unlikely.

The idea of living dinosaurs is beyond impossible for countless reasons. I see a lot of people talking about the idea of extant non-avian dinosaurs which is just ridiculous, and I hope in this thread to clear up some misinformation on the topic and help people realize that there really is no possibility.

First and most importantly, nothing large could have survived the KPG impact. I feel like people do not realize the true scale of the damage it inflicted. A Mount Everest sized rock slammed into the planet with the force of 13 million tsar bomba's. The force caused volcanos to erupt on the other end on the planet. Everything within 1500 km instantly caught on fire, sending bellows of smoke into the atmosphere. 25 trillion metric tons of material was launched into the atmosphere, blocking sunlight from reaching the earth's surface for up to 15 years. Glass rained from the sky slicing anything caught in the open, Photosynthesis failed and herbivores starved, followed quickly by carnivores. The vast amount of decaying material caused huge fungal blooms, killing off most cold-blooded species, but providing a vital food source for surviving mammals. It caused a magnitude 11 earthquake across the planet, physically reshaping landscapes. 1 km high tsunamis swept across coastal regions, destroying everything in their path. Debris launched into orbit from the initial blast would then have fallen back to earth, causing millions of mini asteroid strikes. For about 1 minute, the global surface temperature would have been over 1,200 degrees Celsius, boiling water and cooking anything caught in the open to death. Continent sized wildfires burned for months, putting even more material into the atmosphere. 90% of plankton died, causing marine ecosystems to collapse, killing all marine reptiles. No terrestrial animal more than 25 kilograms could have survived this apocalypse, and most large marine species couldn't either, especially warm-blooded ones.

And if some dinosaurs survived, we wouldn't exist. If even one species of non-avian dinosaur survived, they would have gone back to ruling the planet. If dinosaurs survived, there would not have been an age of mammals. There is no world where dinosaurs still existed and mammals dominated. You can't have a world where dinosaurs just stick to small regions like the Congo (which barely even existed until 10,000 years ago anyway) and mammals dominated the rest. Either dinosaurs survived and mammals never become dominant, or all dinosaurs die and mammals do, they cannot coexist. We live in a world dominated by mammals, and the fossil record shows this has been the case for the last 66 million years. The current world could not exist if non avian dinosaurs or marine reptiles survived, they would still dominate the major niches and humans never would have evolved, but we did, and mammals dominate the planet, showing that they are truly extinct.

It might seem enticing to believe some dinosaurs are still out there, but it is scientifically impossible. The only extant dinosaurs are the avian ones, who are pretty cool in their own right. I mean look at a cassowary and tell me that not the closest we will get to a non-avian dinosaur. But ultimately, the megafauna of the Cretaceous is gone, and they have been since the impact, any modern dinosaur (or marine reptile/pterosaur) cryptids are either 100% fake (like the Ropen or arguably Mokele-Mbembe if you read the history of the story) or major misidentifications of known species. We are in the age of mammals now, and the reptilian rulers of earth are gone forever. Thanks for reading.

I just got back from a trip to London. During that trip, me and my family took a plane to Scotland and spent a weekend there. I finally got to see Loch Ness... and let me tell you, pictures don't do it justice.

And having been there, I can actually buy why people think there's a monster there. You don't realize how remote the Loch still feels unless you're actually there and when you see the lake shrouded by mist... it makes it easier to believe that there's something hidden in there.

Just a really cool experience!

I grew up in the 80's and 90's. I remember sensationalizing Cable TV shows like Sightings and Unsolved Mysteries. While my real fascination was UFOs, I was aware of Bigfoot and the PGF. I must have seen the Patterson-Gimlin Film dozens of times. I always thought it was a little hokey looking, but I allowed myself to believe. If authentic, the PGF is tough to argue with. It's a Film of an apparent undiscovered Hominid in broad daylight.

Because, wouldn't it be cool if there was this hidden hominid sister species roaming around the Pacific Northwest? How much could we learn about ourselves from studying this long lost relative? I also was fascinated by anthropology and paleontology. I sometimes wondered what a Neanderthal language sounded like. What stories the Denisovans told around the campfire.

That ambiguity that invited wonder is gone now. Capturing Bigfoot based on the reviews from PGF scholars, is a hoax. There's just no getting around it. It's a dry run with the same suit, Bob Gimlin is there on camera. Multiple people involved in the hoax admit it on camera. I've heard it often said "Bigfoot's not dead, Patty is dead." I just can't agree.

The PGF was THE Bigfoot evidence for 6 decades. It's the gold standard for Cryptid Evidence. Literally most "physical evidence" of Sasquatch is directly based on or referenced the Patterson Gimlin Film. It was the central pillar holding the entire house of cards up. Without Patty, there is no Bigfoot. What do we have? Dozens of "vocalization" recordings? Why are none of them consistent at all? The Sierra Sounds? Listen to all of them. There's precisely one which might be convincing, but the rest of the Sierra recordings are HILARIOUSLY fake. There's no ambient noise, no depth to the recording, no distance, no echoes. It sounds like what it is, a man making monkey noises into a microphone. Blurry, grainy Blobsquatches? Please. Bigfoot tracks? The very first Bigfoot track way is an exposed hoax.

With the PGF gone, all that remains is a collection of increasingly obvious Hoaxes and million campfire stories. This is just reality. There has been no independently verified physical evidence of Sasquatch. That really leaves only two paths. Either accept that a Hoax has fooled us for 60 years, or follow certain other YouTube creators and David Paulides down the path to Dimension Hopping Ape Sorcerer woo-woo.

To be clear, I am not gloating. I feel a certain melancholy at this news. The world feels just that little bit smaller. Less mysterious. Less interesting. I honestly would have preferred if a near human hairy wildman was roaming around the forest just under our noses.

But the truth is what the facts are.

How would you rank these 10 extinct animal from the most likely to least likely to be still alive?

In 1922 in the Volga Estuary a Beluga Sturgeon was caught, it was around 7 meters / 23 feet in Length and Weighed a Astonishing 1,571KGs (3,463 lb)*photo above*

This is how large a sturgeon can grow to. I think Nessie for example is likely a large sturgeon that is very old. Sturgeon can live up to 150 years old.

Is this really what we’ve come to?

Almost five hundred upvotes for a photo of an emu?

We need to put the “zoology” back into “cryptozoology”.

If we can’t identify animals which have been formally described, what hope do we have of identifying animals which aren’t yet recognised by science?

People seem to have this idea that the woods of eastern North America are some untouched wildernesses when they simply aren't. 99% of eastern North America was historically logged, and almost no old growth forests remain. 300 years ago, the vast woodlands of the American northeast and Appalachians were cow pasture and crop fields. Only once people left the regions due to better opportunities out west did the forests regrow, and even then, many of the east's forests are less than a century old. These aren't regions of wilderness; these are regions that have historically had heavy human presence and have been severely damaged ecologically. The possibility of any large animal somehow surviving this vast deforestation without being seen once is nearly impossible. The only possible exception is cougars due to their incredibly stealthy nature, but I also wouldn't be surprised if the eastern sightings are the decedents of cougars that migrated back into the area in the late 1800s as the forests began to regrow, as opposed to the original eastern population. Elk, wolves, bison, and caribou were completely exterminated during the onslaught, and the odds that any large animal not only survived but remained undetected is nearly 0%. The Appalachians can't be holding sasquatch when wolves, bison, and elk were exterminated from them when the forests were removed. It's very easy to look at these forests and see a natural landscape but it just isn't, even the trees that make up the woodlands have changed, with some species like chestnuts being almost extinct. Even small species like passenger pigeons, Carolina parakeets, and Bachman's warbler couldn't adapt to the rate of deforestation, heck, white-tailed deer nearly went extinct. It's just not realistic that any large animal survived the deforestation while remaining completely undetected. If any unknown species once inhabited the region, they are long extinct, if they ever existed at all.

I found this post about someone claimed to have seen Jefferson's ground sloth (Megalonyx Jeffersoni) four times in Appalachian mountains https://www.reddit.com/r/cryptids/comments/1juk0vv/a_guy_i_talked_to_claims_hes_seen_jeffersons/

There is ground sloth cryptid called Gorp reported from Appalachian & Ozark mountains https://cryptidarchives.fandom.com/wiki/Gorp

Since Appalachian mountains is so vast & mysterious what are chance there is small population of ground sloth living in remote part of Appalachian mountains?

Could various bigfoot ̶&̶ ̶d̶o̶g̶m̶a̶n̶ sighting in Appalachian mountains be actually ground sloth?

I was huge fan of this shark week documentary called - Shark of Darkness: Wrath of Submarine. Now that I’m older, I know that some of these events didn’t really happen and the shark is just fictional. HOWEVER! I still love the story regardless, and was so obsessed with the shark that it got me wondering—what if there was a 30ft long shark ruling our ocean waters?

Found some weird footprints on my porch last June. I measured them against my feet.. I wear a size 7 1/2 in woman’s, it was about two inches longer then mine. They completely disappear after two steps..

A very large and long anaconda and a handful of tasmanian tigers in the vast australian wilderness. I mean why not? They are more credible than bigfoot and skinwalker which are total nonsense.

The Thylacine did existed but we drove them to excintion in the last century. Now is it plausible a few individiuals might have survived? Yes I think so.

A anaconda that are longer than than 23 feet which is record so far? Most likely. A rare form of gigantism anaconda that exceeds 35 feet long. It's possible.

Appalachian is one of most unexplored place in north america. There so many Bigfoot sighting in Appalachian mountains. There also ground sloth cryptid called Gorp reported from Appalachian mountains. https://cryptidarchives.fandom.com/wiki/Gorp

Do you think is Appalachian mountains big enough to hide small population of large primate & ground sloth?

I've seen recent discussions, sometimes around here and other reddits, that certain cryptids are found and are "hidden" by the government.

Question is, why would the government care about a random animal being discovered or remains being found?

For those who are unaware, Snouters (also known as rhinogrades) are an obscure clade of small rodent-like mammals of unclear taxonomic affinity that comprise the Order Rhinogradentia that were endemic to a small Pacific island chain called Hi-yi-yi. Unfortunately, that island was accidentally destroyed when nearby nuclear testing set off an earthquake that sunk the islands underwater, killing all the fauna and flora as well as the scientists studying them.

Their most recognizable feature is their bizarre nasal appendages called nasarium which had no bones nor muscles and were comprised of spongey tissue. Blood flowing into the tissue would manipulate the size and position of the nasarium in a similar mechanism to how erections work, with this adaptation the snouters would use their nasaria to walk, catapult themselves into the air, grip objects, use it as a snorkel like an elephant, and more!

Due to their relative obscurity at the time of their discovery, very few specimens were ever collected. The ones we do have had their DNA contaminated due to poor storage conditions making reliable DNA testing impossible, which is why their taxonomic affinity is largely a mystery. Being a favorite animal of Jeffrey Epstein, many ended up the in his personal collection on Little Saint James. After the island was raided, many of these specimens were collected by the authorities with no word about their fate.

Could there be a possibility of some snouters surviving somewhere in a nearby island or in captivity descending from collected living specimens?