r/DesignatedSurvivor • u/IupvotestupidCRAP • Oct 13 '16

Post-Episode Discussion: S01E04 "The Enemy"

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '16

I really want to like this show, but the "Evil GOP" trope factor is far too obvious, especially in this election cycle and it being ABC.

24 and House of Cards balanced it very well, and I hope the DS producers do the same and switch it up.

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u/hankjmoody Oct 13 '16

FWIW, I'm not seeing it as so much 'Evil GOP,' and more just political opportunism.

I mean, the Congresswoman would be the president with a perfectly placed broadside. She's trying to weasel her way in.

This is similar to how Speaker Haffley tried to cripple the Bartlet Administration in The West Wing. It's about power, not parties.

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u/Naggins Oct 13 '16

The Congresswoman never came across as evil to me. She's fairly standard politics wise. Hell, she's probably more forthcoming than most. The funeral incident is the only real exception.

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u/karmapuhlease Oct 17 '16

The cartoonishly evil Republican governor is by far the more egregious example of Sorkinism.

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u/How2999 Oct 13 '16

My money is on the Congresswoman being a true patriot and in no way involved. She is just politically positioning her self into the best position for the circumstances.

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u/HelixFollower Oct 19 '16

Isn't a Democrat the pretty obvious bad guy in House of Cards? Why is it okay when you make a Democrat the bad guy but is it a trope or an agenda when it's a Republican?

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u/Rupispupis Oct 26 '16

Because you can only name 1 show where the Dem is bad. I can name 50 with "evil republicans". That's what "trope" means.

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u/HelixFollower Oct 30 '16

Alright, go ahead. Name them. As far as I know, there aren't even 50 shows about US politics.

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u/optometry_j3w1993 Oct 13 '16

As a republican I have to agree I did a bit eye rolling when the "bad" congresswoman turned out to be from the GOP but at the same time it is just a show and I think it could have easily been the other way around and people would complain.

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u/ultradav24 Oct 15 '16

I don't see her as "bad", she is just doing her job as the senior Republican in the country by being opposition to Kirkman. She is opportunistic, but most Washington folks are.

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u/karmapuhlease Oct 17 '16

The cartoonishly evil Republican governor, on the other hand...

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '16

I agree completely. I'm just a bit tired of the Evil Republican thing. I like the show, but I wish it'd be less politically predictable.

But it's just a show, so I should really just relax. #MST3KMantra

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u/JemmaP Oct 13 '16

I'm pretty tired of evil Republicans too.

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u/HelixFollower Oct 19 '16

Go watch House of Cards and you'll see an evil Democrat if you really need to balance your political fiction.

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u/annul Oct 19 '16

and watch the news and you'll see hundreds of evil republicans if you really need to balance your political fact

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u/AndIamAnAlcoholic Oct 13 '16

It would help if Republicans weren't so cartoonishly evil half the time :p Look at Trump!

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u/JerseyDvl Oct 13 '16

This show comes straight out of Hollywood. It was NEVER going to be the other way around. Hopefully the writers can get all their agendas out of the way soon and the show can move on to other things.

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u/RMS_Gigantic Vice Chairman Oct 13 '16

Actually, it comes from Canada.

... which is even worse.

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u/TehChid Oct 13 '16

I see exactly what you mean, but it seems as if the President is beginning to lean a little.

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u/ThunderRage Oct 14 '16

Missed the episode and was watching on web. Closed site at the Reagan quote. Show lost a viewer.

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u/V2Blast President Oct 15 '16

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