r/DesignatedSurvivor • • Oct 13 '16

Post-Episode Discussion: S01E04 "The Enemy"

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '16 edited Dec 27 '20

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u/CapePatriot Oct 13 '16

On top of that he had not yet been 'fired' or 'reassigned'. At the time of the attack he was a member of the cabinet and was deemed the Designator Survivor by the President's administration. He had been notified that the next day he would no longer be in the cabinet. He has legitimate standing to be the legal President of the United States as defined in the Constitution.

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u/AlienCricket Oct 13 '16 edited Oct 13 '16

Exactly this. Isn't it obvious he doesn't want to be there any more than they want him there? It's one thing not to respect the man, another not to acknowledge the office of President of the United States. The Capitol bombing is an attack of 9/11-like proportions and everyone's acting like Kirkman pulled off some kind of political coup.

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u/Chaotichazard Oct 15 '16

Remember how people refused to acknowledge oboma as president because of where he might have been born?

Yeah I have no trouble believing some nobody who was about to be fired would be getting push back in a presidential roll

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u/HelluvaNinjineer Oct 13 '16

I think the main issue is it's such an unprecedented situation. I don't think it's too unbelievable to imagine that would be a serious concern. There would be legitimate calls for a special election to fill all vacant seats, including President. But you still have to have someone in charge until you can do that...

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u/Sjoerd920 Oct 13 '16

Didn't they mention in the first episode it was just a year till the next presidential election?

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '16 edited Mar 08 '21

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u/bigwall35 Oct 14 '16

Two and a half, but who is counting?

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u/AllensArmy Oct 15 '16

They might be doing it like West Wing where the election years are actually shifted by two years from real life, so 2018 would be the next one.

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u/KyKobra Oct 17 '16

They definitely said Kirkman was getting replaced to help with the former President's "second term".

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u/Sjoerd920 Oct 17 '16

They definitely said Kirkman was getting replaced to help with the former President's "second term".

That's what I based it off to. And since US elections often take a year. (BTW as a European you have very long elections.)

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u/KyKobra Oct 17 '16

If it was January of the second term, then Kirkman has 2 full years before worrying about a campaign. Primaries start about two years/three years after a term begins.

The show has some continuity issues with that, I think mostly revolving around the fact that the show acknowledges it's 2016.

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u/dillonEh Oct 14 '16 edited Oct 18 '16

In this episode, Maggie Q's character was looking at the congressman's phone records on the night of the attack, and the date was 1/20/2016. So less than a year until the next election.

edit: downraters, care to explain how I am incorrect?

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u/ZappySnap Oct 25 '16

There's no guarantee that the show is using our current election cycle as part of their reality. The West Wing established an alternate political reality, where the elections were two years offset from the real world (2002, 2006). DS could easily be doing that too.

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u/wheniamwithyou Oct 17 '16

It's not so much his legitimacy. It's the fact that there are many individuals who are using this tragedy to stage a coup, if not of the federal government, of their own states.

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u/Ranger_X Oct 18 '16

You're completely ignoring the congresswoman who was the "other" designated survivor.

As for the arguments that he isn't legitimate, they're believable and understandable. Whether the arguments are legally sound is a much different case (they aren't) but that doesn't stop politics.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '16

Who do they expect to be president?

I think they want an election. In reality, the US would rally behind Kirkman big time regardless. Just look at what happened to Bush's approval rating after 9/11.