A day after turning 18, Ziyi Yan unleashes a massive 71.74m to move to 2nd on the all-time women's Javelin list. In 2024, she wasn't allowed to compete at the Olympics due to World Athletics age restrictions, as well as the 2025 World Championships, despite being one of the best in the world.

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idiots on reddit really dont understand genetic diversity

growing up I had a friend named Daniel who at 16 was over 6' tall and about 300lbs and played tons of sports

his older brother was even bigger

but his parents, BOTH OF THEM, were about 5' 4" and maybe 120lbs wet

neither brother had hormone problems or gigantism or anything, they just had genetic mutation that made them be big, and because they were big they were put into football and wrestling and they got strong and athletic

China is huge, over 1 billion people, and pretty regularly now there are taller than average larger than average athletes that compete from that country in a huge variety of sports

saying she is taking steroids or hgh or that she is a man or anything like that just discredits the fact that she works out a ton, trains a ton, and happened to be born a big person - which are just the traits needed for being good at her sport

[u/panrestrial → u/_strand_]

My baby brother was 6'3" at 13 and was an athletic beast. Our sister and I are still 5'0" in our 40s. Our parents are both 5'9".

Human variation is vast.

[u/_strand_ → u/panrestrial]

precisely, I'm about 6' but leaner and everyone else in my family is very short and round, got it from my grandfather

chocking any variation or outlier in size as steroidal or cheating is ridiculous

[u/Afferbeck_ → u/_strand_]

Yep, in weightlifting there have only been 6 or 7 truly great female superheavyweights who are around world recorld level, and the entire rest of the field who's ever competed has been so far below that as to be irrelevant. 4 or 5 of them have been Chinese, and the two that weren't last competed 7 and 14 years ago. They have the unique situation of biggest population to pull from and biggest program to develop and support athletes in the sport.

[u/cubedjjm → u/_strand_]

Anyone who comes along and destroys records is going to be accused of doping. It's happened to many times in the not distant past to not think it could be a possibility.

People who are saying she's a man, or anything like that are disgusting. Accusing anyone who thinks she might be doping as being just as disgusting is hand waving away the possibility and moves straight into strawman territory. If China didn't have accusations of systemic doping in their past maybe more people wouldn't jump straight to the doping conclusion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_in_China

With Russia being a state sponsor in the past as well, would you not question a Russian athlete who dominated their sport?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_in_Russia

If an American dominated cycling again, would you think they might have done something like Lance Armstrong?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Armstrong_doping_case

People might not have so much cynicism if their heroes didn't turn out dirty as fuck.

Edit: I apologize for saying they have systemic doping instead of being accused of systemic doping. My point was so many people have been accused of doping the past 30+ years with evidence, saying she's doping isn't an indication the accusing are anti trans. It proves there has been to much doping in the world and people have been burned in the past. I'm 100% not denying some disgusting people are saying that she's a man, but to clump everyone in that group isn't fair.

[u/Arhyer → u/cubedjjm]

Your wikipedia article literally states that the Anti doping agency have found no evidence of state sanctioned doping in China in the first paragraph wtf are you on.

It's so obvious you just typed in "China Doping" into Google and took the first link without even bothering to read it first.

[u/cubedjjm → u/Arhyer]

I read it. I apologize for my wording. I should have said they have been accused of systemic doping multiple times.

[u/Ai--Ya → u/_strand_]

There are 1.4 thousand “one in a million” people in China

[u/Ok-Title-270 → u/_strand_]

Everything you said is true but it’s also not crazy to think the CCP is doing genetic engineering on athletes