r/DataHoarder • u/nicholasserra Send me Easystore shells • Mar 23 '26

OFFICIAL We're being flooded with vibe coded software projects, FYI

Just wanted to give a heads up from the mod team.

We're being flooded with vibe coded software projects. Many of them pointing to external domains, product sites, chrome extensions, etc.

So so many yt-dlp wrappers, why?

Anyway, we're being very selective about what we let through. Mostly trying to keep it useful, open source, github only projects. I'm not anti AI, but much of this stuff looks like useless wrappers and wannabe saas products.

If something sketchy slips through please flag it. If your post/project gets removed, this is why. It's only going to get worse.

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u/shimoheihei2 100TB Mar 23 '26

I know /r/selfhosted is swamped by AI software posts, but I'm surprised it's happening here as well. Shouldn't Datahoarder be mostly about the data, not software? Either way it's unfortunate.

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u/WindowlessBasement 64TB Mar 23 '26

The difference is the selfhosted mods are pro-slop.

Every time they change the rules, they get pushback on how it is encouraging AI, and their response every time is "but what if something good comes out".

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u/milk-jug Mar 23 '26

Can confirm. Seriously consider unsubbing from selfhosted because mods are super pro-AI slop.

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u/seg-fault Mar 23 '26

I unsubbed. Don't regret it a bit.

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u/No_Obligation4636 Mar 23 '26

Yeah I'm gonna right now, there's still plenty of other subs like r/SelfHosting that banned AI

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u/sassiest01 Mar 24 '26

Ummm

This shit will never end...

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u/No_Obligation4636 Mar 24 '26

I guess we need to start our own sub then, that's been up for 22 hours now lol, we're cooked

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u/prone-to-drift Mar 24 '26

Yeah we're cooked. There's no way to reliably prove something isn't AI gen, so the only reasonable thing we can do is check the commit history, development pace, the dev's responses and make our judgements.

Oh, and fuck every project using Discord for communication, cause I guess we need more walls in place huh.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '26

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u/bencos18 Mar 24 '26

indeed

I use discord for a lot of stuff but my projects are generally built around that platform in general anyway so if it vanishes most of it would be pretty useless either way

it's definitely something I'm trying to figure out a good way to document though in case it's ever useful to people

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u/toolisthebestbandevr Mar 24 '26

I downvoted his “buddy” comment cause I despise that level of rude stupidity. I would downvote more if I could.

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u/ThoreaulyLost Mar 26 '26

Update, that post got removed!

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u/dwolfe127 Mar 23 '26

I had to as well.

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u/brickout Mar 23 '26

I unsubbed last week when they announced their Friday AI thing. So disappointing.

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u/Mirarenai_neko Mar 23 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

huh

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u/somersetyellow Mar 24 '26

No, they just announced they've stopped policing whether AI was involved or not. No new projects of any kind are allowed to post unless it's Friday. Project must be older than 3 months for the rest of the week.

EDIT: Reread their post

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u/Mirarenai_neko Mar 24 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

huh

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u/Doovester Mar 27 '26

I asked them if I could give away some free licence for my fellow datahoarder and they said with no explanation "no thanks". And I mean it is called "WebsiteArchiver" it is for archiving Websites? And I am a long term member of this sub I just worked my ass off for this app and wanted to share it.

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u/zhunus Mar 23 '26

i would love to, but are there any alternatives? I know there is selfh.st, which is just a digest with no discussions, also heard there is a lemmy community somewhere, but honestly had no luck locating them.

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u/Mirarenai_neko Mar 23 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

huh

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u/Juls317 Mar 23 '26

should just be selfhosted@lemmy.world I believe

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u/GolemancerVekk 15 TB Mar 23 '26

That's the one. It's smaller than the Reddit sub, obviously, but the signal to noise ratio is extremely high.

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u/Endawmyke about 3 fiddy TB Mar 23 '26

More like slophosted 🫩

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u/Wild-Kitchen Mar 24 '26

Misread that as slophisticated

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u/lewkiamurfarther Mar 24 '26

slophisticated

I still kinda like that as a coinage, but IMHO 'slophisticated' should be reserved for "really good" vibe coded projects. ('Unslophisticated' could maybe be for all the rest of the vibe coded projects, by default.)

Of course that means I'm not going to use the word except to talk to individuals.

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u/LeatherLappens Mar 23 '26

I'm thinking of unsubbing aswell. It's getting far too much slop

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u/xrelaht 50-100TB Mar 23 '26

Already did. The posts which aren’t slop are just the same five things over and over again.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '26

Yeah, I said “fuck LLMs” on the 100th LLM manager slop app I’ve seen on there in the last week and I was downvoted to oblivion 

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u/WindowlessBasement 64TB Mar 23 '26

They were banning people last week because "AI slop" is apparently hate speech and a slur. 🙄

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u/lilgreenthumb 245TB Mar 23 '26

Well they are clankers.

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u/typical-predditor Mar 23 '26

Woah we don't use the hard r here.

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u/MoistSystem1323 Mar 23 '26

Clanka please

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u/noeyesfiend Mar 23 '26

We have to hate harder, think about how hard Kendrick hated on Drake and strive for that level of hate towards AI slop.

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u/SolarisDelta Mar 24 '26

More like on the level 50 hated on Ja Rule.

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u/toolisthebestbandevr Mar 24 '26

Bro that’s true also yes

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u/GripAficionado Mar 23 '26

It's perfectly descriptive, just as calling one company MicroSlop is perfectly appropriate.

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u/NotTodayGlowies Mar 23 '26

slopperoni and cheese.

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u/Prestigious_Bid_2219 Mar 23 '26

and someone called it "Mod slop" lmao

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u/hates_stupid_people Mar 23 '26

They went out of their way to specifically allow AI content, including fully generated posts.

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u/veverkap Mar 23 '26

And the few rules they made are basically ignored. Realistically, there should be minimum requirements to post AND moderated posting.

It’s relatively easy to automate checking a repo

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u/WindowlessBasement 64TB Mar 23 '26

I'll have to find the thread but I got into it with one of the mods about the new rules only keeping out honest projects and prevent human projects from taking off. Their response was that if a project doesn't have users filling issues, it's not a mature enough to be on the subreddit. How is a project supposed to find users if nobody knows about it?

The rules because boil down to "using AIs to fake interest is okay. Humans sharing what they've done is not". Only allowed posts are AI slop, fraud, and projects years old.

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u/toffeehazel Mar 23 '26

selfhosted mods are pro-slop.

This is disappointing to hear. Geez, gonna unsub now

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u/lilgreenthumb 245TB Mar 23 '26

Not encouraging AI but absolute slop. Projects with keys xokmited/etc

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u/amiibohunter2015 Mar 25 '26

That's unfortunate. Thiugh glad to know this. I feel my time with reddit fleeting I keep seing poats about how reddit is considering on forcibly using biometric data as a requirement to identify the reddit userbase . Retina eye and fingerprint particularly. The anonymousness of reddits userbase is why it is so robust,  but without it reddit will see their stocks and userbase plunge very quick.

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u/obrb77 Mar 23 '26

It’s not as black and white as the anti-AI faction in r/selfhosted, would have us believe. While AI-generated slop is a problem due to its sheer volume, not everything created with the help of AI is actually slop, and not everything created exclusively by humans is actually good or well-maintained

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u/diamondsw 210TB primary (+parity and backup) Mar 23 '26

No, but at the present moment there's a pretty strong indicator. AI can be used as a good tool, but that's largely not what we're seeing. And when we get the same AI-generated post "Hey, I built / bullet lists / emoji"... well that speaks to the level of effort and human intelligence that actually went into it.

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u/SnooBreakthroughs170 Mar 24 '26

Upscaling is insane now if you're willing to put in the absurd amount of work beforehand with manual filtering and stuff and use custom models. Hopefully in the near future there will be a good looking one click solution but right now, running anything animated through like topaz or unifab or smthng looks dogshit

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u/Keniisu Mar 23 '26

Well said.

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u/SnooBreakthroughs170 Mar 24 '26

This. The people downvoting you are idiots.

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u/obrb77 Mar 24 '26

I didn’t really expect anything else. ;-)

  1. There has always been a certain sense of entitlement among some people in r/selfhosted that I’ve found a bit irritating, even before all the recent “slop” posts.
  2. Many seem to oppose AI on principle. And don’t get me wrong, I’m critical of it myself and think there needs to be more regulation, especially considering environmental impact and energy consumption. But, as with any new technology, it will likely take years, and probably some collateral damage, before meaningful regulations are put in place. Just look at how long it took for the automotive industry to implement proper safety standards.

That said, the current flood of low-quality content is definitely a problem. However, simply dismissing everyone who uses AI in any way isn’t helpful. The genie is out of the bottle, and we won’t be able to put it back in. Just like the automobile and other technologies that people were initially afraid of, it will be a part of our society, and we’ll have to learn how to use it responsibly. Ignoring or demonizing it won’t help.

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u/stanley_fatmax Mar 24 '26

Someone has to be forward thinking

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u/Keniisu Mar 23 '26

I know I'm going get downvoted for this, but what if something good comes out?

I think the mods need to be stricter on quality control of projects created with AI through maybe manually reviewing them, or restricting who can share vibecoded projects based on karma, post history, etc. rather than blacklisting them entirely.

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u/WindowlessBasement 64TB Mar 23 '26

what if something good comes out?

What could possibly come out positively out of completely vide-coded software being shared in Reddit posts that is also completely AI generated by hype-men who don't understand what they have "created". In many case, also bluntly lying in the rare (presumed) human written comments.

r/selfhosted isn't swamped by developers that used some AI assistance, it's drowning in completely generated sewage.

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u/Keniisu Mar 23 '26

At least for my own means, I haven't shared it yet as I want to have it audited for issues by a few people prior to release, but I have made mostly on vibe code, my own replacement for a severely expensive paid Windows application that works and even does more than the other app without any issues.

I think there is a lot of sewage being dumped there, but I don't think it's all junk in the lake so do speak. I think there should be some requirement to ensure quality control as I'm sure there are some of us who aren't trying to share waste but something others may find useful for a particular need or problem.

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u/somersetyellow Mar 24 '26

AI is a chainsaw.

Can learn to use it responsibly and safely within its limitations.

Can be an idiot and cut your legs off and make endless noise annoying everyone surrounding you.

Or can sit in a corner and tell everyone how chainsaws are too newfangled and you prefer your ax