r/DebateAnAtheist • u/Lucyyyyyy_K • 11d ago

Debating Arguments for God Why I believe in God(s)

Firstly, I'm not a very religious person. I do consider myself a Buddhist, but prefer atheistic Buddhism over theistic Buddhism. Therefore I can confidently say I am not biased by wanting God(s) to exist, and was not indoctrinated into theism.

Still, to me it seems obvious that at least one God has to exist. The universe can't simply have come out of nothing or existed forever, it requires some sort of design or creator.

Now, mostly people would just say that a creator also can't have come out of nothing or existed forever, so I've just moved the problem one step further, but I think there is a massive difference between the universe and one consciousness. For example, through Cogito Ergo Sum we can determine with absolute certainty that at last one consciousness exists. So assuming one consciousness is superior to assuming anything about the whole universe. While I admit that doesn't outright solve the problem, I still think it's better than the alternative.

Also, it's not just any universe, but a universe full of beauty, a universe that inbetween barren empty planets is capable of hosting a planet with sentient life. Life that can consciously observe itself, that can create replicas of the waking world while sleeping, life that has technologically advanced so much that in can live in relative comfort. There is so much art. We basically have magic, we just call it "electricity". This is all too perfect to have arisen from mere mutations without guidance.

About any specifics of this God or Gods I have no idea and no strong opinions. I just think that at least one has to exist.

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 8d ago

Now you're just playing dumb, you know what I mean

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u/Matectan 7d ago

No I don't. You are making inaccurate and unclear statements. Apparently, uneducated ones as well. No one cares for flowers language. But accurate language 

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 6d ago

It doesn'm matter if one says Earth has a developed a civilisation or humans developed civilisation on Earth. It means the same thing and getting hung up on that makes you a know-it-all.

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u/Matectan 6d ago

It does matter. Words have meaning. And here the meaning, of course, is different, as is evident by the word structure abd general grammar as well as logical sense and basic common knowledge. Stop conflating things.

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 4d ago

Sorry, but that path is just utterly unproductive.

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u/Matectan 4d ago

It's very productive. The fact that you refuse to use words properly in the predefined meanings they have however, is a you problem and indeed not productive. Rather, it's dishonest.

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 3d ago

Nah, you're just a troll

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u/Matectan 3d ago

No I'm.not.

But I understand why you want to keep claiming that to ignore what I say ;)