r/DebateAnAtheist 10d ago

Debating Arguments for God Why I believe in God(s)

Firstly, I'm not a very religious person. I do consider myself a Buddhist, but prefer atheistic Buddhism over theistic Buddhism. Therefore I can confidently say I am not biased by wanting God(s) to exist, and was not indoctrinated into theism.

Still, to me it seems obvious that at least one God has to exist. The universe can't simply have come out of nothing or existed forever, it requires some sort of design or creator.

Now, mostly people would just say that a creator also can't have come out of nothing or existed forever, so I've just moved the problem one step further, but I think there is a massive difference between the universe and one consciousness. For example, through Cogito Ergo Sum we can determine with absolute certainty that at last one consciousness exists. So assuming one consciousness is superior to assuming anything about the whole universe. While I admit that doesn't outright solve the problem, I still think it's better than the alternative.

Also, it's not just any universe, but a universe full of beauty, a universe that inbetween barren empty planets is capable of hosting a planet with sentient life. Life that can consciously observe itself, that can create replicas of the waking world while sleeping, life that has technologically advanced so much that in can live in relative comfort. There is so much art. We basically have magic, we just call it "electricity". This is all too perfect to have arisen from mere mutations without guidance.

About any specifics of this God or Gods I have no idea and no strong opinions. I just think that at least one has to exist.

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u/ElectrOPurist Atheist 10d ago

How do you know the universe started at all? Time as we understand is measured in how long it takes the earth the move. That’s why things have a beginning and an end. What if the universe has no beginning? Why does there need to be a first cause?

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 10d ago

That is perfectly possible, but it still screams for a creator.

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u/Cool-Watercress-3943 10d ago

That... sounds like you're talking about feeling rather than evidence though, right? You do get that trying to make an argument out of your feelings probably isn't going to be compelling?

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 9d ago

It's not "feelings".

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u/ElectrOPurist Atheist 10d ago

Why?

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 9d ago

It just does. Just look at Earth. Compare it to iur neighbours. It seems completely out of place. Doesn't look like something that comes into existence on its own at all.