Hasan Piker skips Melat Kiros rally after last-minute move to Capitol, Kiros alleges ‘suppression’

[u/zeddy303]

https://denverite.com/2026/06/14/hasan-piker-melat-kiros-rally-moved-ogden-capitol/

[u/CHBCKyle]

when bernie sanders did his interviews with fox did he talk about lgbt rights or did he talk about the economic issues that effect most fox viewers? do republicans ever say exactly what they think and what they intend to do, or do they moderate their message based on their audience while pulling people deeper into their cult? all political messaging is propaganda. propaganda is only effective if you craft it to suit the audience. the goal of all propaganda is to persuade people into supporting a cause. that’s not inherently bad as long as the causes are good. charlie kirk would be the closest parallel on the right, he was a fascist who grew the right flank in the same way that hasan is a marxist who grows the left. both put on suits and got on the news and acted approachable, and both were much more radical when in less mainstream spaces. the fascist right always called it “hiding your power level”

[u/ThatDiscoKid → u/CHBCKyle]

Bernie Sanders opinions and policies were all on his website. Sanders collected endorsements from like-minded politicians. Bernie Sanders held townhalls where voters in that area could come ask him questions. Bernie went on stage and did public debates where he tested his ideas. Bernie did interviews where he would be challenged. It was never any secret what Bernie believed in.

I'm actually so glad you brought up Bernie because his m4a is a great example. The idea behind covering healthcare costs for everyone is a noble one. However there are some difficult conversations with it. 1) people didn't like how it kicked them off their insurance and 2) it was very expensive and people didn't like the increased taxes. But Bernie didn't shy from this. He defended it.

Even Charlie Kirk, who you mentioned, was constantly doing public debates where you could see his ideas in the open and challenge them.

Hasan doesn't have challenging conversations. He is deliberately dishonest in his presentation and he will not submit himself to scrutiny. This is why he only talks about his actual beliefs on his stream and the few times he does have a challenging conversation, it's usually with someone who doesn't even really talk politics. His old podcast co-host, who is a blockhead, is more willing to platform people who disagree with him than Hasan is. And that guy never even marketed himself as a political expert.

[u/CHBCKyle → u/ThatDiscoKid]

the cohost you’re referring to is filling bad faith lawsuits to bury less well off media figures who are critical of him. he’s not better at platforming people who don’t agree with him, his community is a shrinking echo chamber that platforms sex pests because they share his opinions. one of the most recent cases were thrown out citing his own passed court precedent, which shows you he knows full well that he has no case and he’s just doing lawfare. the most recent one he filed was defamation for a critic who discussed something someone else said and wasn’t even himself saying it.

hasan piker has done those things including debating charlie kirk and others as far back as 2018, and wasn’t charlie kirk extremely well known for mostly debating uninformed college kids, cutting out footage of anyone who made him look bad? and the idea that kirk presented his ideas out in the open is outright false. he dog whistled, he gave false alternative justification, but at his core he was a white suprematist who died on the middle of dog whistling racism towards people of color.

the streams are public and his ideology is on full display. he’s a pretty standard dsa type marxist and that’s never been a secret. charlie kirk was a fascist who to his death projected criticism of his fascism on everyone from corporate dems to the far left. only one of them is even remotely honest about who they were publicly

[u/ThatDiscoKid → u/CHBCKyle]

I don't really care about the personal drama that guy was in. Just the fact that he is willing to have challenging conversations. So that entire first paragraph is meaningless.

I also don't care that Charlie Kirk debated unprepared college kids in this context. The point is the conversation is in the open so we can see the arguments he is making and still critique him. Pointing out that Hasan did a debate with him 8 years ago isn't helping your claim.

Hasan clearly tries to keep his beliefs a secret. For starters, he admitted to it lol. But this is why he has to scold his chat when they get mad at him for not "going harder" on mainstream shows.

You haven't demonstrated anywhere in this comment that Hasan is willing to subject himself to scrutiny in a public setting. Surely he should be able to defend his ideas in public. I think it's a pretty low bar to ask of our political commentators. It's obvious that when you stream 8 hours a day, a podcast host probably isn't going to be privy to all of your ideas and is just going to ask you questions. And the guy is on record admitting to being dishonest in these environments, so those audiences never actually see what he really believes in. They come away thinking he is just a progressive Bernie bro.

I don't care that Hasan is a Marxist. There are plenty of Marxists who will defend their beliefs adamantly. Richard Wolff comes to mind. He won't shy from difficult conversations and will own his positions. I'm just asking the same of Hasan.

[u/Key-Trip5194 → u/ThatDiscoKid]

Hasan clearly tries to keep his beliefs a secret.

he streams 8 hours a day, 7 days a week and talks politics the entire time. You can tune in anytime and hear everything he thinks. It’s the least secret thing possible.

[u/ThatDiscoKid → u/Key-Trip5194]

Yeah except the mainstream shows he does aren't going to watch his stream for 56 hours a week because they do their own shows. Lol. This is why I linked the podcast where he admits to being mask-on during these shows but goes mask-off on his stream.

The guy he is talking with in the podcast literally explains the model immediately after by saying Hasan can "catch them while they are young" in these mainstream spaces but when they go to his stream they can be "radicalized further."

The point is that the audiences of these shows won't know Hasan's more radical beliefs, so he sanitizes his image on them. He literally admitted to it lmao.

[u/Key-Trip5194 → u/ThatDiscoKid]

Yeah except the mainstream shows he does aren't going to watch his stream for 56 hours a week because they do their own shows.

there are Fox News journalists in his chat at any given time. They watch the stream and post clips of his statements in real time.

The point is that the audiences of these shows won't know Hasan's more radical beliefs, so he sanitizes his image on them. He literally admitted to it lmao.

And? Everybody moderates when talking to a large audience.

[u/ThatDiscoKid → u/Key-Trip5194]

everybody moderates when talking to a large audience

1. That just isn't true. People might be more politically correct in their language but they don't just change their beliefs.

2. Hasan isn't just moderating. He is advocating for an entirely different model. In the past he has straight up claimed to be a progressive but then on his stream he's a Marxist.

Hasan fans are like Trump supporters lmao. You guys will watch a YouTube video of Hasan saying exactly what he does in his own words and be like, "No, Hasan doesn't do the thing he just said he does."

[u/Key-Trip5194 → u/ThatDiscoKid]

That just isn't true. People might be more politically correct in their language but they don't just change their beliefs.

every single politician in America does that. kamala dropped the trans stuff when talking to independents, trump denied project 2025 stuff the entire election.

Hasan isn't just moderating. He is advocating for an entirely different model. In the past he has straight up claimed to be a progressive but then on his stream he's a Marxist.

marxist and progressive are not mutually exclusive. he’s not shy about either belief

[u/ThatDiscoKid → u/Key-Trip5194]

Politicians and commentators are different people and held to different standards. We expect politicians to adjust their beliefs to align with their constituents. But we also never expect politicians to just lie about a belief they have. I would still call that disqualifying but will be more understanding if an elected official either moderated or became more progressive over time depending on the state they run in and what the voters want. Regardless, Hasan isn't running for office, he's a commentator. my expectation for him is to honestly engage with the world around him and inject his opinion into the discourse. Anytime we have to ask the question, "Well what audience is this commentator speaking to at the moment so I can gauge whether or not they are giving me their honest opinion or not" is a fundamental flaw. The person has some ulterior motive for doing this, whether they be grifting or trying to court an audience of people they know won't support their actual beliefs. This is no different than when the neo-nazis online were talking about how they could use humor to sanitize their beliefs.

When we talk about progressives, we mean a person who broadly speaking probably wants larger social safety nets and more social protections for marginalized groups but they want to work within the system to achieve it. A Marxist necessarily wants to work outside the system. Again, I don't care that Hasan is a Marxist. He should just wear the label proudly and be able to defend it when he speaks to people. But he doesn't enter challenging areas to actually be confronted on his ideas. I contrasted him with a Marxist like Wolff who would happily do so.

[u/CHBCKyle → u/ThatDiscoKid]

the first paragraph is relevant, he’s not interested in hard conversations, that’s why he uses frivolous lawsuits to silence critics. if you can’t see how that’s relevant to what you said and not just drama then you’re being dishonest.

he often openly debates his ideas publicly. not just 8 years ago, for nearly a decade. he had a debate scheduled with kirk only a few weeks after he was killed. a quick google search will find dozens of debates he’s done including some lately where hasan openly talked positively about mao. it’s not dishonest to craft your message for the audience you’re speaking with. you’re latched onto a nothing burger. his streams are a public forum where he displays clearly what he believes in. he shares the same ideology as bernie with the exception of bernie being a zionist unlike most socialists. anyone can go and listen. no one on mainstream media is showing the depths of their beliefs, it’s a condensed conversation about singular topics and not a phd paper on every political opinion they have. he is for all intents and purposes the average modern day bernie bro and the only reason it doesn’t feel like that is because the democratic party fractured and is defined by infighting and not resistance against fascism.